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Old 04-11-2009, 12:58 PM   #1
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ok so i was thinking.. all these people are talking about swaps and v8s but i was wondering since they put a 2.3 turboed motor in the mustang and they also put a 302 and a 351 in the same type of mustang why could we put the 2.3 turboed svo motor and make it rear wheel drive just like the v8 swap but build the svo motor to 500whp and still get the descent gas milage of the 4 cylinder. it should be a straight forward swap shouldnt it? what do you think? anyone done it? or thought about it?


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just converting a fwd to rwd takes lots of time and money! and then swapping tranny's engine mounts, wiring harnesses...ect,ect the list gets plenty long with engine and rwd swaps!
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i know its pretty expensive.. but it wouldnt be any more expensive than a v8 swap and to me a svo mustang drivetrain would be a great swap. im just asking if anyone has done it. and if so how they liked it. also some opinions on whether or not it would be a good swap. i thought about the v8 swap but to me it makes the car entirely to unbalanced. which for all around use whether it be drifting or track use a lighter 4cylinder would be better in the front than a big v8.... plus it would spool up faster and be better on gas. plus be cheaper. you can get a svo mustang alot cheaper than a 5.0.
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I don't think that's the motor I would go for if I were to do a swap. Definitely an intriguing idea though. Do it! Do it!
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agreed, very interesting idea and i would like to see it done but a complete SVO motor will be much more expensive than a 302 because it is much much harder to find. and it still wont be legal to drive on the street. the only kind of swap you could do on a focus and still drive it on the road would be to do swap a SVT 2.0, zetec, or duratec 2.0 or 2.3 from another focus. however there are kits available to mate the stock zetec engine to a mustang tranny thereby converting to RWD. but i think you stilll would have to turn the engine sideways.
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The 2.3T is REALLY HEAVY, and requires premium fuel, unlike the 5.0.

I have an 86 XR4Ti with a 2.3T. It's a WHOLE 'NOTHER ANIMAL. I would do plenty of homework before I got serious about using it in a swap.
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The 2.3T from the SVO is a good, strong motor, but the money for the required swap could be spent building up your zetec/duratec engine for boost. And you wouldn't have to swap ECUs. I think over in Europe they had a swap to make the mk1 a RWD platform...can't remember though...
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Few things:

You cannot find the 2.3 Turbo motor for less than one would find a 302, by a LONG SHOT. The 2.3 Turbo came in the TurboCoupe Thunderbird, The Merkur XR4Ti and the Mustang SVO. To take this motor fro ma junkyard expect to pay anywhere from $500 -$1300 without the tranny. You could easily find a 302 in a junkyard and snag it for $250 as I have done many times.

A conversion from fwd to rwd is painstaking. Alot of money and time would need to be dumped into it. So it would'nt wise to be on tight budget.

Adding a V8 into a Focus WILL NOT make the car unbalanced. This is one of the most misunderstood facts about engine swaps. Once you add a big heavy V8 you will SHIFT balance, not lose. If you do a swap correctly and calculate the best place for the Engine mounts to sit, the car will ride perfectly and steer great. Realizing the tranny will now be in the middle of the car will further aid stabilization. One only think of all the weight on the front of a V8 Focus, but the tranny is in the middle and the hefty 8.8 rear end is in the REAR, not to mention the modified gas sump will be raised, and the elimination of front suspension pieces and the addition of rear suspension pieces will keep the car feeling good.

One final thing 4 bangers do not get better gas mileage than a V8 at anywhere near 500whp range. With less- Gas, throttle, torque, intertia, spark, needed to produce 500 hp in a V8 it will undoubtedly get better mileage. A 4 banger will need twice as much of the above mentioned things to create the same power, there fore decreasing it's driveability.

Everything I have mentioned, I know from experience.
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One final thing 4 bangers do not get better gas mileage than a V8 at anywhere near 500whp range. With less- Gas, throttle, torque, intertia, spark, needed to produce 500 hp in a V8 it will undoubtedly get better mileage. A 4 banger will need twice as much of the above mentioned things to create the same power, there fore decreasing it's driveability.
I disagree with this statement entirely. you see when you are running turbo you are not always producing that kind of power only when you want it. i have a 370whp ford focus that can still get in excess of 30mpg you show me any v8 at any power that gets 30mpg. i do agree that when im running 370whp im using gas like its going out of style but that is the point to putting a smaller motor so i dont always have to be running that kind of power which in turn makes it more fuel efficient. and about the cost of conversion an svo mustang is cheaper to buy than a 5.0 mustang due to everybody wanting a 5.0. i was thinking in terms of buying the whole car and using what i could off of it. i would love to take my motor and turn it sideways due to i know what my motor does and how it runs and i already have it but i havent seen any conversion kits for that. the reason i was thinking of the svo is it is in the same car that the 302 comes in and they make all kinds of v8 conversion kits. but it would be better on gas and put out a good amount of power to really make your car move.
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One final thing 4 bangers do not get better gas mileage than a V8 at anywhere near 500whp range. With less- Gas, throttle, torque, intertia, spark, needed to produce 500 hp in a V8 it will undoubtedly get better mileage. A 4 banger will need twice as much of the above mentioned things to create the same power, there fore decreasing it's driveability.
I disagree with this statement entirely. you see when you are running turbo you are not always producing that kind of power only when you want it. i have a 370whp ford focus that can still get in excess of 30mpg you show me any v8 at any power that gets 30mpg. i do agree that when im running 370whp im using gas like its going out of style but that is the point to putting a smaller motor so i dont always have to be running that kind of power which in turn makes it more fuel efficient. and about the cost of conversion an svo mustang is cheaper to buy than a 5.0 mustang due to everybody wanting a 5.0. i was thinking in terms of buying the whole car and using what i could off of it. i would love to take my motor and turn it sideways due to i know what my motor does and how it runs and i already have it but i havent seen any conversion kits for that. the reason i was thinking of the svo is it is in the same car that the 302 comes in and they make all kinds of v8 conversion kits. but it would be better on gas and put out a good amount of power to really make your car move.
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