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Mr Orange SVT 08-21-2004 06:55 PM

4 point belts
Is anybody running with a 4 point belt set up? I'm looking to put one in my SVT but haven't found an easy way to do it so far. I've seen a couple of set ups that use a bolt in bar behind the front seats but I haven't seen it for the Focus. Any links, ideas or photos with your set ups would be appreciated.

jerryzx3 08-22-2004 02:30 PM

I know they have them that hook into your rear seatbelts so you don't have a bar but I don't know who makes them. Good luck

Egz 08-23-2004 08:28 AM

I used to run a Corbeau 3-point. They make 4-points as well. On a 4-point, the sholder belts attach to the rear seat buckle bolts, and the lap belts attach to the front seat belt bolts.

I'm going to be selling my 3 point soon. Got too nervous with it on track. Currently installing a roll bar and 6-points.

Vassili95 08-23-2004 08:43 AM

Joe...I def want to see your ride after the 6 points.

One question...was the 3 point just not enough with all the auto-x you do? I might be interested in that 3 point.....shoot a PM when you ready.


Egz 08-23-2004 10:27 AM

The 3-point worked well. It kept my ass in the seat, which is why I bought it. I found myself before holding myself in on tight corners with one of my hands under the seat before the belt.

Since I'm getting on the track more and more, I just didn't feel safe with it if I ever had a bad off. Thats why the upgrade. But I'll let you know when things are done.

all motor 08-23-2004 06:08 PM

are you talking about the rear seat bolts on the floor? i though harnesses were supposed to be secured at the level of shoulder height, or else they kind of push you down when tightened..

Egz 08-23-2004 08:24 PM

True, but they form more of a 45-60 degree angle. Not best, but better than straight down.

blackzx3_13 08-30-2004 05:11 PM

There is a Silver SVT that autocrosses with me, and he has a 4 point belt, and he has it mounted like the pic in the post above. The two top belts go behind the seat and down where the back rest and the seat part of the rear seat come together. I believe that their just bolted to the floor, but I havent had a chance to look at it up close.

WD40 08-30-2004 06:17 PM

This is quite the timely thread.
Had a 2 day AutoCross this weekend in Great Falls.
Was looking at a lot of the different setups for 4 points.
Unfortunately, there were no other "Foci" present.

OK, what I'm starting to deduce, (as I want the 4 point to be removeable).
Can't you use the "latch" points in the back for the shoulder belts?
Those would be the mounting points for child safety seats.
Seems it would be easy to use a climbing caribiner for easy mount/dismount to those "latch" points.
Still trying to figure out a convenient mount for the front 2 points though.

On the other hand....
Has anyone tried the locks for standard seat belts?
Don't have a link, (or the proper name), but I'll bring in the info tomorrow.
It's a device that locks the belt, so it doesn't loosen up.
I'm getting really tired of using the twist/wrap method to keep my belt tight.
(twisting the buckle a couple times, then latching it)
It works, but I've heard it's a quick ticket to a broken collar bone if you hit anything.[eek]

Thanks for bringing this up, blackzx3_13.[thumb]

Mr Orange SVT 08-30-2004 08:51 PM

I came up with a solution. I bought a set of Simpson belts, a Y-belt for the shoulder and the standard lap belt. They came with an eye that I use to replace the bolt that holds in the stock belts. I've changed the ends of the Simpsons so they snap in and out. This still leaves my stock belts in place and I can easily install the 4 points when I go to an event. It cost me about $130 for the set up.

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