: HIA Intakes are here


Hypnotic
04-26-2005, 05:29 PM
OK gang, after several different trials on the short ram intakes, I have finally found one that works for me.
And hopefully for you to!
Here are the pics:
http://www.team-sr.org/images/intakedside.jpg
http://www.team-sr.org/images/intakefront.jpg
http://www.team-sr.org/images/intakepside.jpg
http://www.team-sr.org/images/intaketop.jpg

Slightly larger diameter than the Steeda, also relocated the oil vent connection to under the curve of the tube for better asthetics as well as placing the vented gas in the main section of the flow. This is a cotton mesh filter, non oiled, so no maf contamination worries.
The setup comes with all the boots, clamps and filter, and will utilize the stock or aftermarket maf. Also please notice that the filter extends a bit farther into the opening where the stock airbox used to be. It is actually TIGHT in there, thus the rattle and flex from other short rams have been eliminated. Retail is going to be $150 shipped.

Daeron
04-26-2005, 05:33 PM
Looks nice Wayne. Any colors available?

Hypnotic
04-26-2005, 05:35 PM
As for now, I can get the polished, black powdercoated, and red powdercoated. I am working with them to see if they can match the sonic blue, screamin yellow and comp orange as well.

Daeron
04-26-2005, 05:38 PM
Oh, filter question too. When that becomes dirty, replace or can it be cleaned and reused?

Hypnotic
04-26-2005, 05:40 PM
Replacable filter. I havent put the cost on them yet, but it will be very cost effective vs the higher priced oiled version.

Iceboy9191
04-26-2005, 06:58 PM
These seem kinda rediculous to me....i mean 150$ for a 90degree pipe...and yeah i know that this is how much they all go for, but it seems like something this simple wouldnt cost much to manufacture. The cold air system seems much more complex, but i still dont belive its worth 300 dollars, not trying to bash or anything because im still about to call you for a tune[paranoid] but it seems like if this was sold for half the price it would take the place of everyother short ram, along with changing the minds of potential CAI buyers ??

2004SVTAutoXer
04-26-2005, 07:32 PM
looks good - any chance you could fit a K&N filter on the end of those?

Daeron
04-26-2005, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by Iceboy9191
These seem kinda rediculous to me....i mean 150$ for a 90degree pipe...and yeah i know that this is how much they all go for, but it seems like something this simple wouldnt cost much to manufacture. The cold air system seems much more complex, but i still dont belive its worth 300 dollars, not trying to bash or anything because im still about to call you for a tune[paranoid] but it seems like if this was sold for half the price it would take the place of everyother short ram, along with changing the minds of potential CAI buyers ??

Then get a business license, and front the money to cover the cost of having these made, or you can try and resell them, but the end cost to the consumer is going to be the same. Wayne has spent his time trying to engineer a product that is specific for the SVTF enthusiest. If it seems rediculous to you, then don't buy it. But don't come here knocking a product that someone has spent their own time working on in the hopes that they help out the community.

In other words, and as your parents probably told you as a kid, if you don't have anything nice to say, don't say it at all. [:(!]

2004SVTAutoXer
04-26-2005, 07:47 PM
oh and wayne didn't just toss an elbow and paper filter on, this has been in the works for months for something called SVT specific R&D

kudos to him, it just replaced the K&N typhoon on my list of toys, although like i said i hate paper filters and will try to find a universal to fit on there

hopefully he gives me the dimensions i'd need so i can find the closest fit on K&N's site.

dudley123
04-26-2005, 07:58 PM
I am sure you can get a replacement K&N if you wanted, but if the filter IS in fact that cheap to replace then there is no need for it. I also can vouch for him having worked his *ss off in the design of it. He has engineered something and spent LOTS of money through R&D. IT WILL WORK, lol. He doesn't just through something out there that HE himself wouldn't buy. I already have one of these on the way, and I will tell you how I like it. I am sure i will, but just look at the other short rams, they either have that unsightful Breather tube on the side, and have the rattle issues at idle and with the engine torque. Also it IS a little bigger than the steeda intake which means more airflow, I am sure he didn't just decide to make it bigger there must have been a little more to gain out of a bigger tube. I also thinkg the biggest reason he is going with a cotton filter, is because the filter is located SO close to the MAF sensor and if you had a K&N filter the oil would be HORRIBLE and cause u to clean the MAF almost daily probably. just my thoughts. Congrats Wayne on gettin it out. Buy on peeps.

