I was going to ditch my Ford Racing header for a Focus Sport racing header but that would be pointless after what I read. See, a race header gives you more whp over a shorty header and I was going to go to the drag strip to see what my ET is but after reading this shit RULES FOR STREET NIGHT PROGRAM (http://www.newenglanddragway.com/trackinfo/handbook/streetprogram.shtml) It would be stupid. Here is a quote from it.

It is also the perfect setting for the more experienced enthusiast who would like to test performance modifications. But they won't let me test the performance of a race header!! [:(!]

It's nice to have rules but man those suck.

OH WELL, saves me money at least.

Summerduck Drag Strip in VA has a rule that if you have a street driven car which still has to pass emissions, then you cannot run a race header or an exhaust without a cat.

Yea, stupid ass rule I think. Once I read the "No open exhaust allowed" I was pissed.

I have a friend that was banned from a strip because they inspected his car and he had an exhaust mani and cat then when they left he stuck on the race header and raced a race. Tehy came around and found out what he had done and booted him.

I thought their meaning of an open exhaust is a straight pipe, aka, no muffler or resonator. <shrug>

I dunno, but in the rules it says car must past state inspection.

Originally posted by ALL_MOTOR_ZETEC
I dunno, but in the rules it says car must past state inspection.

That's not what I read.

"Vehicles must be street legal and able to pass state safety inspection. "

A state safety inspection is not an emmisions inspection and it doesn't say anywhere that you can not run modified exhaust.

Why don't you call the front office at the track and just ask them? You may be surprised by the answer [;)]

Kat's5

You are wrong there. It depends on the state. In VA, part of the safety inspection is the visual inspection of the emissions equipment and if it isn't there then you are SOL and not passing the inspection.

thats about gay. so what ya'll r sayin that if uve got a race header, u cant go to a drag strip?? i am gonna get a race header and at some time i wanted to go to a strip. o well i guess.

Originally posted by jisturm
You are wrong there. It depends on the state. In VA, part of the safety inspection is the visual inspection of the emissions equipment and if it isn't there then you are SOL and not passing the inspection.

OK jisturm,
First, how do you know I'm wrong? Did you do what I asked? Did you call the race track and verify what I said? NO! You didn't. [?|]

I did.
And while they didn't give me a concrete answer, they did say that the "inspection" is NOT the State safety/emissions inspection.
The person who can answer this question definitively is Joe Lambrado. He can be reached at the track on Monday at (603) 679-8001.
Why don't you call them on Monday and prove me wrong instead of just speculating [thumb] .
Thanks,
Kat's5

oooook [scratch] You live in California and your calling a track in New Hampshire? Why?

Originally posted by ALL_MOTOR_ZETEC
oooook [scratch] You live in California and your calling a track in New Hampshire? Why?

Because I have been racing for MANY years (I'm 43) and I have never heard of a "racing event", especially a drag racing event, where cars are disallowed because they were modified for racing. Think about it.
Besides, the posters on this thread are getting all worried because they "think" that what is in the rules "could" mean something, and they won't just pick up the phone and find out.

Wouldn't it be great if this story had a happy ending and anyone with any car with any mods could race and have a good time? [thumb]
I'll bet you a beer that's what the promoter has in mind [;)]

We'll find out Monday, huh?

Peace,
Kat's5

Without sound like an ass, don't act like this again there guy. I was referring to the track I mentioned and no I did not call the track. I have much more important thing to do than to call a track that I will never go to to prove a stupid point. I was simply referring to a track in VA.

I don't appreciate your sh**ty attitude.

I have been to tracks in NJ, PA and NY and never heard of such a thing as not allowing a race header.

What that would mean is that they can never run any kind of event there.

Originally posted by kat's5
And while they didn't give me a concrete answer, they did say that the "inspection" is NOT the State safety/emissions inspection.
Kat's5 Ok, OF course it IS NOT the state safety/emissions inspection! If it was, that would mean that every Friday night you go to the track, you're going for a state inspection, which would be stupid. It says *Vehicles must be street legal and able to pass state safety inspection* Removing the catalytic converter is NOT street legal. The track checks your car to make sure you are street legal and that nothing is leaking, and ect.

