I'm fixing to get an ORP for my SVTF [:D] and have a quick question....will the ORP make my exhaust smell differently? I would think so, but not 100% sure. Anyone with one let me know.

As for the people who want to complain that my car "will polute like 25 cars", I don't drive my focus everyday...maybe only two times a week.

Like butt... [:D] A cop could tell really easily if you've done something as serious as taking out the Cat... easy write-up for him. And they sound like fart anyways... get a HFC!

It's going to smell alot different, lol. But hey, if you don't have intelligent cops in your area, go for it! [:D] I don't have money for a ticket right now eventhough our cops are complete idiots. Plus I don't wanna lose any low end torque. If it wasn't for that, I'd be running one, I don't care about the environment, lol [:D]

With the ORP the exhaust fumes will be very strong, enough to burn your eyes a little when you stand back there and enough to be noticed by cars that are around you at a light (cops). That's probably my biggest complaint with the ORP is the fumage. I roll with my windows down most of the time and at a light it smelled horrible. Great piece for the track where a super rich smelling exhaust can be appreciated as a sign of performance but for daily driving, no thanks.

C'mon Chuck, you know you wish your B.O. smelled like ORP Exhaust fumes! [:D]

Originally posted by svt_gEEk
I don't wanna lose any low end torque. If it wasn't for that, I'd be running one, I don't care about the environment, lol [:D]

[giggle] [rofl] I live in Alabama and the cops here don't care about that kind of stuff. I don't drive it everyday anyways. The smell thing is getting to me though. I plan on setting the car up to be street/strip...getting nitrous here in the next month or so [burnout] , so I might just get the ORP anyways, but am still 100% unsure about it.

Keep the comments coming.

Yeah, them AL cops suck [:D] they're about the same as the ones in MS, lol. It would be a good smell to me because I love that performance smell [:D] lol

Originally posted by Svtzx555
I'm fixing to get an ORP for my SVTF [:D] and have a quick question....will the ORP make my exhaust smell differently? I would think so, but not 100% sure. Anyone with one let me know.

As for the people who want to complain that my car "will polute like 25 cars", I don't drive my focus everyday...maybe only two times a week.

Yes to the question Rich unburnt fuel smel.

On the statment about polution. I think it would depend on the 25 cars. Maybee 25 Toyota Prius or 1 Fords Excursion hauling a 100 lb woman and a ten pound pocketbook.

Well SVTMonkey seems to think that removing the cat off one car polutes like 25 other ones....whatever. If one person drives an Excursion daily, I can drive my focus a few times a week with no cat.

I really do want one, but don't know if the little hp is worth the rich smell of fuel.

i love that smell. we race 600cc microsprints. the smell of the track and all the alcohol cars is just fantastic. try standing behind an alcohol car and smell the exhaust. it will burn your eyes real quick, and i love it!!! but to stay on subject, im def. wanting to get the ORP as soon as my taxes get back. with the ORP comes SCT and TB

So I think I'm going to order one tonight and if I end up not liking it, I'll just sell it on Ebay. Thanks for the responses!

It's a great part, don't get me wrong. I still have mine although I use it only for the track. They are easy enough to switch out.

Originally posted by mountandriver
Yes to the question Rich unburnt fuel smel.

On the statment about polution. I think it would depend on the 25 cars. Maybee 25 Toyota Prius or 1 Fords Excursion hauling a 100 lb woman and a ten pound pocketbook.


if the orp is producing a rich unburnt fuel smell, dont you think somethings screwed with your car?
if its doing it there its doing it to the cat too and its only a matter of time before the cat is gone from being plugged...

Good point! My car ended up running way too rich which could have been why it smelled so bad but I wasn't getting a CEL back then when I ran the ORP.

The inside of the Catylitic converter has a Honycome type of metal inside somwhat like Coragated cardboard it gets hot and burns unburned fuel and polutants. Without the catylist inside the exhaust gases just cool down and out they go that's the difference in the smell.

If you have bad plugs it is worse,.. becouse of more unburned fuel and the 1st/upstream oxygen sensor makes a huge difference also I have changed both and it still has a much richer smell running in top condition.

New plugs and O2 sensor do help. I wonder how much difference a custom tune like from Tom or Wayne would make since they could adjust your fuel air ratio just right for your car,I think it'd probably be quite an improvment about taking care of the rich unburned fuel

Originally posted by Svtzx555
Well SVTMonkey seems to think that removing the cat off one car polutes like 25 other ones....whatever. If one person drives an Excursion daily, I can drive my focus a few times a week with no cat.

I really do want one, but don't know if the little hp is worth the rich smell of fuel.

You're right, because all that research YOU did to prove me wrong is just so convincing. When you've taken graduate level engineering courses on combustion engines and done months of research into tampering of vehicles (i.e. removing cats) then come make some arguments. What do you think that smell is from? Besides, your argument that you only drive 2 times a week makes no sense. So anyone that drives less than 2 times a week doesn't have to abide by any laws? Oh, and at the levels that you will pollute, it will be equivalent to you driving 40 times a week anyways.

