: Low Dyno results only 350fwhp.
lourenco 11-27-2005, 04:09 PM http://www.svt-focus.com/dyno350.jpg
Dyno # 40 in blue is done at 17 psi, which has an okay tune.
Dyno #39 was done at higher boost. Dyno #39 the boost accidentally spiked up to 32psi , and the car lean out to 13:1 a/f ratio , as the car was not tuned to run at that high boost level. All hp results were on 93 octane.
Anything above 20 psi did not net any good increase in hp. The car did about 318fwhp at 20psi, and 330fwhp at 25psi. The hp at 6,800 rpms at 20 psi and 25 psi was the same. The J&S did not show any detonation.
I just notice today after datalogging with the xcal 2 that the vct is always a 0. I am thinking I need to reset the vct or do the vct delete. I did see a good hp loose with the vct disconnected on the dyno ,so it might just be install to far off or something.
Car has port& polished head, stock camshafts, stock valve train, FR intake manifold, and other mods listed in my signature.
Here is a link to the 32 psi dyno run. video 1 (http://www.svt-focus.com/video1.wmv)
Disconnecting the exhaust only added a few hp. Dyno not show for that run, but here is a video clip of how it sounded like. It looks like my 2.5 inch exhaust is okay for now. video2 (http://www.svt-focus.com/video2.wmv)
One of the lower psi dynos. video 3 (http://www.svt-focus.com/video3.wmv)
Here is a video of my car running about 19psi of boost. You can see it looses traction once the boost starts kicking in first gear, and it does not have much traction in 2nd for a few seconds. It does this at 17psi of boost now since I have tuned that boost level a little better now. video link (http://www.svt-focus.com/track2.wmv)
I am thinking either my car's vct is off alot or my car has valve float at the higher rpms since I am still using stock valve springs. Most zetec guys would of install crower springs and retainers while us svtf guys really don't have any options than doing something custom. I am going to try doing something with the vct first. If that does not work than the stiffer valve springs. Something is strange since the car made 350fwhp on 25psi before. I will post up something once I get my issues resolved. I am hoping for 370fwhp to 400fwhp once I dyno my car again with that strange issue resolved, but we will see.
Does everybody think the vct is killing my power? Any suggestions would be great.
dannybohhy 11-27-2005, 04:10 PM zoom
danworth 11-27-2005, 04:17 PM the speedo doesn't hang around does it!!!!
nice.
malconsSVT 11-27-2005, 04:35 PM haha i like it
dave tremblay 11-27-2005, 04:43 PM Totally addicting!
teddy2heavy 11-27-2005, 04:46 PM i wish mine was that low on the dyno
Logan175 11-27-2005, 04:48 PM i think goat should check this one out, but untill then Radical dude
Logan
1turbofocus 11-27-2005, 05:17 PM I dont think you have any valve float
Loose the VCT , The VCT cam gear can be very tricky to install and get right sometimes , Loose the VCT and go to an ADJ cam gear with our Elim , Adj the Exh on the dyno as well as the Int cam gear and i think you will see some improvement
Tom
lourenco 11-27-2005, 06:21 PM I will see if I can get the vct set correctly with what I have now. If it does not work out, I will be calling you Tom for that vct delete.
Domesticated Focus 11-27-2005, 06:25 PM hey lourenco... nice numbers and very nice dyno pull videos man!!! [thumb] [thumb]
JSSVT04 11-27-2005, 06:27 PM y would it make u loose power? Porche has been using them for yrs and they make well 600hp.. i just dont get it. just work with it, find a new to make more with it.
great #'s im glad someone got into 350 now
Goat Roper 11-27-2005, 06:41 PM Good numbers [thumb]
sleepyboy 11-27-2005, 07:06 PM good #'s I hope you squeez every drop of HP out it good luck.[hihi] [clap] [race] [wrenchin]
1turbofocus 11-27-2005, 08:34 PM Originally posted by JSSVT04
y would it make u loose power? Porche has been using them for yrs and they make well 600hp.. i just dont get it. just work with it, find a new to make more with it.
Why would it make you loose power ? Becaus the cams is out of time by either over ADV or over Ret
The Focus inst a Porche
Just work with IT ?, Just what is he to work with ? Do you even have a clue how the VCT works and if you take the gear off how to make 100% is back in VCT time
Originally posted by JSSVT04
great #'s im glad someone got into 350 now
Where have you been , Many have
Tom
PapoSwing 11-27-2005, 08:44 PM WOW speechless.... this is Tom's full kit?
