: 2005 SES/ZXW issues question.
05-17-2005, 11:26 AM
A friend is looking at purchasing a 2005 Focus SES/ZXW with the 2.0L (don't know if those are Zetecs yet) and the "things to look out for" came up. Just going off my limited memory I seem to remember hearing of stalling and some sort of auto tranny issues in the new 2005's. Somebody correct me if I am wrong and/or tell me what else I should mention.
Thanks in advance.
05-17-2005, 11:33 AM
There is a hard start/no start condition on the '05 Focus but that's with the manual box AFAIK, though my auto '05 ZX4 SES does it on occasion too.
When it no starts you have to shut it down and wait a full five seconds before trying it again, otherwise yer cranking until you're blue in the face [?|]
05-17-2005, 07:51 PM
if it's a Wagon, I believe they come with the Duratech 2.3 with 150hp, or something like that..
05-18-2005, 01:18 AM
No, the only 05 that comes with the 2.3 is the ST.
All the others come with the 2.0 Duratec.
05-18-2005, 07:43 PM
Tell your friend to be sure and wait until Saturday, as I believe there will be a new $500 rebate added, if financed through Ford Credit, in addition to the current $2,000 rebate and free auto transmission (or $500 credit on a manual transmission) and they will also toss in a free two-year, 24,000 maintenance agreement (which basically is no more than free oil changes, since on would not expect brake pads or other things to wear out that soon, but it's free).
05-18-2005, 08:13 PM
05-18-2005, 08:19 PM
Well, I also had the option of X plan and found that on a Focus I could actually get a better deal directly from the dealer.
I also had one of those "personal" $500 rebates I received by requesting a "in the mail" brochure from the fordvehicles web site which excluded X plan. So at the end of the day, I got my Focus for $700 than the comparible X plan price.
Remember, if you are going X plan, the dealer cannot charge you their typical "documentation" fee... you know, that $100 or so "junk" fee they add. If he goes X-plan, be sure to take along the x-plan documentation so you can show them that they cannot add such fees to the X plan price, as part of the X plan fee the dealer receives is meant to cover this. The dealer will argue with you, so have the documentation when you close the deal.
05-18-2005, 08:31 PM
This might be of help to your friend in making a deal. I actually will take delivery of my SES ZXW this Saturday (waiting for a rebate to kick in). The deal is $20,779 MSRP, plus $99 service fee, plus $46 license/title fees, less $1,509 dealer discount, less $2,000 rebate, less $815 for "free auto transmission," less $500 "personal rebate" from brochure ford mailed to me, less $500 Ford Credit rebate, for a net of $16,601. With a smokers kit tossed in and the "free 2 yr/26,000 maintenance."
The $2,000 Cash and $815 free auto tranmission is compatible with X plan, but the personal rebate of $500 is not. I do not know if the upcoming $500 Ford credit rebate is compatible with the X plan price, but I suspect it will be, based on past practices.
05-18-2005, 08:33 PM
Oops, Bad Math on my part. The final price should be $15,601. My agreement sheet doesn't show the last two $500 rebates, as they have to be put into the system Satuday when I go to pay for it and pick it up.
05-19-2005, 10:02 AM
For what its worth, I have a 9 month-old 05 SES wagon-- it has the 2.0 liter 136 hp duratec. So far with about 8900 miles, fine car-- with no probs except the rear hatch release located on the dash only works 1 of ten times. I'll get that fixed (on Ford) when I go in for next service.
Compared to many other wagons available, I think these are a real bargain.
05-21-2005, 11:57 PM
NEW TO FOCUS !!
Just purchased a 05 ZXW SES, and indeed the rebates and discounts really add up; $2000 Ford rebate + $815 Ford free auto trans, and A DEALER REBATE OF $2685 [?|] , for a total of $5500 of MSRP of 20,030. I saw used 04's and 05's selling for more than $14,530. Couldn't pass it up.[:)] [:)] [thumb]
I will say; however this is the first Ford I have owned since I had a 1949 (yes '49), when I was in HS in the early '50's.
I just had my Focus wired as follows:
1) driving lights on with ignition on - ALWAYS - toggle switch to kill
2) auto light sentinel - uses a photo cell to turn on head lights, parking lights, tail lights, dash lights, etc. just as if you turned the switch on. Has delays to keep from cycling on/off if driving in shade/sun. Never use the light switch again. (Just like the "expensive" cars). Has toggle switch to deactivate so as not always on, like in a repair shop.
Also, just had the windows tinted: driver and passenger window at 35%, and the back 5 windows at 20%.
See a couple pictures in "My Photo Gallery"
05-22-2005, 12:11 PM
Nice start! Love to see the modded wagons!
[welcome] to FocusFanatics!
05-22-2005, 06:05 PM
You got a fantastic price. I am buying a 2005 ZXW and, having talked with a lot of dealers, the best I could get (which I hopefully close on Monday), is dealer discount of $1,509, Ford rebate of $3,000 (rebates of $2,000, $1,000, and a $500 "private" rebate), for a total discount/rebate of $5,009 vs. your $5,500.
And my dealer also is hitting me up for a $99 service fee and a $99 "pinsptrip" they installed prior to my interest in the vehicle. So overall, you've gotten about $700 more than I could squeeze out.
Congratulations on great negotiating!
05-22-2005, 11:21 PM
I didn't really negotiate, the ad in the paper was as per the rebates and the BIG dealer discount; yes. I had a hard time believing it, so, like I said - couldn't pass it up. I asked the salesman why the large discount; he said only that this dealer wants to be No. 1 in the Seattle area [werd] [werd]
05-23-2005, 11:54 AM
Congrats-- I've got the same car-- the SES model, white. I bought mine with a trade and probably didn't get anywhere close to the deal you got. Have used my little wagon for golf outings, hauling furniture, power equipment, wife's gardening needs, etc-- put down some good, tough carpeting in the rear hatch area that matched the (tan) interior pattern so I didn't mess up the factory stuff-- it's pretty flimsy.