For about $5k which would give me more power turbo or a super?? I want my SVT Focus to be able to hang with the SRT-4 and WRX (not sti) Think its possible for 5k?

Turbo 100pound foot more TQ and this is what will kick the SRT4`s butt

Tom

Hmmm How much would that cost for the turbo and everything needed to be done to it?

The kit runs 5800.00 and the rest depends on if you want to install it want a BOV and what kind of boost controller and boost gauge you want ,,With all the good stuff about 6500.00

Tom

I guess I better start saving my pennies.

That seems pricey.

The precsion turbo kit is $3900, and there is an article about it in Focus Fanatic. IMO, that is the best choice.

The precision turbo kit isn't tried and true, who has one? If they are great then folks would have them right? Not saying they are bad, I am saying don't tell someone that it is the best choice when you have no verifiable proof.

Toms kit is expensive but with him your getting more than a box of parts. Your getting someone who has spent their personal time and effort in making and perfecting his product. You are also getting a manufacturer who stands by his product and is there to give tech support at anytime. Try to call vortech or precision and get a straight answer, just not gonna happen the first time. You call tom, you talk to the guy with all the info right off the bat!

s2dude,,QUOTE,, The precsion turbo kit is $3900, and there is an article about it in Focus Fanatic. IMO, that is the best choice.


Why do you say this and what are you going to do about tuning

Tom

Tom may have the know how and such...but I think that $6500 price tag needs to be re-evaluated.

I can't imagine spending that much for a turbo setup.

His kit is hand made, no one complains when a ferrari which is hand made costs $ 500,000, yea half a mil for parts, right.

If he was gonna starve b/c his kit was too expensive then I think he would lower the price.

I complain about the Ferrari, I want one for 10k.

You know what is just insane, the engine in the enzo cost $200,000+[ohcrap]

I could build one out of toothpicks and silly putty for less.

you could put a V8 mid mounted putting out the same power as the enzo in your focus, make it AWD, and have the body be made completely out of carbon fiber for less, or it least close to the same price of just the engine of the enzo.


Damn that would be a sweet ride.

That would be sweet I think I may have to just go with the Vortech if I do decide to spend this much the Vortech s/c puts out a good amount of power for what your paying I would love to have the turbo but its way to expensive 5k would break my walt enough can't spend another $1,800

Power yes ,Every one always looks at the power ,Its NOT the power that you feel its the TQ ,Look at the TQ where is it at on the jrsc or the Vortech LOW,LOW,LOW ,My turbo kit make 100+more TQ at almost every RPM

You cant take the 1800.00 you saved and buy anything that will give you the TQ and HP that my kit will do for less time and less trouble

If the Vortech is they way you have to go i have about the best deal on them anywhere also

Tom

the turbo ur talkin about sounds great just gotta make sure he doesnt over do it with boost and blow the engine not sure what boost that turbo runs but i know turbos will make more overall and the lag isnt much of an issue bc the turbos power makes up for it.so if u want the most i would go turbo,just be sure u got the engine strong enough for the turbo u want.and if u wanna really go at it with an srt-4 and wrx then turbo might be the only good way to go about that.just make sure u dont go a warranty also bc from what ford told me forced induction is an automatic voiding off the entire warranty too.

Tom,

Would your kit work on a stock SVT bottom end? I'd love to get that kind of power out of my car, but for that kind of money, I should just trade in my SVT for a WRX or a used STI (in a few years). Cuz, in the end, the SVT will make the power, but the WRX will still be AWD. Also, what are you official thoughts on the Vortech kit? Don't think I've heard your opinion yet...

Thanks.

Is Toms price including instalation or not?

Yes good point does the kit price include installation and i know it says its supposed to be in house tunned but I live in Texas which is another big problem for me.

and tom what kind of numbers does this kit put out at around 9psi on focus-power it says 239whp @ 9psi but how much torque gain??

bump, i would like to know the install cost as well?

hmmm i didn't take into consideration that the turbo had that much torque if put a few more things on it to get the hp and about the same amount as the torque it would be ready to destroy some real cars
For $6,800 what kind of boost controller would i get??
and what the highest psi youve run the SVT Focus on?

The SVT kit runs 5800.00 what boost controller you get is up to you

I have run the SVT at 18PSI = 325HP and 331 TQ at the wheels that is about 2 times the TQ any blower will give you

Tom

i would like the turbo buts it way to expensive i will prob go with the vortech
Is your turbo even street legal???

Define street legal,, It keeps the cat on the SVT and i have a legal inspection sticker

Tom

Fact in point without spending as much as toms kit, the vortech won't ever pump out as much hp or torque.