Actually Focal, they would be allowed to hold events there because these rules only apply to the street night program which is held on Wednesday and Friday night, it's so new comers can get a feeling of drag racing or for tuners to test out performance parts (so they say on the site) The other events have different rules.

I was about to say that ALL_MOTOR

Thats most tracks rules

Originally posted by ALL_MOTOR_ZETEC
Actually Focal, they would be allowed to hold events there because these rules only apply to the street night program which is held on Wednesday and Friday night, it's so new comers can get a feeling of drag racing or for tuners to test out performance parts (so they say on the site) The other events have different rules.

So why no race headers on just those nights?

Fo newcomers, that makes no sense? Neither does saying its for tuners to test parts, most tuners remove the cats early in the modding game?

I don't know man. That's why I think it's stupid, and that's why I'm pissed about it. Worst part about it, is it's the only drag track in New Hampshire.

I think you are reading this incorrectly and should call them. They already mentioned 'no open exhaust' which just means you need to run it out the back of the car with a muffler. I know you see 'street legal' and panic, but that refers to other crazy things that track monkeys do, like running a small fuel tank and removing the big stock one... taking the rear bumper off... etc... those are the kinds of things that are unsafe.

They allow nitrous, so what does that tell you about 'street legal'? Maybe you already made up your mind about the headers, but I don't think you are right about the track not allowing you to run them and a muffler.

btw, see this page for the safety requirements, which is linked to from your page you linked, it mentions things like a full hood.

http://www.newenglanddragway.com/trackinfo/handbook/gen_safety.shtml

Well if I am allowed to run a race header then they should put that in there because those rules are confusing. IE, they should say; Race Headers are acceptable.

I'll try to give them a call tommorow and see if I can a hold of anyone.

OK Gang, Here is the straight POOP as far as the rules concerning the "Safety inspection" for the New England Raceway's Street Night:

Any, let me repeat that for the technically challenged here[;)], ANY modifications to your vehicle are allowed as long as they do not create an unsafe vehicle. The "inspection" consists of the usual "raceway inspection" for safety. Things like a cracked windshield or an oil leak or not having a radiator catch can will result in your vehicle NOT being able to run.
Things like a race header or nitrous oxide or a big mutha turbocharger will only result in faster times, not disqualification.
Everyone understand [paranoid] ?

I apologize for sounding like an a$$h@le on my previous posts but it is damn silly that a guy, who lives all the way in California (Eureka, not the weirdo tinsel town area) has to make the phone call to get this thing sorted.
Just use common sense and your life will be much easier. Glad I could help.
Thank you.
(getting down from soapbox)

Kat's5

Originally posted by ALL_MOTOR_ZETEC
Yea, stupid ass rule I think. Once I read the "No open exhaust allowed" I was pissed.

Dude, just run a muffler. Seriously, don't ditch the long-tube. That would be stupid. Go with the long-tube and a good 2.5" cat back exhaust.

So race header = go

That's what I thought

Aren't you supposed to be project ALL-MOTOR? Don't deny yourself the HP advantage of a long-tube. Do it right.

I agree with Matt, dont deny yourself. [thumb]

Well actually I emailed the track and got a email back today, the guy said he was sorry for the confusion and that I can run a race header. Just have to have a muffler which of course I have. I'll most likely get a race header but I need a way to keep my exhaust noise down.

How about you get the race header and Focus Sport stealth exhaust?

Because I don't wanna give up my Borla [:)]

Well then, it's gonna be loud. I thought you said you wanted a way to make it quiet?

I'd like it to be under 95 decibals. I'm throwing in another resonator but don't know how low that will make it.

Originally posted by ALL_MOTOR_ZETEC
Well actually I emailed the track and got a email back today, the guy said he was sorry for the confusion and that I can run a race header. Just have to have a muffler which of course I have. I'll most likely get a race header but I need a way to keep my exhaust noise down.

Put a 4 inch or 6 inch Magnaflow straight round muffler in there as a resonator. Tehy even call them muffler/resonators. It worked great on mine. It was still loud, but not totally obnoxious.