: Traction Control?!?! IS it really OFF?
05-17-2005, 02:03 PM
Traction control is a questionable topic for me. My '02 sonic blue SVT has it and when i quot on quote "turn it off" is it really off? And if its engaged then why can i still spin. I know this has been discussed but i recently went to the tracks and am going again soon i ran a 15.80 at 91.09mph and i was wondering i got the same basic time with it off as i did with it on. Should i pull the fuse or would this not help?!?! SOMEONE please help me to get a better time with this POS...well its not a POS but it is when it comes to dragging because my car seems to BOG out and lose power at first wen i gear slam!
05-17-2005, 02:06 PM
The TC is still on up until 25 mph. You can remedy this with a simple $10 kill switch, or spend $300-$500 and get a tune which will disable the TC appropriately when it is switch off, not to mention make you car run like a friggin stallion.
05-17-2005, 02:26 PM
yeah i made a switch for it .. very easy and simple
05-17-2005, 02:30 PM
if you pull the fuse or put in a kill switch i believe you also will lose your abs
05-17-2005, 02:40 PM
Yes, but seeing how not all cars came with abs in the late and early 90's I think you can live with out it for the 30 sec's that you would have it disabled. You should only disable it when you launch, don't have it disabled all day.
05-17-2005, 02:53 PM
now you guys are sayin a switch as in where would i locate it near the button under the steering column or under the hood...it may be just as easy for me to pull the fuse for the 30 sec that i run and put it back in my only other ? is will that continuous plugging in and unplugging the fuse which in return basically resets my abs have any affect on my abs or traction control over time...because it is useful in some cases but also could someone tell me what it does do...in the snow when its on i still spin and even on dry pavement i spin so wats the purpose of it????
05-17-2005, 03:23 PM
The last two pics are a little big, sorry.
05-17-2005, 04:39 PM
thanks...unfortunatel i currently have a switch installed in that EXACT location for my interier LED's all 11 of them...i think i can just live with pulling the fuse but does anyone have any other suggestions on where to locat the switch. I understand the concept just that fuse panel cover is rigid on the opposite side and could pose a threat to how the switch would be mounted.
05-17-2005, 05:25 PM
Put it under it? There's plenty of room on that panel to put more then 1 switch.
05-17-2005, 09:29 PM
That is true but if you have ever looked at the reverse side there is plastic spines and the codes for which fuse is which...So i do not want to cut a whole in it...what about the side of the stearing wheel column does neone kno if that would be hard?
i heard somewhere on here that if you have abs and remove the fuse your your abs will not work and your brake distrubution between front and rear will be messed up edit: found it http://focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=47299&highlight=SVT+Traction+Control+Kill+Switch WD40
mentions it which really wouldn't matter as long as you used it on launches
05-17-2005, 09:57 PM
Yeah, everyone freaks about the abs thing but as I said above abs wasn't even a standard option untill 2000 and up. I still don't think all cars come with it standard. So living with out it for like a min. shouldn't kill anyone. When you flip the switch back the abs resets itself so that whole process only takes like 5 sec.'s. Any ways, my point is it's no big deal. One more thing, the SVT has some oversized brakes to start with and no matter what car you are in the front brakes are going to do about 75% of the stoping anyways (thats why they wear out faster than the back) so with the svt's light weight and oversized brakes (especially in the front) there is nothing to worry about. Now if you were going around disabling traction on a SUV or something that has some weight behind it thats where you would run into some major problems.
Originally posted by sidney61199
One more thing, the SVT has some oversized brakes to start with and no matter what car you are in the front brakes are going to do about 75% of the stoping anyways (thats why they wear out faster than the back) so with the svt's light weight and oversized brakes (especially in the front) there is nothing to worry about.
^^^IMHO, that is something to worry about.^^^
It's not losing the ABS I'd be concerned about.
It's losing all semblance of brake proportioning that's cause for major concern.
You no longer have the front brakes doing the majority of the braking duties.
When you pull the fuse, disabling the ABS, it also KILLS the brake proportioning.
You end up with a 50/50 split front/rear.
That's a quick trip in the ditch if you hit the brakes hard in a turn.
The rears are going to lock up in a heartbeat because you've lost all brake biasing.
Now, I do agree on one point though.
Heading down the drag strip, it's probably not a big deal...
unless you get out of line and have to stand on the brakes.[eek]
05-19-2005, 12:18 AM
you could always invest in one of the "flashers " and get a tune at the same time.
05-19-2005, 05:19 AM
does it really change the 1/4 time that much??? anybody try a run wit traction control then one without traction control? by da way i dont seem to have a button for TC...does that mean i have no TC? or should i just pull da fuse? i just came back from da track n ran a 16.3 at best (corrected time because track wasnt sea level)
05-19-2005, 07:18 AM
The "Traction Control" that we have in our cars was not designed to give you better traction while blazing down a track.. It was designed for slippery contions.. ie roads that are wet, or covered in ice and snow. When your tire or tires begin to spin your car slows down the engine in an attempt to regain traction. If your racing, i would say that turning off this crap called "TC" is a must. Because if your tires do spin of the line, your engine is going to back off on its own to regain traction. I personally like to be the one controlling my engine, not some computer chip.
05-19-2005, 08:26 PM
i say leave it on. When i was at the track i dropped the clutch at 3500, the light started flashing and i kept accelerating while the revs held at about 4000 with out bogging or anything. it hooked up quick and kept the revs goin. 15.4 with intake and udp