I've been looking into buying an intake for my svt. Originally I was thinking about an AEM CAI but have heard of them causing some cold start and stalling problems. So I was wondering if the volant intake be used on the svt if you don't use the section of the intake going between the MAF and TB that it comes with. If that wouldnt work, what is a good option for a CAI?
01-04-2004, 05:22 PM
I have a AEM CAI and I dont have any problems with cold start and stalling.
01-04-2004, 06:23 PM
hmm ive never heard of problesm with the AEM CAI but if u say so
I had thought I had read about people having some problems with the AEM on this site so I just wanted to ask around before I ordered one
01-04-2004, 11:15 PM
Where can u get a CAI for the svt for cheap??
I've found the aem for $250, thats why I'm asking about it
01-05-2004, 04:55 AM
250 isnt all that cheap, and yes there are ppl who have claimed to have this problem, cant say iv ever witnessed it though
01-05-2004, 10:52 AM
its a bad design. im awaiting my new steeda to replace it. it sucks enough oil at high rpm's to make the mass air and tp puke. i know too well. twice this year it ruined a race weekend for me. the placement of the vacuum hose means it sucks oil thru your tp and maff. even with me making a catch can w/k&n filter its been a problem. also water and dirt ingestion. there is a long thread over in the svt forum on fj. check it out. btw, i know of one that will be for sale cheap soon. mine.
garyk, after looking at the thread on fj I think I'll stay away from the aem, looks like way too much of a pain to deal with.
01-05-2004, 12:51 PM
yes, i only bought mine because at the time of purchase it was the only one available. there's nothing quite like towing the car 5 hours to a track and the aem causing me enough problems to cause me to have to load car back up. i was hot.
do you know if the volant intake will work with the svt? The only one I've seen looks like its for the standard ztec not the svt. I'm new to the focus so I'm not sure what parts will work with the different engin setups.
01-05-2004, 01:09 PM
When I purchased mine it was the only CAI available at the time. I've not had any problems, but I dont road race like you. I've heard about the Steeda, how much does it cost?
01-05-2004, 02:20 PM
Does the Steeda show good results ?? Haven't heard to much about it. Anyone else on here got an intake upgrade if so what kind and how good is it? ( I will start working in the next week or two so I will have some money to play around with and my first upgrade will be an exhaust)
01-05-2004, 03:17 PM
they are quoting 7 hp. mine is finally shipping tomorrow. ill let you know how seat of the pants comparison goes.
01-05-2004, 06:32 PM
Please do i am depending on the feedback i get it will help me make the decision of what brand to buy
01-06-2004, 09:40 AM
sorry forgot to mention price. steeda is 150 which i thought was reasonable.
01-06-2004, 10:06 AM
If i get 5+ hp for $150 ill definatly be buying it
01-06-2004, 11:59 AM
That does sound like a good deal, please keep us informed on the results and performance.
01-06-2004, 12:03 PM
ill probably have it in a day or so but as my life goes, seat of the pants testing is about a month away. the car is going into shop thursday morning for removal of the current cage and install of a new one. i was told 2 weeks, but you know how these things go. im expecting at least 3 weeks. of course by the time i get back from the shop thurs evening the steeda will be on my doorstep!
01-16-2004, 09:32 AM
well steeda insists i will have my intake by monday. we'll see. old cage is out of car, assembly on new one starts today. so if the stars line up correctly, i should have it back by late next week. and will let you know of my impressions of the steeda intake.
01-16-2004, 09:49 AM
Its about time. LOL I'm sure your thinking the same. Keep us posted, I'm really looking at this intake. [;)]
01-20-2004, 08:58 PM
It's in rare cases that the AEM has oil problems and it's not just the AEM. It's the oil that comes from the cam cover. I drive the hell out of my car and have never had any problems with it, but others have. I wouldn't sell the extra 10 ft-lbs when used in conjunctions with the off-road pipe short though. I've never noticed any oil coming out of my breather, but there are 2 people on the Jet who say it's happened to them. It's also happened many times without the AEM to other people so I wouldnt say it's a AEM only problem. I think it's a prob with any intake other than the ones like the cool-flo that dont change the stock pipes.
01-21-2004, 10:06 AM
when i refer to hard driving causing oil problems, i am refering to up to 3 hrs of 5000 to 7200 rpm use on track. in a typical weekend car might log 250 to 500 miles of full throttle use. this cannot be duplicated on the street. every track car i know of, not just foci, have or are going to ditch the aem's. buddy w/a wrx pumped 1/2 quart in a 30 minute session on a hot day. aem=worthless. but if you still want one, i've still got one for sale cheap.
01-22-2004, 01:21 AM
It's happening to people stock though. IT's NOT an AEM problem it's a stock design issue. I had stock and AEM and cool-flo off my old focus. If you get 10 ft-lbs of torque from the intake over the cool flo when used w/ the off-road pipe, both intakes will have those same problems, it's really a no-brainer. People are having those oil issues with the stock set-up with the cool-flo with the Steeda, so it's not an AEM problem. Steeda gains about 1 hp btw and 2 ft-lbs after the car is warm.
