Been lurking around for some time reading about Focus and mods you folks have done. Got very interested so I bought an new ZX-3. Sold it back two days later. What a pile of junk!
Quality is evidently no longer job one at Ford. Dealer found a loose bolt knocking around the right rear quarter panel, removed it, and the car still sounds like it is running on broken shocks. Tire slap, road noise, no goodies available. Now have a new Fusion.

Thanks for all the grins....

Oh so now you're better than us??? [:)]

Okay. Thanks for the punch to the nuts. [rolleyes] And why did you buy a Ford Fusion if "quality is evidently no longer job one at Ford" then?

sounds like you just got a lemon bro. My zx3 was flawless when i bought it, and ran like a champ for over 50k miles until i traded it in. Hope you like the fusion. nice car

Bye[wave]

Just curious. Does anyone know what he means by "tireslap" ?

come on you know tireslap...when the tireslaps against the car real hard like it resents the fact that it is attached to it...or when the car makes a funny "that one was a tireslapper". and what goodies does the fusion have that the focus doesnt an analog clock...ohhh

Originally posted by Bill of Ojai
Been lurking around for some time reading about Focus and mods you folks have done. Got very interested so I bought an new ZX-3. Sold it back two days later. What a pile of junk!
Quality is evidently no longer job one at Ford. Dealer found a loose bolt knocking around the right rear quarter panel, removed it, and the car still sounds like it is running on broken shocks. Tire slap, road noise, no goodies available. Now have a new Fusion.

Thanks for all the grins....

Enjoy the primitive 6 cylinder engine, automatic tranny (only one available) and the one-star crash worthiness of your superior vehicle. If Ford sux so bad, why didn't you buy one of the leaders in the family sedan category - an accord or Maxima or something.

sounds like you got that last shift Friday Focus. Not all Foci are like that. Too bad you now have a sour taste left in your mouth from that experience. I like the Fuzion, but am kinda curious why you stuck with Ford after complaining about how bad the quality is.

i drove my orig ZX3 till like 60k no probs thats why i bought a SVT............good luck with the fusion (enjoy the slushbox)................later

umm the fusion is just a focus with a bigger passenger compartment

"Quality is evidently no longer job one at Ford." ......... "Now have a new Fusion."

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Way to go!

Originally posted by viney266
Just curious. Does anyone know what he means by "tireslap" ?

It means he hated his car so much he wanted to slap the tires. [thumb]

Just cause you got ripped off with your focus doesnt mean their all screwed up
mine was perfect [scratch]

hope u dont die...they did really sucky in crash testing..bubye

Enjoy the primitive 6 cylinder engine, automatic tranny (only one available) and the one-star crash worthiness of your superior vehicle. If Ford sux so bad, why didn't you buy one of the leaders in the family sedan category - an accord or Maxima or something.
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primitive 6 cylinder??? one star crash test? I never heard that before. And not a reason to keep me from buying a car. I would take a fusion over an accord or maxima any day. glad he stayed with ford. Good for him

^^^yea i really dont know what hes talking about, i mean one star crash test....if that was the case do you think the sales of the fusion would be so high, i mean i know its new but if it had 1 star no one would buy it. And how is the 6 cyl engine primitive, isnt the 6cly a duratec engine that is fairly new, i think what he meant was that it is underpowered compared to the other 6cly engines out there. But you know what it had a decent get up and go when i was test driving it around a closed course at a Ford autoshow....im not sure how many of you people who are bashing it have actually driven one. And about the automatic, its actually pretty good, and its alot better then the one in the focus. Oh also it handles really well for what kinda car it is, i was driving it pretty hard around the turns on the course and there was no tire squel at all.....and of course after driving a focus for so long you dont say any old car is a good handler. I think he made a good choice....although if i was that annoyed with ford, i probably wouldnt of bought anything from them unless it was a mustang.....so yea that point is alittle strange to me.

I think that was the main point, if he thought Ford fell down on the job, why'd he end up buying another Ford? To take his chances with that one?