On a milder note, keep in mind that you'll be breaking a federal law worth a $2500 ticket. And the dealership can void your entire warranty if they find out you removed the cat.

So, a few hp for all that? Think about it.

Originally posted by SVTmonkey
You're right, because all that research YOU did to prove me wrong is just so convincing. When you've taken graduate level engineering courses on combustion engines and done months of research into tampering of vehicles (i.e. removing cats) then come make some arguments.

Besides, your argument that you only drive 2 times a week makes no sense. So anyone that drives less than 2 times a week doesn't have to abide by any laws? Oh, and at the levels that you will pollute, it will be equivalent to you driving 40 times a week anyways.

On a milder note, keep in mind that you'll be breaking a federal law worth a $2500 ticket. And the dealership can void your entire warranty if they find out you removed the cat.

So, a few hp for all that? Think about it.

[rofl]

First, we all need to get one thing straight....I have never claimed to have done any research like you say I have. I'm not trying to prove anyone wrong about anything. I haven't taken any grad level courses on anything or "researched into tampering of vehicles" and don't care to. I'm not trying to make any argument with anyone.

Secondly, if someone can drive an 86 Buick Regal daily that blows white smoke or something equally crappy, I see no problem with my focus without a cat a few times a week. It's not that I think the laws don't apply to me because I drive it only a few times a week, it's just that I don't care. [thumb] Pretty much the same way as my illegal window tint.

If it is going to pollute like I'm driving it 40 times a week, why aren't you bitching about all the Excursions, Suburbans, Escalades, that ARE driving around 40 times a week?!

Blah, blah, blah, about voiding the warranty. In case you haven't read my signature, I'm a mechanic [wrenchin] at a Ford dealership and know how it all works and how to get by voiding the warranty. [:D] [bootyshak [neener]

But then again, I still don't know 100% if I'm even going to get an ORP. I might go hi-flow.

Now, are we all clear on that SVTMonkey?! [thumb]

Yeah, you can definately tell the difference with the cat off. I wouldn't say it stinks, but the odor is more pronounced for sure.

A little off topic...
Has anyone read 'State of Fear' by Michael Crichton? It's a story about the fallacies in the global warming theory; mixed in with a terrorist plot carried out by ELF members. ;) A good read for those who think that global warming is a proven fact, just because the media tells us it is.

so would y'all agree that putting an ORP on the SVT will decrease TQ but increase high-end HP? is that basically the deal?

also, anyone on here w/ an ORP, do you enjoy having it? is it worth it? i just ordered mine yesterday so that's why i ask.

I Just ordered a ORP for my 04 SVT, does anyone have a soundclip of an orp on the svt?[???:)]?? I Dont want the Ricey sound, so thanks for the help!

If you run it on the street....you just bought the ricey sound [thumb]

I Dont want the Ricey sound, so thanks for the help!
I must agree with LastRites.
ORP and stock exhaust equals....horrid sound.

I'm not sure about sound clips, but if you search for ORP,
you'll see that people either took the ORP back out, or got a different cat-back system to compliment it.

Edit:
There's a clip right here...>>>Clicky (http://focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?postid=760746&#post760746)

here's a vid of my old ZX3 w/ FocusSport race header and flexpipe. it's not the SVT but maybe it'll give you a little taste:

http://www.h00kup.com/crank.mov

the clip doesnt really do it too much justice. i actually liked the sound. it was most raspy around 3-4k RPM but if you took it up higher then the raspy went away and it really made a scary, throaty noise. i actually got a compliment by this one dude driving a Jaguar XJ8, or whichever the big sedans are. he thought i had a lot more engine work done (thanks to my friend BS'ing him) but def thought it sounded mean.

yeah i have a 03 2-door svt with borla catback and a FC ORP and i enjoy the sound and as for the smell it is noticeable when u first start your car and it idles higher but once the car warms up and i am a stop light i can have the windows down and really not notice a smell and also for the worry about cops smellin it if u get pulled over why wouldn't u shut off your car anyways....well hope that helps

one question if the oxy sensors are workin right, then you should not have a rich smell to your exaust right???
this is what i think but then again i dont have my ORP on my car yet not till friday.

The cheater on the second sensor tells the comp that all is well despite what is actually going out the pipe.

^^ [lmfao]

sounds like a bathroom incident.


anyways, I think the difference between the ORP and a HighFlo cat is just a few HP. Think that if I come to this point, I would opt for the cat...just my 2 cents. (that and a token will get you on the bus)

Get the random tech cat. It makes a huge difference and im guessing almost as good as the off road pipe. Not to mention its a lot more enviromental friendly. Ohh and its not against the law to use 100% of the time.

Yeah, RT is about $350 for the SVT and ORP is about $130....

I know...legal issues, but I don't drive it everyday...maybe two or three times a week and thats usually to the drags. Still don't know what to do.

Legal, enviromental, and money issues..