01-25-2004, 05:06 PM
focusless has a good point if it happens with the stock air box how is this aem's problem? focusless- what does this mean Steeda gains about 1 hp btw and 2 ft-lbs after the car is warm.
01-26-2004, 08:32 AM
yes it happens a little w/the stock intake, but nowhere nerely as badly as with the aem. the aem cost me not one, but two days on track this past year. as wellas 3 tp's and two mass airs.
01-26-2004, 12:20 PM
Hate posting this twice (posted in another forum but it seems to fit here as well)...........
You can always go the DYI route..........I made my own with a Cone Filter, MAF adapter and a shop vac hose kit (for the CAI part) from Home Depot. It's basically the same type of setup as the DCAF Intake that is available from B.A.T. (that's where I got the idea from). and is more of a hybrid CAI than the AEM which I tried first but later sold(see potential water ingestion and C.E.L. 's for myself and other members of this board AND others ), for example. It's turned out to be an excellent setup that rams cold air from the lower front grill and can be removed in minutes for returning to stock if you are worried about warranty work with the 'good ol' boys' @ FORD. If you need more info about how I did it, just PM me or post back here. I pretty much built the whole thing for 40-50.00 if that helps and the G-tech says 5-6hp gain. Seat of pants impressions are that low end bogs have gone away (still feather the clutch when launching) and improved power over stock intake in the upper RPM's as the DSI engages at 5 grand. Maybe a bit off topic but I just thought you should know other potential options........
Here's a pic (since this pic was taken I have incorporated a heat shield into the mix made out of diamond tread plating that I modeled after Focus Central's heat shield) that seals to the hood):
CAI Picture (http://www.focusfanatics.com/gallery/showphoto.php?photo=452&password=&sort=1&cat=500&page=1)
Thanks for all the input to my question. I've decided that for me the AEM CAI would be too much of a pain to deal with, not just because of the possibility of the oil issue but more because of the filter sitting so low and the risk of picking up water and driving through wisconsin winters. I decided the steeda intake would be a good choice for me, its similar to what I had on my v6 contour, and I like that it comes with a replacement for the plastic part between the MAF and TB. I'll probably be building a heat shield for it as well as finding a way to get some cool air into the filter (probably in a similar way to 02SVTFOCI). Again thanks for all the advice
02-01-2004, 10:46 AM
The steeda only gets about 1 whp and 2 ft-lbs. It does not give the output steeda claims. Every other intake that's the same design is only about 1hp and about 2 ft-lbs. The AEM get like 4 and 4 none of them add hardly anything at all. The AEM CAI tested the best so far. Yeah filter placement is kinda shitty but don't drive through lakes and you'll be fine. I just can't say that 10 ft-lbs isn;t worth it over every other intake on the market. Add the off-road pipe with the AEM and you have 10 ft-lbs more than anyone with any other intake and the off-road pipe. Not a hard decison since you can find the AEM for under $200.
02-01-2004, 04:52 PM
AEM = 1) C.E.L.'s for the SVT (in my case as well as other's both here and other forums)
2) No Room for MAF upgrades for FI down the Road
3) Doesn't take a lake for water injestion to occur
All in all, the AEM is a decent design with decent gains on it's own. I agree with Focusless about the ORP but I would mix a 65mm TB into it all for better throttle response and call it a day for bolt-on's.
02-01-2004, 09:02 PM
like claimed by steeda 7-10 fwhp if u read the add closely it says 7-10 through out the power band, this is not a 7-10 peak gain the peak gain is probally the same as the aem short ram im not sure how k&n steeda and aem all look pretty close to the same design and one would be superior to all the others some one stated in another post that there is a shield made for the aem coldair that protects it from getting wet, and from what i saw on car domain pretty much every focus has the aem cold air do regluar focuses have the same problems as the svt with water ingestion?
02-01-2004, 10:45 PM
i have an aem cai on my car i had a few problems drawing in water at first but after i installed my by-pass valve i have not had any other problems.
Well I havent had much of a chance to test out my car since I put the steeda intake on yesterday because of wet or salt covered roads, but it does seem to make a difference, probably not as much as the aem would have though. Stangman you are rigth about the hp numbers not being at peak, but if you look at the dyno you will see that in the 4k-5.5k rpm range there are gains in line whith the 7-10hp claim which is more useful then at 7k for me anyway because I dont always run the car at 7k. Peak difference in hp is more like 3 and an extra 5ft-lbs of torque which isnt bad. Anyway, from the driving I've done sofar it does seem to smooth out the power in the midrange alittle and makes some extra noise. On the down side when I was installing the intake I noticed oil on the front of the valve cover and when I took of the sparkplug cover I found a puddle of oil by the farthest to the left plug boot, guess I'll be taking it in for that now.
02-02-2004, 10:40 AM
what i noticed immediately with the aem was the mid rangepower. where the svt had been dead from 2 to 5000 rpm, it was now very tractable.