1turbofocus 11-27-2005, 08:47 PM NO, This is his parts and pieces just my manifold , William made the piping and got his own turbo for this kit
Tom
lourenco 11-27-2005, 09:07 PM quote:
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Originally posted by JSSVT04
great #'s im glad someone got into 350 now
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Where have you been , Many have
Tom
I am thinking maybe he has not seen a svtf do that much hp on 93 octane yet. I personally don't remember seeing a dyno of 350fwhp on a svtf before on 93 octane, but there are other regular zetec guys that are doing that. I can probably get more out hp out of the engine on 93 octane once I get this vct issue resolved.
1turbofocus 11-27-2005, 09:51 PM I think you can as well
Tom
JSSVT04 11-28-2005, 06:28 AM Originally posted by 1turbofocus
The Focus inst a Porche
Tom
[?|] damn it! i thought it was.
ok tom have you made 350 on any of your svtf? with your custom(t3)
but anyway good work. 2 thumbs up here
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1turbofocus 11-28-2005, 07:43 AM What William has done is GREAT work no doubt
No my STD Custom turbo that comes in the kit wont reach 350 at the wheels finalley has doen the most with 340 at the wheels , to do more with my kit just a larger turbo will need to be added
I can think of 6 that are over 350 2 of them well over 350 and none are my cars and over 30 over 300
Congrats again to William i know he has been working hard to get it there
Tom
JSSVT04 11-28-2005, 07:52 AM are those built motors?
Logan175 11-28-2005, 07:55 AM great job,
How many hours of labor and how much money did it take to make that?
Logan
PapoSwing 11-28-2005, 06:30 PM ^^^ I'm with him
PapoSwing 11-28-2005, 06:54 PM Also, how is the reliability of these kits at such high hp and tq? And are they smooth and liveable during daily driving?
lourenco 11-28-2005, 07:35 PM Originally posted by PapoSwing
Also, how is the reliability of these kits at such high hp and tq? And are they smooth and liveable during daily driving?
Everything is working fine in my car, but I changed out any parts that might cause any problems like the differential, clutch , flyhweel, and intake manifold. I did not change out the stock intake manifold until I decided to go over 17psi of boost. The car does not make 350fwhp all the time unless I have the boost controller up that high. I usually have the boost set at 17psi. When I driving from and to work, I usually drive without getting into to that much boost. The only time I might get into full boost is when I decide to floor it when I am going up the acceleration ramp onto the express way. How much boost the car gets into can be easily controlled by the throttle and the boost controller in my car.
I took a ride around in Tom's black svtf. It had a nice driveable power. It was smooth for me. When I took a ride in his car, I knew I made the right choice.
lourenco 11-28-2005, 07:50 PM Originally posted by Logan175
great job,
How many hours of labor and how much money did it take to make that?
Logan
I am not sure how much money it would take a regular person to do what I did. I get big discounts than normal on my parts, which is not normal. I also install most of the parts myself, and I tuned the car myself. I did not have to pay for most of the dyno sessions.
03OrangeSVT car did 330fwhp on 93 octane. It might be possible to for his car to make 350fwhp on 110 octane if someone wants to get results done for a much lower price. I am not sure how long the stock engine would last making 350fwhp. I personally spent the extra money on a built engine to do 400fwhp on 93 octane safely, but I don't think making 400fwhp is for eveybody.
I think most people would be happy with 300fwhp, which can be done with a turbo kit, vortech kit , or procharger kit without spending that much money than the kit price.
If the 03 cobra was out when I was buying my focus , I would probably of bought that instead and be making 600rwhp now with that. I still see the svtf as a different car. I don't see that many svtf guys doing 350fwhp or my hp goal of 400fwhp, which is not that easily compared to the 03 cobra.
jboylan 11-28-2005, 08:06 PM A 600fwhp cobra would be pandemonium, to say the least.
blackandgold 11-28-2005, 08:08 PM Originally posted by jboylan
A 600fwhp cobra would be pandemonium, to say the least.
Indeed
Tekin112 11-29-2005, 05:41 AM Originally posted by blackandgold
Indeed
not really, its very common in these woods, central flordia sets the bar for high power cars on 93.
jeffs focus 380whp
william 350whp
my pos 290whp
justin high 200
and tampa stock cobras run around with 650-750 on pump gas.
05WhiteZX3 11-29-2005, 06:16 AM Originally posted by Tekin112
and tampa stock cobras run around with 650-750 on pump gas.
[???:)] [confused] [???:)] [confused] [???:)]
would like to know where you are getting a STOCK cobra with 650-750 on pump gas
JSSVT04 11-29-2005, 06:46 AM there all over down here. we call them tampa stock. believe us there alot. i can count 5 in just my area that close to the 700 mark.
i hope you make the 400. i was looking around that range too. good luck. i have idea for ya. pm me, i may help you out with something.
blackandgold 11-29-2005, 07:13 AM Originally posted by Tekin112
not really, its very common in these woods, central flordia sets the bar for high power cars on 93.
jeffs focus 380whp
william 350whp
my pos 290whp
justin high 200
and tampa stock cobras run around with 650-750 on pump gas.
