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Old 07-31-2012, 06:06 PM   #11
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MD2009 thanx & thats no problem. We are all here to learn & improve or mod. Thanx again huh.
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Anybody using a FL842 filter on their D-tech's? Just looking for a bigger filter, I'm already using a FL400 for a little while now. Since I'm on oil filters, Anybody tried the bosch filter?
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I am the tech manager at FRAM. A couple things- First of all, if you use the wrong filter for your car, no filter company will warranty the engine if a problem comes up. They will simply say, wrong filter installed. Now, if you carefully match the thread size, antidrainback valve, relief valve setting and location of the o ring, you can do this. If you look at our catalog online, it lists all specs including can size, ADB, Relief valve setting pressure and location of o ring. Takes alot of research for very little gain. The best thing to do is use the best filter. Like FRAM Ultra, a 99% efficiency filter with 15k capacity. There are other top quality filters from other brands as well. Look for 99% efficiency rated using the ISO 4548-12 test, should say that right on the box.
We have video on our website that explains all the testing and what these terms mean if you want to learn more.
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I am the tech manager at FRAM. A couple things- First of all, if you use the wrong filter for your car, no filter company will warranty the engine if a problem comes up. They will simply say, wrong filter installed. Now, if you carefully match the thread size, antidrainback valve, relief valve setting and location of the o ring, you can do this. If you look at our catalog online, it lists all specs including can size, ADB, Relief valve setting pressure and location of o ring. Takes alot of research for very little gain. The best thing to do is use the best filter. Like FRAM Ultra, a 99% efficiency filter with 15k capacity. There are other top quality filters from other brands as well. Look for 99% efficiency rated using the ISO 4548-12 test, should say that right on the box.
We have video on our website that explains all the testing and what these terms mean if you want to learn more.
Good information. I will give the fram ultra a try next swap!
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^^^x2 on that. Got any part numbers we should be looking for?
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I just installed a FL842 filter= shorter than a 400, but a tad bit longer than a 910 & bigger diameter. Fram ultra guardis that the best Fram filter? & what part # inter changes w/ FL842?
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I just installed a FL842 filter= shorter than a 400, but a tad bit longer than a 910 & bigger diameter. Fram ultra guardis that the best Fram filter? & what part # inter changes w/ FL842?
So the 842 worked?

I figured it would based on specs... glad to know that the book and the real world agreed for once.
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So the 842 worked?

I figured it would based on specs... glad to know that the book and the real world agreed for once.
Thats where quicklane where I work for now comes in= I can grab a filter & try it on different cars. I tried a 842 on a focus yesterday on a car & it fit great, so I put one one my car. Now which filter brand is next. I've been using FL400's for a few yrs now. I heard its not a great idea to have a horizon filter adpater= find one at Burton power over in the UK. Seems like they have a lot of parts for D-tech motors
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You guys do know that as a filter gets clogged with junk, the flow through the filter diminishes. That translates to less oil flowing through your engine at high rpms or thight turns. #1 cause of engine failure (spinning a bearing) is not the stuff in the oil but rather lack of flow of the oil. You're best bet is to just change the oil more often, using plus gas instead of regular and make sure your pcv system is functioning properly.
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You guys do know that as a filter gets clogged with junk, the flow through the filter diminishes. That translates to less oil flowing through your engine at high rpms or thight turns. #1 cause of engine failure (spinning a bearing) is not the stuff in the oil but rather lack of flow of the oil. You're best bet is to just change the oil more often, using plus gas instead of regular and make sure your pcv system is functioning properly.
I'm well a where of that^^^^. I change my oil 4-5000 miles & use Mobil 1 since new. I have been using FL400's for a little while now= a couple of yrs now. I was looking for a bigger diameter filter that'd work on D-techs= hence the FL842= shorter than a 400 & bigger diameter. I also have a BSD plug w/ a windage tray= holds 6qtrs of oil now & gets rid of 14lbs of rotational weight & 18 lbs of dead weight too.
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You guys do know that as a filter gets clogged with junk, the flow through the filter diminishes. That translates to less oil flowing through your engine at high rpms or thight turns. #1 cause of engine failure (spinning a bearing) is not the stuff in the oil but rather lack of flow of the oil. You're best bet is to just change the oil more often, using plus gas instead of regular and make sure your pcv system is functioning properly.
Most engines have a filter bypass valve for high rpm and clogged filter situations... Or, the filter itself may have a bypass for cold start situations, high rpm, or clogged.

the boy-racers of the world that feel to need to hit redline every shift are usually bypassing most of the filter material, even if it is a brand new filter.

Increased media by using a larger filter is part of the reason for wanting to explore additional options. Adding a large secondary filter, especially something that filters well below what a normal filter is capable of filter will only help promote longer engine life and longer OCIs. The obvious issue is that a filter that has a micron rating of 1 or 2 does not flow as well as a filter with a 15-20 rating... and cannot be used as a full flow. Hence, the invention of the bypass filter system.

Bypass Filter Install on 09

Again, a proper oil analysis including a particle count will let you know how well the filters are working, and the condition of the oil as far as fuel dilution, shearing, flash point, etc. Anything less is opinion. Nothing more.
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