Hypnotic
04-26-2005, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by Iceboy9191
These seem kinda rediculous to me....i mean 150$ for a 90degree pipe...and yeah i know that this is how much they all go for, but it seems like something this simple wouldnt cost much to manufacture. The cold air system seems much more complex, but i still dont belive its worth 300 dollars, not trying to bash or anything because im still about to call you for a tune[paranoid] but it seems like if this was sold for half the price it would take the place of everyother short ram, along with changing the minds of potential CAI buyers ??

I am working on finding another supplier for the mandrel bent pipes. Its not a 90 degree, its actually 82 [:D].
The main part of the initial cost is as the others have said, in the R&D. If I can get this other company to knock the pieces I need out from them at a cheaper cost polished, then I will offer the polished for much cheaper, with the powdercoated pieces out a bit more for the cost of the coating and polishing.
Trust me, I do NOT want to overcharge, or be "just like the other companies". I have done a lot of work on these. I am not making a lot on them, so I CAN come out under the other retailers and offer the SVT peeps a good product at a lower price.
The average price on the Steeda SRIs are $170 and then add shipping.
The average price on the AEM SRIs are $180+ and then add shipping.
Do the math [?|]

Now that I have the intake, I am working on a ram air system for it utilizing the stock ram tube that goes up to the stock air box. Though I may not need it.
Datalogging last night, average ambient temp outside was 58 degrees, I was seeing almost freezing temps at my IAT rolling speed limit + a bit, idle and reg cruise, in the 70 degree range. . During the day, ambient temp today was 65 degrees, the highest average temp I saw off the IAT was 98 and that was in dead stop traffic for 30 mins.
With the stock airbox in place, I was seeing as high as 115-120 in traffic. Not anymore [:)~]

2004SVTAutoXer
04-26-2005, 08:48 PM
you didn't answer my K&N question!! :(

Hypnotic
04-26-2005, 09:26 PM
Originally posted by 2004SVTAutoXer
you didn't answer my K&N question!! :(


As long as the filter has a 2 3/4" boot, stretch to fit over the pipe, you are good to go [:D]

abominable
04-26-2005, 09:27 PM
are you going to be offering a package deal for the intake and the tune? i'll be getting both shortly...

2004SVTAutoXer
04-26-2005, 09:33 PM
Originally posted by Hypnotic
As long as the filter has a 2 3/4" boot, stretch to fit over the pipe, you are good to go [:D]

i see a HIA intake and r/t in my birthday future wayne :)

SVT_BMXer
04-26-2005, 11:13 PM
Looks great Wayne, i very well may be purchasing one cause im thinking about replacing my CAI.

Hypnotic
04-26-2005, 11:25 PM
Originally posted by abominable
are you going to be offering a package deal for the intake and the tune? i'll be getting both shortly...

$470 shipped

Hypnotic
04-26-2005, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by 2004SVTAutoXer
i see a HIA intake and r/t in my birthday future wayne :)

{looks into Hypnotic crystal ball} Sees more performance in your future [:o)]

Darth Focus
04-26-2005, 11:36 PM
Kudos Wayne!!

Regarding the bashing - the dude does great things for us, either support him financially, or at least give the man some kudos!

Wayne, It *looks* like your MAF is clocked at 10 o'clock, not the "stock on the air box" 12 o'clock - any reason? Do you know something we don't!?

(Yes, I notice things now..)

DilSVT
04-27-2005, 01:40 AM
What is the actual diameter of the tube? Do you also sell a 70mm MAF for the SVT? Can you include one in a kit with a tune too?

