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Old 02-18-2005, 09:56 PM   #1
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cornering techniques

I realize everyone drives their car differently... and i would like to go over a few subjects when it comes to proper cornering techniques. I've got the general idea, or basically a good foundation of knowledge to begin with, but i'd like to hear others' thoughts and insight to their habits or techniques related on the subject.

now, I understand that on a sharp 90 corner (assuming speed is about 60mph): one should apply enough braking power to transfer enough weight to the front for traction. Normally i brake while downshifting into 2nd and by the time my clutch is fully depressed my wheel is in turning motion, it is about this time I accelerate.

now, discussing a 90 corner with a not so acute angle. (or a freeway onramp if that is a better scenerio)
basically think of two 45 angles together... i don't know i hope you got a good visualization. (assume speed is 60mph).

about 100-250 feet into the corner i let off the gas because I get a lil fear-factor. (i rolled my 280z on it's side on a corner like im discribing).

Once i've got a clear sight, and i see the apex (about this time i decrease speed to approx 30-40mph) I begin to gas it and pull the car around, this is when i usually begin to notice the oversteer.

Now that' im done, i encourage people to explain their stories or techniques on proper handling. I'm by no means a pro, just a amature with some spirit, awaiting his first day at the track.

btw, anyone want to provide insight as if handbraking can be applied to any situation. I experimented once, and i didn't expect the 180 motion... i felt like an idiot waving into traffic facing right at me...


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Ebrake turns should only be used in a emepty parking lot or other controled envirment. The do this it helps if its a little wet to get a complete 180. Speed up to about 50 pull hard on the wheels (left or right) and pull hard on the ebrake. Hold untill you have completed turn then let off the ebrake and keep momentom forword to make it look planned and well exicuted.
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parking lot's scare me too... too close to residential areas where police could be seconds away..

do they have like a "free play area" at tracks to perform such manuevers... or must i spend $1000 for school....
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As long as its in a area where you cant hit anyone or anyone elses property. It also is better to do it on very smooth pavement that is wet. Just be safe and dont hurt anyone.
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a 90 degree turn at 60mph, i wouldn't even do that in my svt, let alone a zx3. 90 degree being like at an intersection? Or a 90 degree turn thats spread out, cuz a nascar turn is 90 degrees.
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well whatever speed you would approach a turn is dependant on the circumstances: Driving to a friends house, late to work, auto-x.

I suppose you approaching at 45mph is more reasonable... I implied 60mph because under HARD braking I consider that enough momentum to drive from the rear to the front wheels. at least that's what i gathered from watching racing on technical tracks.

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this evening there was a accident South bound on 880. I was headed on the onramp Northbound.... and usually i cruise... so a cop traveling to the accident who was in my blind spot area made the last second decision to jump in front of my casually slow moving ass... He zooms on the onramp at 50+

so naturally what do i do... I catch up.

Still fast, i don't know what they use to pull that much speed. But i stayed at a constant 50 all the way around... He was prolly at 50+
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The basic rules for a turn:

-brake BEFORE the turn, you brake in the turn, all the weight goes to the front you're liable to spin.

-apex late and carry it out to the outside, depending on the line, too many people apex WAY too early and they end up swinging way too far out and going much slower then they needed to.

I'm no expert, most everybody knows what I just said, but still most of them don't do it.
The most important is to always turn in 2nd gear, because going over 60 on a turn is just idiotic. On ramps for the highway 3rd gear, maybe!!
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Out here we have a race track called Waterford Hills. The SCCA holds a competition drivers school every year and the tracks club does as well.
I have attend drivers school twice and even thou we do not drive on the track every day, I feel these schools are a MUST for anyone wanting to drive 'fast ' on the street. I strongly urge you,-before- you hurt yourself or someone else- get to a drivers school and learn the basics.
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That said I will pass this on. I think it was mentioned above.
Slow is Fast. Slow IS Fast. Get all of your braking done before you turn in- this will help you mantain control. By maintaining control you will be able to put the gas down sooner and exit the corner faster. It is faster to exit the corner at speed that it is to enter a corner at speed.
ONE of the other keys is smooth. smooth is fast no herky jerky movements. Practice,Practice, Practice.
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-things I have heard...
Always brake in a staight line, .
never have the clutch in going into a turn, be in the grear you want BEFORE the turn and get off that clutch.
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