One of the things that comes with age is wisdom...I think you get what you pay for!!. Just read my sig at the bottom

I know this is something that a person can only decide for themselves, but would a person in thier right mind do this while still under warranty. Especially if it was a 5 year warranty. I would like to do this, but boy could I ever make an expensive mistake.

Im seriously looking at forced induction and the fact that I can just run it at 9psi and scare the kid in the WRX will be awsome if i turned up the boost level i could do some real racing

Did you see the VID i posted

Tom

So youre Kit Tom is inspection and emission passable.....Like in VA for example?


Peace....

if i had the money i would go with tom's turbo kit, lots of power and his shop is 2 minutes from me ;)

how do u put 18psi on a 10:2:1 compression motor isnt that pusning it a lil

Not with the proper fuel and tuning

Tom

Originally posted by ANUBIS
how do u put 18psi on a 10:2:1 compression motor isnt that pusning it a lil

Yeah I second that how is that possible without changing any of the internals, seems to me anything above 11lbs on a 10:2:1 setup would be asking for all kinds problems even with fuel management and a proper tune, would you be willing to explain that in more depth?

You know the Lancer Evo runs 19psi on its turbo stock thats why its so fast

Hmmm im gonna start saving my money and i think some forced induction might just be coming in my near future

Tom I live in Texas this is my biggest problem with your kit I would have to drive to NC or have the car shipped ethier way expensive and inpractical

Seb656,,Why you cant install it your self

With proper fuel and proper tuning it would be no problem to run 16 to 1 and 60 PSI boost ,Compression is not the problem tuning it with the proper fuel for what you are trying to do is key

Tom

I wouldn't have any clue how to install a turbo I know about cars but I don't have enough faith in myself to work on my own

There are a few turbo focus guys in the area that could help you out ,I can hook you up with

Tom

I WOULD DEFINITLY GO WITH TOM, YOUR NOT JUST BUYING HIS PRODUCT YOUR BUYING THE PRODUCT OF THE PRODUCT. LIKE THE KID WHO WANTS BRACES. HE DOESNT REALLY WANT BRACES, HE WANTS STRAIGHT TEETH!

HE KNOWS HIS STUFF.

Woah jetbill hit that Caps button on the left side........you are welling.........


Peace....

If I can get the $$ it will definatly get it its gonna take me awhile to get that much but I am gonna start saving every penny so I can get it

if its only proper tuning for our 10 1 compression ratio how come all the bad ass turbo cars have low compression ratios like the srt 4 evo and sti i mean the r32 golf that comes out well there is one already all juiced up but hay ther even lowerd its compression ratio from 11 1 to 8 1 why is that?

He isn't saying lower CR isn't better, he is saying that the tune makes running a given CR and turbo possible.

Those other car have lower CR and run big boost, that is how they make their power.

he also said he can run 18 psi on the svt now if you dont balance the air and fuel ratio you will run to lean or to rich and when you run to lean you burn your pistons most reasons why people burn there motors with nos cuz it acts like an oxidizer so it burns to lean now with that much air being forced its to lean and if u tune your engine and balance it to wear it can handle all that air and fuel then were are you going to fit all that fuel and air in a small 10:2:1 combustion chamber? someone said that the evo runs 19 psi yeah it does but it has the proper fuel and air mixture not to burn pistons and it has room in the 8 to 1 compression to fit all that air and fuel i mean you can even lower your compression by porting and polishing your head is that maybe what tom did to run 18 psi is port n polish and use a low compression head gasket? how was he able to run that amount of psi and not blow his motor or was it just like a lil test he put the svt thru cuz i could see the svt maybe handleing it for a lil while but not for long periods of time like the evo? i just want to know cuz ide like to have a turbo and if his is the best then hey im sold to tom but i just want to know how he did the 18 osi thing

why ppl still arguye w/ Tom ill never know, hes done it and its been done, its like going to God and saying "God, you cant make the grand canyon that big because......."

I don't doubt Tom has run it that high but even if you got his turbo why would you wanna run it that high? On an every day basis that is incredible amount of power which is not needed persoanlly I'd keep the turbo set at a lower psi then just have an electronic boost controller so that if I wanted I could easily turn it up a notch for racing

Anubis he has answered your question before and now has done it again.

Hey Tom, what octane did you have to use to run the svt at 18psi?

I had 110 Oct in it at that time

Tom

What are the best numbers you can get on 93 octane?

220 to 230 HP and 230 to 240 TQ

Tom

Where can you get 110 Octane fuel from?

at the track.

well i must say tom, you have made me a believer!!! i was originally going for the vortech kit, but i think i'll be paying your shop a visit, the crappy part is, i wont get transfered to norfolk (Navy) for another year, so i have to wait, cause i can't get away from work long enough to bring it down, and i only want YOU workin under the hood!!!!!!!