JRSVT04
04-27-2005, 02:01 AM
Good work.

focusfrost
04-27-2005, 02:06 AM
wayne I ve got your tune on my svt already. if I get your intake would I have to get a revised reflash ?[paranoid]

focusfrost
04-27-2005, 02:27 AM
also what kind of gains did you get from this intake?

Mork
04-27-2005, 07:45 AM
Originally posted by 2004SVTAutoXer
looks good - any chance you could fit a K&N filter on the end of those?

It looks to me that the CAI doesn't have anything to do with the conical filter size. If it fits snug over your stock MAF's flange, it would work fine.

Originally posted by dudley123
I also thinkg the biggest reason he is going with a cotton filter, is because the filter is located SO close to the MAF sensor and if you had a K&N filter the oil would be HORRIBLE and cause u to clean the MAF almost daily probably.

I would bet it has more to do with cost of the filter being less than the K&N and the fact that perfomance isn't really any better between the cotton he is using and K&N. The benefit to the K&N is that you never have to replace it and only need to clean it every 50-60k miles. In my experience, the K&N flows better the dirtier it is (to a point) so there is no reason to clean it very often like some folks do. The oil on the MAF is a user error, not a K&N issue. If people didn't put tons of oil on there and actually let it dry properly they wouldn't have any problems. I have been using them for ten years re-oiling around 50k miles and have never had to clean my MAF. More oil is NOT better when refreshing the K&N.

My question for Hypnotic would be if we could buy the kit sans filter for those of us who just replaced the stock airbox with a conical filter on the end of the MAF. I don't need the filter but would be open to the idea of buying just the tube and couplers b/w the TB and MAF to get rid of my breather setup. It looks like, from the pics that there would still be room for my huge K&N on the end of the MAF with this tube. Plus, if folks wanted to go with a K&N, they could buy it on their own and buy just the TB to MAF setup from you, Wayne. Just a thought...

jaykirs
04-27-2005, 08:43 AM
That looks nice Wayne!! I am wondering if you are going to consider designing a CAI in the future. I already have a CAI myself and will never part with it (until I sell my car lol), however, I am willing to bet there would be interest in it.

svtfiend
04-27-2005, 12:26 PM
have any of you tried the CP cold air intakes ($90) or the short ram (75) on ebay? the price just seems so hard to beat. i just got my car a couple of months ago and its bone stock except for a k&n drop in. the cai looks a lot like aem's, but who knows until you get it right?
just wondering!

dudley123
04-27-2005, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by jaykirs
That looks nice Wayne!! I am wondering if you are going to consider designing a CAI in the future. I already have a CAI myself and will never part with it (until I sell my car lol), however, I am willing to bet there would be interest in it.

Hehehe. I will let him tell you.

Fordson
04-27-2005, 09:16 PM
Wayne, are you considering doing a heat shield with this? And yes, what kind of gains are you seeing?

abominable
04-27-2005, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by Fordson
Wayne, are you considering doing a heat shield with this? And yes, what kind of gains are you seeing?

A heat shield would definitely put it over the top for me. And, I'd love to see a dyno too. [:D]

ajchen
04-28-2005, 08:28 AM
well, you will all have dyno plots to look at within the next 2 weeks. i'll be purchasing wayne's tune + intake package and will be installing it next week. i will have a stock baseline dyno and a dyno with ONLY the tune + intake and nothing else. the gains should be pretty clear. stay tuned... i'll have a thread up with pictures and a review.

fncsvt
04-28-2005, 10:06 AM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by svtfiend
[B]have any of you tried the CP cold air intakes ($90)

Sorry to get of topic, but yes. Bought it at NOPI for a little more. Just replace the filter when you install(filter included is a little scary looking).

