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Old 03-06-2014, 02:20 AM   #71
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You have a circle with a diameter of 3" and one with a diameter of 4".
What is the total air pressure exerted on each?
The total air pressure exerted on a 3" dia. circle and a 4" dia. circle would be the same given they are at the same atmospheric pressure. Where you are asking about air pressure on an area at least. Now, if we are talking about hydrostatic pressures and the increase or drop in pressure between two different diameters of pipe (cylinder), that is a different calculation all together.....
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I probably worded it wrong. Though I don't believe I did.

Think about air pressure more, you might be onto something ...
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If you not not going to give help or opinions, why are you even posting?
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my tb will be in a 4:30 today ohio time im going to try to install today and give my thoughts tonight or tomorrow. i dont even know any place i could dyno at in ohio im sure there are some in columbus i could get to but ill try to have all numbers of everything as soon as i can so everyone can see whats going on with my end of things. trying to help as much as i can should have things posted in a week or as fast as i can get a dyno with list of all my mods.
how much was the throttle body and do you have an intake to go with the throttle body?
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More pressure=less volume, people.

Though my point doesn't change. When the volume the tb is capable of providing already exceeds the amount of air needed you're not going to gain anything.
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The total air pressure exerted on a 3" dia. circle and a 4" dia. circle would be the same given they are at the same atmospheric pressure. Where you are asking about air pressure on an area at least. Now, if we are talking about hydrostatic pressures and the increase or drop in pressure between two different diameters of pipe (cylinder), that is a different calculation all together.....
Unfortunately unless you have a baseline at almost identical conditions with the stock TB having your car dyno'd with the new TB will be pointless with respect to gains(or losses for that matter)
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I was trying to teach you something rather than feeding you. I've never found feeding to work well or stick.


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More pressure=less volume, people.
You're missing variables and therefore incorrect.

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Air Pressure.
We refer to it in terms of Pounds per Square Inch. That is how much force is exerted on a surface. One square inch of surface has ~14.7 Pounds of (downward) force on it.
If you apply that to my question,
a 3" diameter has,
Pi*R^2 area, 3.14*1.5^2 = 7.065 square inches, 7.065*14.7 = 103.8555 pounds of force
a 4" diameter has,
Pi*R^2 area, 3.14*2^2 = 12.56 square inches, 12.56*14.7 = 184.632 pounds of force


Understand how an increase in diameter translates into more flow?
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And you have a complete misunderstanding of fluid dynamics and how they come into play in a restriction

That's static air pressure(at sea level), and has nothing to do with velocity or volume. Not sure where you're even going with that? If you take a throttle body and reduce the size you will lower pressure IN the restriction, increase velocity in the restriction, and decrease the maximum amount of air that restriction is capable of flowing in whatever measurement you decide to use. Should you increase the size of the restriction you will DECREASE PRESSURE in the restriction AND DECREASE VELOCITY, and INCREASE VOLUME. Smaller opening=higher velocities. Higher velocities=lower volume.

So yes. a larger opening will increase volume, but pressure isn't involved in the way you think it is.

A larger TB on an FI car will net you good gains because it produces WAY more suction than an NA motor.

edit: reworded. Content the same
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just post dyno numbers and end all of this argueing!!
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