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Old 03-18-2009, 08:44 PM   #1
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no fuel and no spark

hi to everybody out there my name in nate,
i put a motor in a 01 zx3 which is the zetec 2.0l 5spd. everything went great untill i went to start it... i have power to the coil and power to the injectors but it just cranks... i checked every plug connector, wire, vaccuum hose 100 times. so i hook up a scanner to it and pulled 4 codes, p1288, p1124, p1709, p0320. so i changed the crank sensor but nothing, just cranks. i had the scanner plugged into the car and tried to start it and it actually shut off the scanner when in cranking position. so all i can think is that there is a short in the pcm, ignition switch, or something that is killing the power so it doesn't start. i pulled the plugs out and they where dry, i even grounded them to see spark when cranking and nothing, there new plugs and i swapped wires, a coil, cam sensor, crank sensor, throttle position sensor and even the injector intake harness but nothing. anybody out there have any idea on what could be the problem? anything will help, thanks, Nate


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Old 03-19-2009, 04:14 AM   #2
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i would double check your grounds and double check all the wires that connect to the battery posts. An unplugged crank sensor on my jeep pretty much disabled everything under the hood ...another option to check
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something with the crank sensors is different from automatic to manual. Did you use your old one?
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Old 03-19-2009, 01:53 PM   #4
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the crank position sensor mount is different. If you used an engine from an automatic, you could have overlooked this.

Sadly, if that is the problem, the only remedy is to remove the trans and flywheel and put the correct mount in...

its going to be hard to tell which you have in there without actually having seen the difference.

Pull the one off your old engine and compare the two mounts. Check how far the sensor is sticking out from the bellhousing surface.
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Old 03-19-2009, 03:07 PM   #5
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man i had a funny feeling that the crank sensor was the problem.... i used the one that was on the motor and i bought one and changed it... i guess its not puicking up the flywheel.... i put a screw driver in to touch the flywheel and it seemed like it wasn't touching the round cut outs for it to read... is there anything i can do to correct that or am i going to have to pull the motor and get a different one? thanks for all the help so far
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well what i ment was is there a way to fix this without pulling the trans out? is there and little trick where i can make this crank sensor work... the motor came with one in it and yes it was out of an auto, and i replaced it with another one and it was the same exact sensor... i guess the hole for it is in a slightly different location.... maybe over to a side to far to read the flywheel. im i understanding that right? thanks, nate
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The sensor itself is not the problem. The problem is the mount.

You dont want the sensor to actually touch the flywheel, that would break it... its an inductive pickup.

Its slightly closer to the flywheel for one of them. Forgot which is which.
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i pretty much have it out and i see what you mean and in the book it shows one for a standard trans and it looks different. to bad i didnt see it before i put the motor in... thanks alot. when im done ill post it and give mad props my man. thanks alot, i would of been messing with this thing forever, thanks, nate
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no problem... ive done this diagnosis a few times...
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Old 03-20-2009, 06:46 PM   #10
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what a pain but i got it and that was the problem.... thanks alot for your help, Nate
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