02SVTFOCI
04-28-2005, 10:23 AM
Problem there sometimes is quality of materials..........I actually built my own Ram AIR intake that works great but I have heard nothing but good things so far about Wayne's product so I'm going to try it out and make it a hybrid with my Cone Filter and ram air hose to try and improve on the Short Ram design a bit by pulling in cold air from the bumper. It's a little different now with my heat shield and Red Top Optima Battery but taking The HIA kit and putting it in place of mine with the improved materials will compliment the engine bay some and should give me a better seal to the TB. Not trying to jack the thread just putting a spin on the Short RAM possibilities for those guys who want some cold air as well.




http://www.focusfanatics.com/gallery/data/509/147CAI_1.jpg

svtpete
04-28-2005, 11:07 AM
Is that hose from aa craftsmen shop vac? Very creative.

ajchen
04-28-2005, 11:12 AM
i was checkin out your pictures... it's an interesting design...

but i question how close it is to a true ram air design. granted i know we're trying to stay as close to stock as possible, and a vent on the hood right by the filter wouldnt be feasible... but true ram air systems should be set at an angle such that air should come straight on into the intake... it shouldnt have to travel UP a pipe to reach the intake because that defeats the whole point of ram air. (i've examined stock ram air intakes on BMWs and Pontiac Grand Prix's.) having that pipe there in the lower grill means that the pipe has to have a vertical bend to reach the cone filter, and air really isnt going to be "rammed" in there, right?

http://www.focusfanatics.com/gallery/data/509/147CAI_grill_shot.jpg

i am no physics major but that seems like common sense to me. i'm not saying it's bad for your car, but i am wondering if there is a better way. if wayne is developing a ram air system, hopefully it will come thru the upper grill and not the lower... since the shorter the pipe and the more on level it is with the intake, the more efficient the system. thats the only way i can see it being more helpful.

anyone want to correct me here?

Fordson
04-28-2005, 11:42 AM
I think that the lower part of the grille - in the airdam - is better because it's a higher-pressure area aerodynamically, when the car is moving. That's why all cooling air for the radiator comes in there. The regular (upper) grille is just for show anymore. Not much air goes through there to the radiator. So, I wonder how much of a ram air effect you will get locating the intake there. I don't know how much of an effect you'll get locating it in the lower area, either, but I know that's a higher-pressure area.

Looking forward to the dynos of Hypnotic's intake, though!

brawls43
04-28-2005, 11:44 AM
Its close enough to a ram air for us. It looks similar to what you get with a Pipercross, except they only get air from the front and his pulls from the engine bay and the front. With what you're saying about a true ram air it wouldn't matter if you had a huge hood scoop on one of our cars with how our intake manifold is shaped. You can't "ram" air straight into the ports anyways. The biggest gains for our engines is just to get cooler air charge temps. However you do it, great.

ajchen
04-28-2005, 11:52 AM
i agree that the lower dam is higher pressure and the radiator does get cool air, but it's located RIGHT behind the dam haha. having a pipe inlet there is quite a different thing.... but again, i am just talking out of my butt. perhaps if wayne does make a ram air system i can do some more dyno runs haha.

focusfrost
04-28-2005, 12:09 PM
I like this sri variation, an if wayne can sell a kit like this i would be very interested in getting it. it looks like it can give you some of the benifits of both a cai & a sri.

shaunq
04-28-2005, 02:34 PM
hay wayne u should add a heat shield and maybe a add on cold air snorkle thing like 02SVTFOCI did

02SVTFOCI
04-28-2005, 02:57 PM
I am actually gonna take his kit (buying an SCT Xcalibrator and the Intake as a package today actually) and retrofit either his air filter to my hose setup (planning on making it a bit prettier than that old pic above) or clean and re-oil my filter along with his pipe and hardware (I have, since this pic, had to insert a piece of pipe in my rubber elbow to allow me to plumb a 50 shot wet into it)and hardware. I've also, since that pic, incorporated an Injen style heat shield for heat soak. The setup is actually an idea I got from the DCAF intake so I didn't reinvent the wheel here.........just got creative. Gtech says I gained 8hp going from stock to my setup (Somewhere between 5-8 makes since to me) but this is Wayne's thread and I like what he has down with his intake and plan to take his improvements on the Short Ram and make them mine. ALL HAIL WAYNE for looking out for us SVT's!

