: Any JRSC SVT owners in here?
Clegg 10-04-2005, 11:48 PM I just realized that a JRSC is actually 1/2 the cost of the Powerworks kit (2600 vs 5000) and makes still a bit over 200 Hp to the wheels which is reasonable to me for that cost.
I am wondering how many have done this, and what they thought of the SVT specific kit. I've read lotsa bout the Zetec folks, but I am looking for SVT specific info here.
Clegg 10-05-2005, 07:50 AM I dont think its that simple :)
1. you would need to fab a new bracket since you would have teh S/C sit higher.
2. where would you find an aftercooler small enough to slip inbetween the S/C and the runners? you also need to make sure its not too intrusive so it doesnt create too much back pressure on the S/C.
3. Then you would need to get the water pump, front radiator, resevoir, etc... I think in the end to add cooling you would add another 800 - 1000$ price onto the JRSC, and it probably wouldnt work nearly as good as the PW aftercooler.
3. engine tuning I believe is far better on the PW setup than it is on the JRSC thats where they get a fair portion of their performance from (AFAIK).
microtonal 10-05-2005, 08:53 AM He said 'cooling' but didn't say anything about an intercooler.
With a smaller pully, like the BBK(Comes with tuning from JR/FR) and some water/meth injection, you can get some decent numbers for less than $3500.
I also believe that they will be coming out with an SVTF JRSC+BBK as a complete kit for around $3000. This will come with tuning.
SVT_BMXer 10-05-2005, 09:00 AM i have a JRSC on my car, i love it. I couldnt justify spending almost twice as much for not awhole lot more gain for the powerworks, or even the vortech kic which cost still about $2K more. I am currently running the JRSC, with an intake and no tunning [paranoid] (for now that is) and i love it, makes a huge difference in the low end. Currently saving for the BBK and tuning right now. My car made just a hair under 200hp at the wheels.
morewood98 10-05-2005, 02:35 PM I've got the BBK for the SVT, and runnign about peak 215whp and 170wtq. Its quite a ride. The tq curve is very flat all the way across the board... its a nice ride. If ya got any questions, I can help ya out.
AdrenalineSVT 10-05-2005, 05:23 PM ^^^ I am frequently in Baltimore... I'd like to check your car out sometime... Sounds like it is awesome!
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Any JRSC SVT owners in here?
Yes, and they're in the "Forced Induction Chat" forums...[;)]
Clegg 10-05-2005, 06:11 PM because asking an SVT specific question would never have any use in an SVT forum...
SVT Performance Chat:
"The place to chat about any SVT or European ST engine performance and exhaust related upgrades."
Forced Induction Chat:
"Discuss turbocharging, supercharging or adding Nitrous to your engine."
You've also got SVT in your title, which helps narrow down the response.
FWIW, there's tons of threads in the FI chat pertaining to the SVT with JRSC.
Dathlok X 10-05-2005, 06:33 PM 215whp and 170wtq
Well the extra money of the PW is for the extra 30 HP & 40 torque aint it?
I think it would be a little tough to make a cooler like thiers yourself. But if you can pull it off then by all means go for it.
I wish they would just go aheand and put out the frikkin whp numbers on the pw. Also I keep hearing PW is doing a BBK for their kit too... gonna put out a few more psi.
fokuzx3 10-05-2005, 06:46 PM bbk+methanol injection+smaller pulley= [thumb]
jwheels54 10-05-2005, 06:56 PM i will have my powerworks kit on tommorow and i done a lot of the installing with the help from catmostfeared let me tell you now that you will never achieve the same hp of the powerworks kit does safely for the same price you would have to buy so many parts that the jrsc don't have such as brakets and mounts hoses lines and such plus your forgeting the intercooler and bbk tb but if you want to try it by all means go ahead but pw put a lot of effort in developing this kit and for just anyone to try and finish the kit themselves i think would be crazy cause there is a lot of things that the powerworks kit includes that you may not realize one such thing is an oil relocater kit i duno if jrsc has that or not but im just saying. But if you try it let us know how it turns out
denzillion 10-05-2005, 07:17 PM How much is for installation for JRSC? I'm wanting to put on in my SVTF after fixing my freaking wheel bearing..