The Fusion is a nice car, I have nothing against it, just seems odd to say Ford's quality has gone to crap... and then say... oh yeah, I bought another Ford. [rolleyes] The Fusion's ATX is supposed to be decent (I haven't driven one yet myself) but all the reviews I've read said the shift points were odd and sometimes misplaced, and that the shifter was lacking much choice when it came to putting it in something other than "Drive."

Originally posted by vanace
Enjoy the primitive 6 cylinder engine, automatic tranny (only one available) and the one-star crash worthiness of your superior vehicle. If Ford sux so bad, why didn't you buy one of the leaders in the family sedan category - an accord or Maxima or something.
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primitive 6 cylinder??? one star crash test? I never heard that before. And not a reason to keep me from buying a car. I would take a fusion over an accord or maxima any day. glad he stayed with ford. Good for him

Actually, it was on the local news recently. The Fusion had one of the wrost crash ratings.

Yeah it probably was not the car, but the stupid ass driver!!!!
hey buddy im sure we'll see you again..... when were passin ya on the freeway!!![thumb]

he wasnt happy with a wrc styled car he wanted a nascar... :D

Yeah, if I had to get a Fusion, I'd stick to the 4cyl and stickshift. And my ST was built on the Friday before Christmas, and it was damn near flawless, only the cruise control had a problem, and only cuz it wasn't properly connected.

This post reeks of BS. First of all, unless this kid put down an enormous sum of money on his ZX3, he was immediately $5,000 upside down the minute he drove it off the lot. I have never in my life heard of anyone buying a new car and then trading it in two days later. That is financial suicide, and just about the dumbest thing I've read on these forums.

And then to buy a Fusion? I wouldn't take that car if someone handed me the keys and said "here you go, it's free!" Ford quality generally sucks balls, but amazingly enough my SVT has been problem free the past two years. But this will definitely be the last Ford product to grace my driveway. There isn't a single vehicle they make now that has me remotely interested. And now with SVT being no more, I would say it will probably be that way for many, many years to come.

Maybe some day Ford will get hip and bring over some of their European product (specifically the European Focus) which is vastly superior in every conceiveable way to the garbage they sell here in America. That might pique my interest, but it's doubtful Ford will ever do that, and I'm not holding my breath.

Originally posted by 007
This post reeks of BS. First of all, unless this kid put down an enormous sum of money on his ZX3, he was immediately $5,000 upside down the minute he drove it off the lot.

Are you calling him a "kid" ironically, or are you even older than him? Because "Bill of Ojai" is apparently approaching his 57th birthday.

Originally posted by 007
This post reeks of BS. First of all, unless this kid put down an enormous sum of money on his ZX3, he was immediately $5,000 upside down the minute he drove it off the lot. I have never in my life heard of anyone buying a new car and then trading it in two days later. That is financial suicide, and just about the dumbest thing I've read on these forums. I've seen dealers advertise you can bring a car back for any other if you are not happy.

Originally posted by 007


Maybe some day Ford will get hip and bring over some of their European product (specifically the European Focus) which is vastly superior in every conceiveable way to the garbage they sell here in America. That might pique my interest, but it's doubtful Ford will ever do that, and I'm not holding my breath.

Very true. I work for a company that has is headquarted in europe and they use a bunch of 00-01 foci 1.8L TD wagons as their company cars and each and every one of them feels like a much better build car then my 500 mile 05 Focus ST. It's things like the laser cut key with remote in the key itself, that opens the hood by sliding up the emblem and unlocking it first with the key etc etc etc. The euro foci don't nearly seem to rattle as much, feel more solid at high speeds (might be made belief), and on and on. Unfortunately it's not just the focus that seems to be a better build car in europe then in NA. Ah well, whatcha gonna do....

Yup, it's really annoying that since the competition is more fierce here in Europe (many more brands than stateside), the same cars sold by Ford in the States are much better in Europe. They have much better interior quality, have more powerful engines and better suspension setup than those sold to us in the USA.

