: what's up with this prius?
01-28-2006, 06:39 PM
i know i should have done a search to see if this has been talked about in the past, but i am too lazy...sorry.[rolleyes]
i saw one on the road today for the first time and i thought it was kind of a cool looking/weird looking car. i noticed it was a hybrid.
i was just wondering if any of you could give me some basic info on it. i'd really appreciate it.
(if anyone does actually reply...could i ask a favour?....could you make it kind of simple....i am a car moron![:p] ) thanks........
01-28-2006, 06:45 PM
sure... its a gas electric, it has something like an 80-90 hp gas motor, and an electric motor. it gets anywhere from 50-70 miles per gallon, depending if driving city or highway. the gas motor propels the car from inital takeoff, and then combines with the electric to propel tha car. the batteries are self charging, and charge when decellerating. gets like 450 miles per tank, or something crazy like that. costs around 20g's and savela hella lot on gas(but it is slow as a mother!!!)
01-28-2006, 08:32 PM
at least it looks better then the honda insight......[xx(] But yea slow is right, think like 0-60 in 13 seconds or somethin lol
01-28-2006, 08:50 PM
You've never seen the Prius on the road before?? That's weird! I see them all the time. They are everywhere out here.
The environmental friendliness of the car is dubious - the mileage Toyota claims it can achieve is rare in real life, in fact, some regular ol' gas engine cars can get close to or equal the mileage of the Prius. Also that huge battery pack in the Prius has to be disposed of eventually, since batteries don't last forever. I don't know if they recycle them or dispose of them in a landfill.
The supposed "savings" in fuel costs over a regular car actually takes so long to accumulate that most owners will never see a savings and would actually be financially better off buying a less-expensive but traditional car like a Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla. In other words, you pay more for the purchase price of the Prius with the idea that you're going to save money on gas, and thus it will be cheaper to own than a regular car, but in reality that savings takes many years to materialize, and most new car buyers don't keep a car that long, they trade it in a few years later for something else. Thus, the car is extremely popular with poseur idiots who think they are doing something great for the environment and are so much smarter and more environmentally conscious than the rest of us... when in reality if they had half a brain they would have realized they could achieve the same results for less money. IMO it's a very trendy car, thus why (for a time, at least) movie stars wanted to be seen in one, instead of a limo.
As evidence that morons who want to be part of the latest trend are buying this car, there has always been a waiting list to buy one, and most owners are paying thousands (sometimes 5,000 to 10,000) more than the list price to get one, TOTALLY blowing away the whole "the increased gas mileage will save me money in the long run" argument. Can you tell I'm not a big fan of the car? [rolleyes] [:D]
01-28-2006, 08:51 PM
typically you will see a higher mpg in city driving then highway driving
01-28-2006, 08:54 PM
i guess it wouldn't get that much pick-up if you were trying to get onto the highway. i only have a 4 cyl altima, but it has great pick-up when i want to tear ass a bit. my son thinks it's a slow lumbering thing with no power, but it fills my needs.
that mileage sounds fantastic, matthew...and the price is definitely low, considering how much money somebody could save in gas.
i guess it just caught my eye because i saw it was a toyota. and i was sort of intrigued with the look of it.
my very first car was a toyota corolla. it was my baby....it was ugly....some kind of rust color...i bought it off my brother-in-law for $3000.............i think he overcharged me!!! but i did love it so. i'll see if i can dig up a picture of it.
i appreciate your comments, guys.......and also for keeping it simple.[:)]
01-28-2006, 09:03 PM
az...my husband and i both have bought cars throughout our lifetime and we always wear them to their last breath. not that we run them into the ground or anything, he changes the oil religiously, takes care of the tire rotations, tune-ups, the whole blasted thing...so maybe we would be the types to actually benefit from the savings on gas.
and that is interesting dgualtie, that the city mpg will be higher.....but i think i can understand why.
01-28-2006, 09:03 PM
Originally posted by azdamay
The supposed "savings" in fuel costs over a regular car actually takes so long to accumulate that most owners will never see a savings and would actually be financially better off buying a less-expensive but traditional car like a Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla
Exactly… Hybrid vehicles are relatively expensive. It is not worth it… If an individual is concerned with fuel economy, purchase a Civic or Corolla. The additional amount of money being spend does not benefit the buyer. An individual would save more money purchasing a fuel-efficient gas vehicle
01-28-2006, 09:05 PM
but is 20k that expensive for a car that will save you money in the long run.....and obviously it would have to be a long run..
01-28-2006, 09:10 PM
this is my first car....a toyota corolla........my baby..........i don't remember exactly what the year of it was....possibly a 75 or something......maybe one of you car guys could tell me.
it is not the greatest pic...but it is all i could find.
01-28-2006, 09:12 PM
.......oh disregard the freaks in the picture...they are only my nephews and my niece.[:p]
01-28-2006, 09:31 PM
I don't know the year of that Corolla but I do know that they use (or used) one that looks like it on "That '70s Show" on Fox. [:D]
01-28-2006, 09:58 PM
really az?!?!? i find that hysterical!![:D] i have seen that show only a few times so i never noticed. i guess it wasn't that same "beautiful" color?!
it was a really good car for me though. not too many problems. the only real time it gave me any pain was when i must have gotten water in the gas tank and i kept stalling out at the most unopportune times. i would be driving home from work on the garden state parkway and i would be motoring along and all of a sudden my puppy would just die on me....completely shut down. i would manage to make it to the shoulder, but man, it would freak me out!
