02-24-2006, 08:46 AM
Here it is, the eagerly awaited Honda Civic Type-R Concept that will be presented next week in Geneva. This Concept should be very similar to the production 3-door version. In the Type-R and in this yellow livery it resembles a bad-ass car out the Mugen shop more than a "factory" Honda.
I guess this version will put to rest once and for all Top Gear's saying that only old people buy Hondas in Europa, nowadays.
The concept has the 200 ps 2.0 liters i-VTEC engine of the previous Type-R. We still don't know it the production Type-R will have the same engine.
Yeah I saw it... but for now iti s jut a riced out EUDM version of the Si.
I still like the EUDM Civic though
02-24-2006, 09:19 AM
Too bad the Euro Civic has cave-man twist beam rear suspension. I just picked up What Car? in the newstand last night...they gave the Euro Civic only 3 out of 5 stars. The New Focus and Golf had 5 and 4 stars respectively.
^^^Was that forsafety or overall?
Actually a road test I drove said that they torsion beam is vey well tuned...
TB is the suspension of choice in Europe because it save huge amount of space over multilink or even double wishbone... and if done right it can be as comfortable as multilink...
I elieve Honda let itself be heard that they chose the TB over ML because of packaging, raher than money.
02-24-2006, 09:31 AM
^^Yeah, if done right it can work well and seeing as this is almost a normal-sized family car over there, space is a serious consideration.
With some creativity and talented engineers, just about anything can be made to work. Look at what BMWs and Porsche have done with the McPherson strut design!
02-24-2006, 12:49 PM
i hate honda but that cobra 780 on the bottom is bad ass drool
02-24-2006, 01:13 PM
that put a bitter taste in my mouth...there is just no way to work with that design..they are btter off just sticking a type R sign on the back if they make it
02-24-2006, 01:23 PM
The hatch is alittle iffy for my taste but id rock one of those!
02-24-2006, 01:25 PM
personally i like the styling of the type r
02-24-2006, 01:35 PM
i dont like the back end AT ALL but overall it looks ok i guess
02-24-2006, 01:47 PM
in general i like it.. i like the bottom end of the rear, but that top/hatch portion is very iffy for me.
02-24-2006, 02:01 PM
02-24-2006, 02:05 PM
Igor: overall three stars. They actually complimented the handling, it's just me that doesn't like torsion beams:)
What Car? complained that the car sacrafices usability for style. I sat in the American Civic and felt that way. It reminded me of the last Mercury Cougar. Great looking car, but lots of blind spots inside. It's a real step back in my opinion for a company that is well known for ergonomic and usable interiors.
I've heard comlaints about the ease of entry into the car. Especially the euro-version is difficult to get in the back with those small doors. For some reason, the Euro version is not available with a rear wiper. Big mistake.
02-24-2006, 02:16 PM
It's really aggressive, a little extreme for my tastes.
Are older people really the big Honda market in Europe? I'd be in stitches if I saw a grandma driving that!