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Old 08-03-2009, 04:20 PM   #1
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Dyno tune or Tom tune?

Hey I have recently aquired an SVT focus and added a few mods. Borla exhaust, Short ram, Billet Throttle body (65mm) and adjustable exhaust cam gear.
Just wondering If I would be better off going with dyno time or getting a Diablo and tune from Tom. I don't plan on many more mods as the car is mostly a driver.

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Thats a tuff question because you have the adj cam gear , do you know if it was ever dynoed and adjusted properly ?

If it wasent for that adj gear I would say go with my tune , I have done so many on the dyno that I can get you really close , a dyno is allways the best way but most shops havent tuned the SVT so even on a dyno you dont allways get the best tune

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it would probably be cheaper and better to get toms tune probably. most dynos around my area charge a flat rate ($300-$400) for the first few hours and then $100 more for each additional hour spent on the car. if the person you take the car to get it dyno tuned doesnt know your type of car well then it will take a long time to get a tune as good as you could get from tom. the only problem with getting toms tune is that he cant adjust that cam gear from 1000 miles away. just just my $.02
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Thanks for the replies...

I replaced the Timing belt, idler pulleys, zero'ed the cams and installed the cam gear today. So it has NOT been on the Dyno yet.

I did play with it some and so far have ended up on 2 degrees retarded. The car throttles much better and pulls harder...But that is still just the seat of the pants Dyno.

Sounds like I'm best suited to go with both. So which should I do first?

Toms tune then the Dyno? Or the Dyno then Toms tune?

The local Shop is supposed to be good with Foci...as a Focus guy directed me to them.

Would toms tune over ride the dyno? Or would the dyno highlight toms tune.

How long do you offer free tune adjustments?
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You can only have one tune or the other. They won't work together.

IMO, if the shop has experience with tuning Foci, I would do it all at once there. Dial in the gear and use their tune. Make sure they have experience with the SVT, not just the base Zetec or a Duratec.

If they don't, tune the gear there and then get a tune from Tom.

I have a local tune and am very happy with it. The tuner has tuned a few Foci including boosted SVT's. I haven't tried a mail tune like Focus Power or Focus Sport so I can't compare.
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I've had great luck with mail order tunes in the past. Although it is possible to construct a driveable tune for the zetec pretty easily with limited knowledge, you'd probably be better off with someone familar with programming the SVT ECU (F-P, FSW, or otherwise). I had a dyno tune on my car and it did WOT okay but was garbage to actually drive on.
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i agree with what was said above. if the local guy is good with tuning foci i would get it all at once there. however if he doesnt really know them that well i would get him to dial in the cam gear and then send a few data logs to tom to see if there is any room for improvement if he is willing to do that.
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Ok guys,
Its crunch time. I need to know if (I have no experience) a dyno tune would address the hanging revs, rough idle and other issues the SVT is known for?
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I have heard good things about your tunes. But, How long did it take you to figure out the revs...etc. Would a good Dyno guy even address those issues?

I'm leaning toward Toms set up..But, the Dyno is just down the street so to speak..I just want / need futher advice...

I have my Cam gear installed and the car runs beautifully. So, now I'm just polishing the edges.

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hanging revs can be a TPS problem and not a tune problem. rough idle might be cleaned up by increasing the idle rpm slightly or perhaps something is just dirty and needs to be changed or cleaned like the MAF or plugs or something like that. i doubt those two problems are related to your tune.

what name adjustable cam gear did u go with? just curious.
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One option would be to get Tom's tune, get it pretty close to perfect by datalogging at home, and then go by the dyno to make a few pulls so Tom can remotely dial it in while you make small cam gear adjustments. It's probably the most expensive option but what is the cost just to use the dyno?
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