SVT ewx ca
04-28-2005, 03:24 PM
About how much gain would you get from the intake and tune?

How difficult is the tune going to be if I tried to do it myself (if that is even possible)

I have a AEM CAI and Ive had it on for a little over a year, and im not extreamly pleased with it, and would like to go short ram.

jaykirs
04-28-2005, 04:38 PM
Originally posted by 02SVTFOCI
ALL HAIL WAYNE for looking out for us SVT's!

ALL HAIL WAYNE, ALL HAIL WAYNE, Oh Wayne can you see, by the dawns early light. What so proudly... ALL HAIL WAYNE

Hypnotic
04-28-2005, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by jaykirs
ALL HAIL WAYNE, ALL HAIL WAYNE, Oh Wayne can you see, by the dawns early light. What so proudly... ALL HAIL WAYNE


ROFLMAO!!! You guys crack me up, [:p] [:D] [:p]

shaunq
04-28-2005, 04:48 PM
haha

jaykirs
04-28-2005, 04:54 PM
When I saw "ALL HAIL WAYNE" I imediately thought of that sceen in Men in Black 2 with the fuzzy critters in the locker singing that to K and J LOL

02SVTFOCI
04-28-2005, 05:03 PM
In the end, Wayne is going to be able to clarify all this for you but you should see approx 10-15hp and more importantly a healthy dose of Torque. I'm not a big fan of the AEM either as I had one and it thru CEL's constantly right after I bought the car. Some people on here are very happy with their's though. But hey, just another reason to go with Wayne's setup as he' s the only one coming out with new SVT parts right now and at a price that doesn't rape your wallet.

ajchen
04-28-2005, 05:45 PM
10-15hp? haha i dont expect to get that much...

SVTBishop
04-28-2005, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by Hypnotic
As for now, I can get the polished, black powdercoated, and red powdercoated. I am working with them to see if they can match the sonic blue, screamin yellow and comp orange as well.


Comp Orange!!! [thumb] [headbang]

brawls43
04-28-2005, 08:34 PM
^^^^^ I second that!! ^^^^^

[headbang]

DilSVT
04-28-2005, 08:57 PM
Does anyone know the diameter of the tubing used? I don't want to buy anyting less than 3in. Plus, Wayne do you offer a MAF for the SVT too?

SVT_BMXer
04-28-2005, 10:42 PM
^^^ think he already went over that...

Hypnotic
04-28-2005, 10:47 PM
Originally posted by SVTBishop
Comp Orange!!! [thumb] [headbang]


Hmmm, it would be nice if a customer sent me a pic or 2 of his comp orange focus so I can get it on my website [?|]

Hypnotic
04-28-2005, 10:50 PM
Originally posted by DilSVT
Does anyone know the diameter of the tubing used? I don't want to buy anyting less than 3in. Plus, Wayne do you offer a MAF for the SVT too?

The Short ram tubing is 3". I do not offer the MAFs at this time, as Pro M has gone belly up. I hear that either Granetelli or C n L are going to pick up their calibrations, but no one knows for sure as of yet. Until something else happens, there is always the use of the 6cyl mafs and having someone program for that change in the tuning. [:D]

svt4chris
04-29-2005, 01:10 AM
Hey Wayne, you said something about not selling these for very long, or maybe not making too many of them... how long exactly? Because I'm certainly interested in the tune/intake package, but I can't afford it yet.

Hypnotic
04-29-2005, 01:55 AM
I am not going to stop having them. I am working on sources to be able to price them cheaper, but with the same quality. I will be carrying them for a loooong time to come, or until good customers stop buying them, whichever comes first
[thumb]

focusfrost
04-29-2005, 10:19 AM
question for wayne. do you have a version of an intake like 02svtfoci? sri with extension for more cold air from outside the engine bay.also what is your oppinion on that type of intake hybrid?

