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Old 02-17-2013, 07:03 PM   #21
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Probably not a good idea to introduce brake fluids to someone using YouTube to do brakes. Just saying?
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Probably not a good idea to introduce brake fluids to someone using YouTube to do brakes. Just saying?
Probably right. Just wanted to make sure that people are aware that their is a difference in DOT 5 and DOT 5.1. DOT 5 CAN NOT be mixed, where DOT 5.1 claim to have the same performance as DOT 5 but being the different base is mixable with DOT 4 and DOT 3.

Rear drums are a PITA. I attempted to "replace" my drums and shoes but ended up getting so frustrated at trying to get the rust and spindle apart that I decided to chuck the whole thing and go with a rear disc brake kit from an old SVT.

It will likely be the same story for you..

Best way to do it is to just unbolt the 4 spindle bolts off the back and pull the whole spindle, bearing and drum off. clean things up (no need to take apart) use proper respiratory gear and use compress air to blow out the dust. Put anti-brake squeal or anti-seize for brakes on the moving parts and spring hook areas.

Not sure if this is still done or recommended but you could use a bit of some 300-400 grit sand paper to slightly remove any glaze that may have occurred on the drum. Also along the shoe???

While your in there you can check the parking brake spring and make sure you have it adjusted correctly.

The other option is to go to a place like pep-boys that has life time warranties on brakes and have them just do it.... rear drums on the focus will last for a long time, over 150k on my stock rear drums and still had a lot of shoe left.
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Probably not a good idea to introduce brake fluids to someone using YouTube to do brakes. Just saying?
Do I detect a note of condescention? We all gotta start somewhere man. Do you have a suggestion for an alternate source of learning material?



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Probably right. Just wanted to make sure that people are aware that their is a difference in DOT 5 and DOT 5.1. DOT 5 CAN NOT be mixed, where DOT 5.1 claim to have the same performance as DOT 5 but being the different base is mixable with DOT 4 and DOT 3.

Rear drums are a PITA. I attempted to "replace" my drums and shoes but ended up getting so frustrated at trying to get the rust and spindle apart that I decided to chuck the whole thing and go with a rear disc brake kit from an old SVT.

It will likely be the same story for you..

Best way to do it is to just unbolt the 4 spindle bolts off the back and pull the whole spindle, bearing and drum off. clean things up (no need to take apart) use proper respiratory gear and use compress air to blow out the dust. Put anti-brake squeal or anti-seize for brakes on the moving parts and spring hook areas.

Not sure if this is still done or recommended but you could use a bit of some 300-400 grit sand paper to slightly remove any glaze that may have occurred on the drum. Also along the shoe???

While your in there you can check the parking brake spring and make sure you have it adjusted correctly.

The other option is to go to a place like pep-boys that has life time warranties on brakes and have them just do it.... rear drums on the focus will last for a long time, over 150k on my stock rear drums and still had a lot of shoe left.
My car has 223k miles on it, could be why the rears are going out eh? I may just take it into a shop for that, don't know yet. I like doing things myself whenever possible. Would putting a disk brake set on the rear be of any benefit, or is it better to just stick with the drums?

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It does provide with better braking. but they are hard to find... most kits on this forum for sale go for about $350-$400 + Shipping. If you are lucky and can find them in the junk yard...I have gone to 3 and have not seen 1 set yet. One full front and rear set just sold for $550 + shipping... an little out of your price range IIRC....

Stay with the drums unless you intend to do any type of legal racing events. Just pull them off and clean them up. there are a lot of YouTube videos on the rear drums. Some just pull off others don't. I had a puller on my rear drums and a 3ft cheater bar and the rear drum did not even budge. I plan on auto crossing my car and its also been on blocks for 1.5 years while doing my rebuild so I am in no hurry.
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@ferrari. Buddy up with someone who knows what they are doing, that's one way to learn. Especially if you have always brought your car in for service. See a lot of people get in over their heads.
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Brakes are also one thing you don't really want to mess up... because its not just you that you might get the raw end of that deal.
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