Clegg 10-05-2005, 07:42 PM from what I read in their instructions both the JRSC and the PowerWorks are user isntallable. Neither look to require much hackery or anything like that. A few jack stands and a few nights of work looks like thats all it takes.
but I could be very wrong with this.
I heard the Procharger is a total bitch to install though.
SVT_BMXer 10-05-2005, 07:55 PM Originally posted by denzillion
How much is for installation for JRSC? I'm wanting to put on in my SVTF after fixing my freaking wheel bearing..
i payed about 500-600$ for my install.
denzillion 10-05-2005, 08:15 PM Thanks!
microtonal 10-05-2005, 08:47 PM I have a Jackson Racing certified installer in my area and they quoted about $100+ an hour and they said it would take 1.5 times what the install recommend for time.
JR says 8 hours so they say 12 hours.
No thanks. I'll pay myself $1200 to install the SC myself.
From what I've seen posted by people who have installed them, it's pretty straight forward if you follow the instructions and have all necessary tools.
morewood98 10-05-2005, 11:42 PM Originally posted by jwheels54
i will have my powerworks kit on tommorow and i done a lot of the installing with the help from catmostfeared let me tell you now that you will never achieve the same hp of the powerworks kit does safely for the same price you would have to buy so many parts that the jrsc don't have such as brakets and mounts hoses lines and such plus your forgeting the intercooler and bbk tb but if you want to try it by all means go ahead but pw put a lot of effort in developing this kit and for just anyone to try and finish the kit themselves i think would be crazy cause there is a lot of things that the powerworks kit includes that you may not realize one such thing is an oil relocater kit i duno if jrsc has that or not but im just saying. But if you try it let us know how it turns out
Well I'm not going to argue one is better than the other, but get some stuff strait.
For what you pay for the JRSC SVT with BBK shoudl cost under 3k and for what power you get, its great deal. And they also put their time in and did research and have a very good tune that it came with.
Secondly, you metion it came with an oil relocator kit, only reason that kit has that, is because the blower is in the way of the oil filter so they had to move it. That the same with the JRSC, you have to relocate the power steering because the blower will be in the way. That doesnt mean the kit is any better.
The only real differece i see is the intercooler. The TB probalby wont get you a whole lot more power, Their are peopel out there with the JRSC with the 3in pully with the bigger TB, and it has some increase, but not a ton.
Dont get me wrong, I'm not saying one is better than the other, its just another optoin out there for the SVTF. They both have theri pros and cons, just all depends what you are looking for. I've been driving the JRSC SVT BBK since April, and I coudlnt be happier with it.
jwheels54 10-06-2005, 08:26 AM hey man i wouldn't saying mine is any better than the jrsc however it was asked if you could buy a jrsc and build a powerworks kit out of it and yes you could im just saying it would be more difficult, time consuming and less feesable than they were talking and with powerworks havin there blower located where it is and haven a longer intake manifold it produces more low in torque but i was just trying to say that if you were gonna try something like that i think you would be better off paying the extra to get the powerworks i have nothing against the jrsc it is a safe unit with good power for the money i was gonna get one until i seen the pw kit on focal jet and then done some more research and then decided to go with it. but again don't get me wrong i wasnt in here trying to say mine was better than yours i was just saying for what was being talked about doing with the jrsc i personally don't see it as a smart option
microtonal 10-06-2005, 08:54 AM Originally posted by jwheels54
hey man i wouldn't saying mine is any better than the jrsc however it was asked if you could buy a jrsc and build a powerworks kit out of it
I must of missed this somewhere because I didn't see anyone asking how to make the SVTF JRSC into a Powerworks. Frush mentioned that with some cooling you could make one but I never seen anyone ask how to convert or build up a SVTF upto PowerWorks specifications.
With some tuning, water/meth injection and maybe other bolt ons, you could possibly get power near the Powerworks for around $3500.
faultlessfocus 10-06-2005, 11:53 PM Just to let you and everyone else know, the Powerworks utilizes the exact same blower as the JRSC, an Eaton M62, just the Powerworks includes cooling and a smaller pulley. So basically you can buy a JRSC and make your own Powerworks with some cooling and a smaller pulley for a lot less money.
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