02SVTFOCI
04-29-2005, 09:02 PM
LOL I apologize for stealing your thunder here Wayne........my intake design probably belongs in another thread. You guys can PM me and i will give you any info you want on it and where I got the idea to build it from. HOWEVER, let me say again............I am taking Wayne's NEW HIA and adding my hose idea to it. Kind of a HIA/DCAF hybrid, as nobody to this point has impressed with the quality of parts and customer service to make me want to BUY their intake until Wayne.

focusfrost
04-29-2005, 11:14 PM
I agree , but wayne can you please answer my question. also how can we order your intake ?

focusfrost
05-01-2005, 09:51 PM
[headbang] are these available yet? cause i definately want to get one! how do we get em?[bootyshak [burnout] [screwy] !!!

Hypnotic
05-16-2005, 07:40 AM
bump [:D]

02SVTFOCI
05-16-2005, 11:23 PM
Originally posted by jaykirs
When I saw "ALL HAIL WAYNE" I imediately thought of that sceen in Men in Black 2 with the fuzzy critters in the locker singing that to K and J LOL


LOL.......I knew there was something subliminal going on there when I wrote that MIB II musta been on TBS or something earlier

SVT ewx ca
06-15-2005, 09:36 AM
Wayne I am interested in the sri, but here are my concerns. In other sri's the intake tube is a little longer, thus making the maf be even further away from the throttle body _ which is what the svt focus likes (the stock setup with the maf right next to the throttle body is terrible). Have you considered your ram air system more? I know it would be more of a 'cool' air system and not necessarily a ram-air because we have 4cyls with mass air flow sensors, but I am still very very curious about if you made any inventions or progress.

Either way, I just purchased an evo style hood with the two top vents and I am pressed to make some sorta of scroop from one vent, or a ram air intake that goes up to that vent.

Have you found anyone to produce the svt sri from hypnotic any cheaper or you still working with a $150 price? I emailed your website last night, but my email is -

zeke180@yahoo.com

and I would like to purchase a sri...maybe even a creative custom one we could work out via emails. Thank you sir

essveetee
06-15-2005, 08:29 PM
Wayne,

Any more info about a heat shield of some sort?

How are you supporting that elbow, just by the hose couplers on the TB?

Have you fitted one of these to a car w/ a strut tower brace? It looks like it would interfere...

Thanks!

SVT ewx ca
06-15-2005, 09:42 PM
It wouldn't interfere at all the filter is practically laid on where airbox normally would be. It'd be fine (unless your running a ew ebay strut)

essveetee
06-15-2005, 09:51 PM
Do you have the strut tower bar? I have a FS...

I'm not worried about the filter at all, its the tubing that concerns me. My bar hugs the fuse box VERY closely, and it looks like the tubing in that first pic is right in the road of my bar....that's all.

focusfrost
06-16-2005, 02:48 AM
I have the hia sri and an fs strut tower brace and it does bang against it when i first start the car up. So i connected a small rubber bumper to the brace bar to mute it.it works for me. By the way I think any aftermarket intake might bump into that bar. I read that the bar is useless anyway. [hihi]

essveetee
06-16-2005, 09:11 AM
Originally posted by focusfrost
I have the hia sri and an fs strut tower brace and it does bang against it when i first start the car up. So i connected a small rubber bumper to the brace bar to mute it.it works for me. By the way I think any aftermarket intake might bump into that bar. I read that the bar is useless anyway. [hihi]

Well, its not useless...it serves as a nice handle when I'm working on the engine[;)]

I know some intakes clear it just fine....my AEM CAI did (even though that just went straight down)...

jb10fan
06-16-2005, 04:56 PM
Are they available yet? I am interesting in your combo price of 470 for tune and intake. Thanks!

Hypnotic
06-17-2005, 03:53 AM
Originally posted by DilSVT
Does anyone know the diameter of the tubing used? I don't want to buy anyting less than 3in. Plus, Wayne do you offer a MAF for the SVT too?

Yes the tubing is 3". I can get you the SCT MAFs, but they are really overkill on an NA car.