Apparantly you missed the joke....600 Front wheel horsepower on a Cobra...think about it.
1turbofocus 11-29-2005, 07:45 AM Originally posted by Tekin112
not really, its very common in these woods, central flordia sets the bar for high power cars on 93.
jeffs focus 380whp
william 350whp
my pos 290whp
justin high 200
and tampa stock cobras run around with 650-750 on pump gas.
Tenkin those are all built low compression engines also , Try 10.2 compression ALL STOCK SVT 329HP and doing it daily
Also wish the dyno jet went higher this is what we have to put up with here in red neck country 1200HP Viper (it makes more but dyno wont read higher) and yes on pump 93 , 6 to 800 HP engines here common as dirt also
I dont know that FL sets the bar , I stopped posting dynos less than 400HP a long time ago and have many on 93 doing it , Why is it people assume i dont or cant tune for 93 or even 91 octane , i have 2 over 300 on 91 octane
Tom
1turbofocus 11-29-2005, 08:10 AM You guys are more than welcome to come to the VIR event and show off you rides next year nothing wrong with a little friendly competition on the track and there isnt any rules or people bothering you as long as you uses safety and common sence
I have been there 5 years now and keep waiting for some one with one of these fast Foci to show up other than my guys , Where have all these guys been that are now so wild and crazy about going to the "shoot out" "showcase" talked about on FJ ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
Tom
Tom
fokuzx3 11-29-2005, 08:19 AM so your engine is built w/ low compression pistons? what about the oil pump, did you have to change that out too...seems like on a daily driving basis, no need for more than 5psi, if i had a turbo thats all i would do then jump the boost when i want
JSSVT04 11-29-2005, 08:52 AM Originally posted by 1turbofocus
Tenkin those are all built low compression engines also , Try 10.2 compression ALL STOCK SVT 329HP and doing it daily
Also wish the dyno jet went higher this is what we have to put up with here in red neck country 1200HP Viper (it makes more but dyno wont read higher) and yes on pump 93 , 6 to 800 HP engines here common as dirt also
I dont know that FL sets the bar , I stopped posting dynos less than 400HP a long time ago and have many on 93 doing it , Why is it people assume i dont or cant tune for 93 or even 91 octane , i have 2 over 300 on 91 octane
Tom
lol not bad but lets not turn this onto a cock fight. b\c there alway someone with more hp. still doesnt beat marko supra 3.0 liter putting down 1520, w\ full interior, a\c, still gets 20+ mpg, and nothing that is stock liter makes those numbers.
also orangesvt wasnt on ur manifold. one thing dont buy anything from them (sfp.net) they suck. i have been fighten w\ them for months now. i'll post up there work it is grrreeattt work.
Honda Hunter 11-30-2005, 08:57 AM 32 psi and only 350 hp?
What static compression are you running?
w00w00 11-30-2005, 09:19 AM 8.65:1, in his sig
very nice job lourenco. i like that you keep progressing on this car, pushing for more.
w00w00 11-30-2005, 09:26 AM Originally posted by JSSVT04
also orangesvt wasnt on ur manifold. one thing dont buy anything from them (sfp.net) they suck. i have been fighten w\ them for months now. i'll post up there work it is grrreeattt work.
more info?
lourenco 11-30-2005, 11:22 AM Originally posted by Honda Hunter
32 psi and only 350 hp?
Ya, only 350fwhp on 32psi is not that great, but I am currently trying to still fix out the bugs on the car. It made 350fwhp before at lower boost, so something is having problems now on the car. I have engine codes for the vct and the cam position sensor, so I am thinking one of those are causing the hp loss.
350fwhp was also at about 6,000 rpms. I am hoping once the problems are fixed and once I tune it for the higher boost 30psi, that it will have the hp increasing till 7,000 rpms like the 17psi dyno. Maybe 370fwhp to 400fwhp at 7,000rpms on 30psi of boost , but we will see what happens.
blanezx3 11-30-2005, 11:58 AM Originally posted by 1turbofocus
Also wish the dyno jet went higher this is what we have to put up with here in red neck country 1200HP Viper (it makes more but dyno wont read higher) and yes on pump 93 , 6 to 800 HP engines here common as dirt also
Tom
Damn right!! High hp v8's are pretty common here. My bud Steve has a s/c cobra that was pushing 722whp. Before that he had a blown 347 in an 89 LX which was pushing way beyond what the cobra does. Now he's going 5.4s/c which should be a f'n beast.
Great numbers lourenco! Keep us posted about the vct issue
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