Tom my goal is to run 12's with your full kit on the stock SVTF block and tuned for 91 octane gas is it possible i know i will need drivetrain mods LSD clutch ETC. but can it put down the power i need on 91 oct if so i will most likely take some time off work and drive out to have you tune the car and then hopefully drive it back if that can be done? [thumb]

but toms wasnt on 91 octane....

The turbo in Toms kit is just a tad bigger than mine and makes more TQ, but I still make 329whp and 278wtq on 93 octane on STOCK internals. It should run in the 12's..... but I'm more into road racing not drag racing.

Originally posted by hogy72
but toms wasnt on 91 octane....

exactly i will be running on 91 oct. id be happy to see 300 whp on 91 oct.

Im not saying it cannot be done but i wont tune it for that it just wouldnt be safe 300HP on a 10.2 compression zetec is realy pushing it

Take 10.2 compression on a Mitsu, Nissan , Honda , and 91 and i have squeased out 400 but not with the Zetec there is a BIG Diff between efficient and unefficient engines as to where the threshold is for deto/octane

I think 300HP on 10.2 with 91 is pushing it to far

Tom

tom how much hp and tq do you think i will see with 15psi on 93 octane. and when i get your intercooler upgrade how much boost do you think i can run with all stock internals with just upgraded clutch and flywheel on 93 octane

As a rule of thumb......... 1psi = 10whp gained

Just about 15 will be the limit on the all stock engine and 93 that will be in the 250 range

Tom

what are some things i will have to do to go above 15psi
what is 03orangesvt doing to run 19psi

He has a SVT engine , MUCH better rods

Build the bottom end

Tom

ok thanks tom for the info, tom are you doing anything for the svt reguarding a intake manafold are you making them i know before you told me you were trying to make the ford racing intake for the zetec work for the svt whats the progress on that

Originally posted by 1turbofocus
Just about 15 will be the limit on the all stock engine and 93 that will be in the 250 range

Tom

this is confusing me so you mean 15 on all stock regualr zetec engines and the svtf can handle 19.

Its not that the SVT cant handle more boost, we did a couple of run over 22psi on my car. We were trying to hit 350whp on stock internals, we made it to 333whp but the J&S started to come on so we backed it down to where it is today 19psi.

The biggest problem is boost will only take you so far.... the more boost you run the less timing you can do. Once you get around 17-20psi or so on 93 you have to pull so much timing to stay away from DETO that you dont make anymore power.

What really helped me was the prototype intake manifold, it flows soooo much better than stock. If I remember right it was somewhere around 20 or so WHP but just bolting it on... without changing the tune.

Originally posted by 03OrangeSVT
Its not that the SVT cant handle more boost, we did a couple of run over 22psi on my car. We were trying to hit 350whp on stock internals, we made it to 333whp but the J&S started to come on so we backed it down to where it is today 19psi.

The biggest problem is boost will only take you so far.... the more boost you run the less timing you can do. Once you get around 17-20psi or so on 93 you have to pull so much timing to stay away from DETO that you dont make anymore power.

What really helped me was the prototype intake manifold, it flows soooo much better than stock. If I remember right it was somewhere around 20 or so WHP but just bolting it on... without changing the tune.

curiosity orange, how far off is ur timing away from stock to run 19psi?

Originally posted by MEANSVTMISFIT
this is confusing me so you mean 15 on all stock regualr zetec engines and the svtf can handle 19.

15psi on a svt with all stock bottom end. 03orangesvt has diffrent rods according to tom thats why he can run 19psi and he has a diffrent intake manifold too

Originally posted by ouikikazz
curiosity orange, how far off is ur timing away from stock to run 19psi?

ALOT, actually me and leadfootS2 did some data logging today and under load at WOT it was some where between *edit*.... at least that what I think it said.. I could be wrong.

OOps, I shouldn't be posting this stuff... Sorry Tom... I didn't even think at the time.

why is everthing always a secret everyone always hush hush when it comes to there car
im not trying to be a dick just curious

Originally posted by 03OrangeSVT
As a rule of thumb......... 1psi = 10whp gained

does this only apply to the focus? just wondering where the rule of thumb comes from. also, Tom, you tune hondas or did you mean you use to tune hondas? if you do could we arrange something. im looking to up the boost from 7 to 10 psi. sorry to get off topic.

is orange svt running meth. kit because i have a svt and tom tuned it and said it isint safe past 10psi?

Originally posted by boosted svt
is orange svt running meth. kit because i have a svt and tom tuned it and said it isint safe past 10psi?

What FI do you have , Must be jrsc

Tom