01-28-2006, 10:42 PM
The one on the TV show is bright orange, I think. I haven't watched the show in a couple years, but at one time it was the "new" car for the mom and dad since they gave the Olds Vista Cruiser to their son. The Corolla is the car that pretty much built Toyota's reputation here in the U.S. more than any of their other vehicles.
01-28-2006, 10:54 PM
From what I herd, Toyota is porting over the Yaris, which will replace the Echo. In Europe, it is a best-seller and noted for excellent fuel economy. Most likely, we will receive a different powertrain, I am guessing it will share the Echo’s. In any case, it is relatively cheap. I think Honda may port over the Jazz, but I am not sure. I just think there are cheaper alternatives…
01-28-2006, 11:01 PM
Commercially, America has not been concerned about economy for a while… Now the automobile industry is trying to harness this. In other countries, efficient gas vehicles have been produced for a while. There are many vehicle models that we do not have. This is largely attributed to questionable sales… However, with gasoline prices rising, automakers are seeing a potential “fuel-efficient” market in America…
01-28-2006, 11:03 PM
i have always liked the prius in one way or anothor, the looks are surprisling good for a hybrid, if you look at the insight and others there [:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)]in ugly i just like the way it looks for me if i could afford the car right now i would i know this sounds weird i get about 28 mpg in my focus and that all well and good but im driving about 400-500 miles a week the prius would probley cut my gas cost in half easily i would get a break on taxes because its a clean air car and there is no way to mod it so i would save there too[:)~] i love my focus and i would probley never trade it for a prius but i would have to thing twice before making that desision. Personally a hybrid Focus would be awsome[thumb] [thumb] [thumb]
01-28-2006, 11:07 PM
You won't get good mileage on the prius unless you drive specifically to its needs. You can probably find guides on how to drive it online. I know Wired magazine had one in it. If you drive them right you can get up to 70 mpg in the city, but you can forget ever having a jack rabit start. The batteries are under warrenty for 70k miles, but cost 2-3k to be replaced. It is a cool car, but it is slow and has to be babied into good gas mileage. So overall it is just not worth it. Maybe when hybrids get to 100+ mpg they will offset the extra cost, until then....... you are better off getting a civic (ugh) or a corrolla, or for fun a mini.
01-28-2006, 11:13 PM
yeah..well of course the whole gas thing is getting out of hand....but so is the sales of all these enormous suvs........i can't even call them suvs........they are freaking tanks!!! they are all over the roads and they think they own the roads. i am so tired of having to deal with them. and the people driving them are inevitably on their cel phone...so that makes it doubly worse!
and az....i think you are right when you say that the corolla made toyota....they also had the lesser model, the corona. but hot damn i loved my little ugly-colored toyota...he was really a trip! probably mostly because it was my first baby, but he truly worked his heart out for me. i felt so terrible when he finally died and had to be towed away.................of course i cried. but i threw him a kiss as he was being carted off.[:(] he was the best![thumb] ( i love you rusty!![:)] )
01-28-2006, 11:24 PM
focusman, you make a good point that you could get money off your taxes because you are driving a clean air equipped car....i never thought of that.
and lucidity, i mostly do city/around town driving...so maybe it would suit me well?
i don't know....when i saw it for the first time today on the streets of jersey i just liked the looks of it...i thought it was different looking and kind of unique.......................not that i want to give up my 'sexy beast' altima anytime soon, but i'm just checking other cars out.[:)]
01-28-2006, 11:53 PM
Originally posted by cassa
but so is the sales of all these enormous suvs........i can't even call them suvs........they are freaking tanks!!!
01-29-2006, 12:30 AM
aren't they getting ridiculous??!!!? and the people who drive them don't know what the freak they are doing!! it just pisses me off.
they try and pull out of a parking space in a shopping center....they are on their cell phone...and drinking a cup of coffee...and smoking a cigarette......and mostly they are women!!! and even though i am a woman too, it just pisses me off that these biotches can have no regard for anyone else around them. they are freaking menaces!! i can't wait till jersey puts a full ban on using a cell phone in a car...........or for that matter, in a tank!
01-29-2006, 03:21 AM
they did a study on the new honda hybrid and they figured that it would take you 20 yrs to break even and the car to be worth buying over a regular 4 banger. now when it comes to saving the planet thats different story. then there worth it from day one
01-29-2006, 07:41 PM
20 years?!? i don't know if i'll even be alive by then!!
thanks again everybody for your input on this....i learned a lot![thumb]
01-29-2006, 07:50 PM
i dont think most of the buyers of the pruis are doing it to save money on the whole. id hazard a guess that most are buying them because of the descreased fuel consumption, ergo lower oil demand, lower prices, decreased oil consumption overall
01-30-2006, 12:45 AM
well i guess that makes some sense, pat.
i don't know...i just liked the looks on the freakin thing....it was a bit different......it reminded me a little bit of the focus, but a bit more like a little ball!........it just looked cute to me....
01-30-2006, 03:18 PM
You actually get a tax break that it pretty much equal to the additional cost, so it doesn't actually take that long to recoup the cost vs. a normal car. I also think that those famous people are buying them for their ecologically-friendly image than actual financial reasons. Like buying organic food or recycled materials...
However, there are plenty of cars that out-perform their gas mileage in the real world while being much more pleasant to drive, like the TDI Volkswagens. A TDI Golf can regularly get 50+MPG in mixed driving with no worries about the leftover batteries and plenty of performance. Hopefully, from Fields (new Ford president), it sounds like we will be getting some of Ford's excellent TDci technology from Europe, which have been making 40-50mpg in Focuses for years...