The other day I was passed by a TDCi Focus that should be slower than my car. He not only pulled away from me like I was standing still, he then left me behind as I bounced helplessly off of the pathetic 108mph limiter. DOH! (*^*&^%&%

I know for fact, that the Fusion has picked up the nick name "Rattle Trap" My brother bought one the same day I bought my ZX4. His pops and rattles. The web site he has been going too gave it that name. He still loves it, but it does have a lot of noise. GO FOCUS!!!

Originally posted by EricR
I've seen dealers advertise you can bring a car back for any other if you are not happy. Yeah sure, the banks love negative equity. Once you sign on the dotted line and drive off that's it, you own that baby. There is no cooling off period where if you decide you don't like it you just bring it back for something else. That's what the test drive is for. This isn't like purchasing something at a major department store where you have 30 days to return something if you don't like it. Basically you're pretty screwed if you decide two days later you bought the wrong car. At that point you better start figuring out a way to make it the "right car" or do something really stupid like this guy and trade it in (and in this case, for an even worse vehicle [confused] ).

Originally posted by 007
Yeah sure, the banks love negative equity. Once you sign on the dotted line and drive off that's it, you own that baby. There is no cooling off period where if you decide you don't like it you just bring it back for something else. That's what the test drive is for. This isn't like purchasing something at a major department store where you have 30 days to return something if you don't like it. Basically you're pretty screwed if you decide two days later you bought the wrong car. At that point you better start figuring out a way to make it the "right car" or do something really stupid like this guy and trade it in (and in this case, for an even worse vehicle [confused] ). Some states have a Buyers Remorse period, I know Texas does, of a week to 1 month depending.. and it affects the buyer in no way... other than allowing them to return te car with no penalty except possibly a surcharge for milage and cleanign if necessary

This was a stupid post on his part. Apparently he didn't learn anything while he was reading our posts, otherwise he would've known to stick around since he might have a Duratec in his Fusion.

Oh well.. that's what I'm here for, wasting my time [clap]

Thanks Bill of Ojai (wherever that is) [wave] don't let the door hit you on the way out [doorpeek]

What an ass..... just cause he got a lemon he thinks all of our cars are the same. IDIOT. Like all cars that come out of the assembly line are perfect. Jeez...... What an ass. He obviously didn't learn thing. My focus is flawless and hasn't given me no HUGE problems. The only reason I would trade it in would be to get a used WRX or a used Spec-V Sentra.

007, I just bought a car within the last year and the dealer told me that I had 14 days to return it if I didn't like it. I just looked at my paperwork and it's stated right there. I could have bought another car during that time frame and owed them NOTHING except for the price of the new car.

007 your so negitive. so you don't like the fusion... so don't buy one. I and most others here think it is a fine car. To each there own. But don't beat up the car just because it isn't your style. It is selling quite well. And if the car is purchased, and traded in a couple of days, I am sure in some states the dealer can still sell it as new.. probably with a discount. It is feasable that he is telling the truth. Lighten up man!!

Originally posted by Onlyford4me
007, I just bought a car within the last year and the dealer told me that I had 14 days to return it if I didn't like it. I just looked at my paperwork and it's stated right there. I could have bought another car during that time frame and owed them NOTHING except for the price of the new car. I have never heard of that before. It specifically states in my financing contract for my SVT there is no cooling off period whatsoever. Meaning the SVT was mine the minute all four wheels left the dealership parking lot. But I'm not going to refute what you say since you have the paperwork right in front of you. I know it doesn't work that way in Texas, and I've never had that option in other states in which I've purchased a car. But I tell you what, that is killer. 14 days after you sign on the dotted line, what a great deal. I know of many dealerships that will let you take a car home over the weekend (this was offered to me when I purchased my SVT) just so you make sure you don't get buyers remorse, but I've never heard of a 14 day cooling off period after you buy the car and sign the contracts.

The original thread starter never came back and posted, so no one knows if that's the deal he had. If so then swapping for the Fusion would make much more sense. Although that doesn't mean I have to like the Fusion either. But if rolled no negative equity into the deal and thinks the Fusion is a better car, more power to him!

