Check this kit out...its an item description of ebay, IMO it's a crock but does anyone know if it really works?



100% BRAND NEW IN BOX HKS STYLE GROUND WIRE
No modifications necessary.

Safe and reliable system that provides a low resistance ground path.

Gives better ground will get more Horsepower, usually around 5-12 horsepower, Torque, better Mileage, better Response, better Starting Ability, and stabilize all electronic component in your car, especially engine while your car is running at high RPMs.

It prevents power loss and ensure top performance of your ignition and other components.

Easy installation with instruction guide provided(E-mail me for this), it comes with picture in the instruction so that it will help you better throughout the whole installation process. (will take less than 20 minute)


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?viewItem&rd=1&item=7975793493&category=6763

yes it does work, to an extent. I made my own but its the same basic concept. Really everything they said is true minus the actuall power gain, esp not 5-12. After i put mine on the car felt like it ran smoother, thats really the best word for it. there wasnt as much flickering in the lights, it seemed to excellerate smoother, helped with surging. So you may actually want to look into it. But damn, they want $20 for shipping!!?? i donno if it would be cheaper to make your own or not.

yeah, it really does improve perfomance,somewhat, they have been doin it for a while from what i hear and on some vehicles it reall mad a big dif. i asked around about them,and looked into them on the net, cause im pretty new to all this tuner stuff, they work, but like anything else, usually not as well as the manufacturer claims. its an improvement to the manufacturers ground system that, while, it works ok, isnt nessasarily the best way or most cost effective way of doing it. most kits use better, less resistant materials, and optimize (ding ding ding ding 50 cent word of the day!!) the ground points. it can make a huge diff on some electonic/ computer controled atx's. all around, it evens out the electical flow to the ecu and differant sensors to help smooth out engine response. and it looks cool! [thumb]

oh, if ya decide to do it, dont use some universal kit. that would be defeating the purpose. get one made specificly for your vehicle with the cables cut to specific lenghts, or do like mxer did, and make you own.

Yeah, and don't forget to change your blinker fluid too! That's worth at least 2-5 hp.

Save your money for something that works ,

Tom

where you get real ground wiring kit

well I have one, works alright, I wasnt expecting much from it. Umm the things it helped with were less blinking in the lights (dimming in and out) and smoother start up along with a smoother run, but other than that no hp gain I know. Worth 35 bucks which is what I paid for mine. But it is a b*tch to install.

had one for my civic just mad the radio louder and then my battery died... threw the kit away

I installed basically the same kit, 25 bucks. I only used 5 of the 7 wires, but made a good run across the engine compartment. It does do some dressup of the engine compartment, and starts are a bit smoother.

if you do decide to make your own. There are a few write ups on here, just do a search but them main places you want the wires to ground are near sensors. I have 4 wires on mine, one from the battery to chassis, battery to engine block, fuel rail to chassis, and engine to chassis. it did make a difference, nothing mind blowing but it did do something. Id say go for it.

thanks for the feedback I'll look into it a little further before a make a decision....it just seems that HARDWARE does NOTHING for a car now EVERYTHING is all about computers. Also has anyone did the research on the "Focus RS8"....OMG>>>jaw dropper>>> but my questions is it MASS PRODUCED??? Anyway thanks for the feedback!

One more thing---the 35$ CAI's on ebay, they look IDENTICAL to AEM's accept instead of 3" its like 2.5"

seems like a deal to me?!?! ANYONE!!!

i have an ebay intake....not $35 but still... you will get what you pay for. mine works but the mounts didnt line up and it is just cheaply made. personally i cant see a huge power difference between an ebay intake and an aem, but thats just imo

RS8 is pure aftermarket stuff. You can buy the RS in Europe, but the rest is 100k worth of goodies [:D]

If you wait around enough, check on the for sale forums. You can usually catch some pretty good deals on there. Personally, my moto is you get what you pay for. Do the research, make a decision on a product, and buy it. If your intake snaps off while you are driving, you prolly just tossed some metal down into your engine and you just got the big whammy (anyone remember those?). So definitely worth getting something well made.

The topic of hypergrounds comes up so often nowadays, I wrote an article on it.

For all you skeptics, please see here -> click (http://www.calgaryfocus.com/articles.htm#HyperGround) Complete with dyno printout.