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Old 01-15-2012, 08:31 PM   #1
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Help with clutch install:

I just finished installing a new pressure plate, clutch disk, and TOB. Fired up the car and this is what I hear:

This is a 2000 BMW 328i. (not a focus but I know FF can help me out)

Sorry I'm tired when i made the video.

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I'm assuming that this is caused by the TOB. Any opinions would help.

Also I didn't mention that at idle, there is no issue with the vehicle, ONLY when clutch is pressed around 3/4 down.


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Is that a hydraulic tob or an adjustable one.
Does it work? Like will it go into gear ?
When you get to 3/4 travel , does the pedal get hard and stop. Or can you push it to the floor.?
I have heard that sound before. On a Old Fiat. Pressure plate bolts came loose ....
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I agree, something is loose, most likely the pressure plate. I've been around a flywheel coming loose, and it caused a minor vibration, knocking, that you could feel in the pedal. Until it came loose about 5 miles later. I've been around a loose pressure plate also, and it also caused a vibration you could feel in the pedal, but it was very pronounced. The sound was pronounced also- like yours. Ours actually got worse slowly. We were like- WTH is that? Hmm, drive it for a day, it gets worse (as bad as yours), so I removed the transmission again, and this time replaced all the hold-down bolts + blue threadlock, which wasn't recommended, but I figured it wouldn't hurt anything.

Get it quick, or you can break stuff: TOB, slave, scar the flywheel, PP, or finally lose a bolt and really screw up the PP or FD if it gets wedged in there.
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Is that a hydraulic tob or an adjustable one.
Does it work? Like will it go into gear ?
When you get to 3/4 travel , does the pedal get hard and stop. Or can you push it to the floor.?
I have heard that sound before. On a Old Fiat. Pressure plate bolts came loose ....


To be honest, I've never seen this style of TOB, thus it's a BMW. I cannot tell if it doesnt work cause its not allowing to disengage the clutch. Its brand new, it was pre greased and slipped on like a glove onto the Fork. (this TOB just sits ontop of the fork)

at 3/4 travel it does get hard to where it feels like an Evolution Stage 3 clutch (owned one before). Yes i still can push it to the floor but will cause this sound.

Well if it is the pressure plate bolts I need to get on it fast. But im taking a break from it today. 3 days I've worked on it by myself and I'm tired.
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Also this is the reply I got on the E46 forums. Which isn't much help at all.

Its been over 24 hours and only got ONE reply on that forum:

"That sound is NOT a clutch chatter sound. I'm extremely familiar with what clutch chatter sounds like, and that ain't it.

One way or another it's coming back apart. You either put the wrong parts back in it, please recheck all part numbers to make sure. Or those parts are faulty. Last, you made some sort of mistake when reinstalling everything. So like I said, unfortunately you'll be taking it back apart.



Good luck. "


I must also include that the Pilot bearing that was in there was still in very good condition. No binding when spun or and dirt around it.
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Well that sounds like a non hydraulic throw out. Must be some kind of adjustment on it. Now I am thinking the disc may be in backwards. If you can't get the clutch to release. Like u said , either way its gotta come back out. Let us know what you find.
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Alright well Im not going to work on it untill friday night. If i work on it I may just throw some grenades and watch the roof fly.

As far as clutch disc. I did noticed that one side of the clutch had a longer shaft than the other side. I.E one side spline shaft was even with the disc and the other had about 1/4 shaft longer. I installed the longer shaft side toward the pilot bearing side. I may have installed it backwards but I don't know. First BMW clutch im replacing.
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Whoa... I didn't read that until just now, um yeah, the part of the clutch disc that doesn't sit flat is pointed towards the pressure plate, not the flywheel. I hope the clutch disc was available alone because you might find some damage that will prevent you from installing it correctly. Let's hope the flywheel metal was stronger than the clutch disc metal.

There are times when we do repairs where we run into questions like this, and wish we'd have paid more attention when removing X part. That lesson is a hard one to remove because most of the time when you screw it up it's because removing the previous part (like the transmission in this case) was such a PITA that you're really excited to get to the easy part. Nowadays cell phone cameras are a wonderful tool when it comes to disassembling anything and putting it back together like it was. It won't keep you from rearranging pushrods on a non-adjustable valve train engine, but it will keep you from stupid accelerator cable placement types of screw-ups.

Warning flags: 1) "Hell yeah, I got this shit now!" 2) "Boy, this stuff sure is going together easy, I must really know what I'm doing"

Something else, now that you're removing it again, you're probably screwing up by not replacing that pilot bearing. You can rent the tool to pull it, and it's not an expensive, nor difficult part to install. Back in the day when you had to buy the adapter- $115 from Mazda for my RX7- it was expensive, but tool rental saves the day. An unfortunate circumstance is that now there are fewer "good" tools available to those of us who do this stuff more often, but for your typical DIYer- it's golden. That brings me to another warning flag: "Aww, it'll probably be alright" or other phrases with the same meaning.
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