Originally posted by HuTcH77
Some states have a Buyers Remorse period, I know Texas does, of a week to 1 month depending.. and it affects the buyer in no way... other than allowing them to return te car with no penalty except possibly a surcharge for milage and cleanign if necessary That is not true. I have my contracts for both my SVT and my Acura RSX in front of me, both were purchased in Texas. There is nothing in either contract that states anything about a cooling off period or legal obligation to take the car back in a week or month. Don't know where you are getting your info but it's wrong. On top of that, here is a direct quote from Nolo press (authority in legal matters) about a supposed legal cooling off period:

If I change my mind after I buy a car, do I have the right to cancel the contract?

No. Unfortunately, many people think they have a right to change their mind, drive the car back to the dealer a day or two after buying, and cancel the contract. But the truth is, the dealer doesn't have to take the car back and probably won't, and you'll be stuck with a car you no longer want or cannot afford. Never buy a car unless you are absolutely certain you want it and can afford it.

This misunderstanding is so widespread that California requires the following to be included in new car contracts:

California law does not provide for a "cooling off" or other cancellation period for vehicle sales. Therefore, you cannot later cancel this contract simply because you change your mind, decide the vehicle costs too much, or wish you had acquired a different vehicle. After you sign below, you may only cancel this contract with the agreement of the seller or for legal cause, such as fraud.

the origanal poster sounds like a typicall rich kid, so spoiled he gets a brand new car doesnt quite like it so he says its a piecer and trades it in. I am 20 years old since i was 17 i have had nothing but piecers. I will tell you right now when you drive 5 diffrent vehicls and the longest lived one was a year when you get into a brand new car like this you appreciate it. sounds to me like he was spoiled rotten. I test drove MANY cars before i choose my focus and here were my reasens for buying mine.

#1 the insurence was very low on this car which meant that i could spend more money per month for my car meaning a nicer car.

#2 out of all the local dealers (GM,Ford,Toyota,and countless used car dealers) for bang for buck this was hands down the fastes car i could afford, Faster than the Caviler,Neon,Escort,03ZetecFocus,civic,galant,and many others in which im not going to list

#3the options because of the low insurence i was able to afford a fully loaded 05 ZX5 SES the only options i didnt get was an auto (i cant remember if leather was an option if it was i dont have it lol and wouldnt want it) which meens i was able to afford the heated seats,heated mirriors, audiophile (wich is now gone because they suck lol)sunroof, cruise control, tc, abs, 16 inch aluminum alloy rims every thing.

#4 the sticker said it got 34 mpg highway. wich if i drive it nice i have gotten up to 35 mpg ( i usually drive fast so its usually around 28 mpg.

I love my car and just because a spoiled little brat gets on here and wants to run it down doesnt meen im not going to like it any less. he can have his Fusion ill keep my Focus and in the long run I will save ALOT more money than he problubly did.

People need to appreciate what they have.

Is anyone reading my posts?? I already posted that "Bill of Ojai" is about 57 years old, so he's hardly a spoiled rich kid.

Originally posted by 007
That is not true. I have my contracts for both my SVT and my Acura RSX in front of me, both were purchased in Texas. There is nothing in either contract that states anything about a cooling off period or legal obligation to take the car back in a week or month. Don't know where you are getting your info but it's wrong. On top of that, here is a direct quote from Nolo press (authority in legal matters) about a supposed legal cooling off period: could be a clause with the SVT i had 2 weeks on my ZX3...with the SVT they prolly put a clause in there due to the possibillity of abuse...

Texas DOES have buyers remorse.. along with the lemon law which are pretty much hand in Hand

gotta love the ignorant people... "Quality is evidently no longer job one at Ford." ......... "Now have a new Fusion." that has to be one of my greatest pet peeves, when someone says some stupid comment, and has nothing to back it up... enjoy your fusion!

i said he soudns like a spoiled rich kid i didnt say he was.

Okay. He's an old guy who acts like a spoiled rich kid, I understand. [:)]