Hypnotic
06-17-2005, 04:03 AM
Originally posted by jb10fan
Are they available yet? I am interesting in your combo price of 470 for tune and intake. Thanks!
That price is for the Xcal1 and the intake.
The Xcal2 and the intake is $490 (saving you $30 over purchasing them seperately).
Yes, the first run of the new version is coming out next week. They will be available in polished, blue (going to TRY to match the Sonic Blue), red, black, silver. I will have them custom color coated in Comp Orange or Screaming yellow for a bit more. I will let you know what the "bit" is when I get the pricing from the powder coater tomorrow.
I have also decided to go with a BLACK filter, and black Hose Techniques transitions, with their T-bar clamps.
*Side Note*I have played with many different types and materials for the transitions, and the Hose Techniques pieces are just plain badass. I have become a dealer for them now, so if you want their hose kits or need any special pieces made, contact me off list and I will forward the request to their tech guys. *End Side Note*

As you all know, I have been working very hard on these products for the Foci. Along with the tuning, and the intakes, I also have an exhaust system now. The price is a bit more than the Borla, BUT, the quality can NOT be beat. That I promise you. Here is a teaser pic until I can get the other pics sized and adjusted to post here.

http://hypnotic-illusions-auto.com/sitefiles/images/hiaexhaustfinal.JPG

essveetee
06-17-2005, 08:51 AM
Originally posted by essveetee
Wayne,

Any more info about a heat shield of some sort?

How are you supporting that elbow, just by the hose couplers on the TB?

Have you fitted one of these to a car w/ a strut tower brace? It looks like it would interfere...

Thanks!

Anything?

SVT ewx ca
06-17-2005, 10:47 AM
The thing is SVTs loose power with aftermarket exhaust. You will gain sound + appearence tho....but that sorta makes it hard to sell a performance product.
If an exhaust dyno'ed 1hp+ on an svt focus, I would love to see the dyno.
The stock SVT exhaust is fantastic, just not that loud or flashy...

Can't wait to get my intake next Thursday :)

PS I know that exhaust picture isnt your final product, but for sure you won't want to have a 3 sectioned exhaust that you have to WELD together, that almost defeats the point of having a mandrel bend exhaust... =P

essveetee
06-17-2005, 12:21 PM
Originally posted by SVT ewx ca
PS I know that exhaust picture isnt your final product, but for sure you won't want to have a 3 sectioned exhaust that you have to WELD together, that almost defeats the point of having a mandrel bend exhaust... =P

Why not? That is how Borla's kit is designed. If you use good slip joints and nice band clamps, you be good and it will never leak. My car definitely ran better with an aftermarket exhaust, although I don't have a dyno plot of it. Was it phenomenal? No. Was it noticeable? Yes, more so at the top of the rev range. It depends what you are after. I bought the MBRP because I wanted a different sound and whatever power I could get. Then I got sick of the noise so went with the Borla. After having the Borla on the car for a while now, I can't stand the sound of the stock exhaust (although I was never crazy about it...at times it sounded ricey to me).

SVT ewx ca
06-17-2005, 03:37 PM
You wont leak but you will get an interior exhaust weld splash on the inside of your nice mandrel pipes. Sectioned exhaust that is bolt together with gaskets is optimal, boral is still good...

coleslaststand
06-19-2005, 01:14 AM
Wayne's short ram is on the way ... yee haw ... polished red because my extensive research has shown that red is the fastest color ...

jb10fan
06-19-2005, 12:30 PM
Originally posted by Hypnotic
That price is for the Xcal1 and the intake.
The Xcal2 and the intake is $490 (saving you $30 over purchasing them seperately).
Yes, the first run of the new version is coming out next week. They will be available in polished, blue (going to TRY to match the Sonic Blue), red, black, silver. I will have them custom color coated in Comp Orange or Screaming yellow for a bit more. I will let you know what the "bit" is when I get the pricing from the powder coater tomorrow.
I have also decided to go with a BLACK filter, and black Hose Techniques transitions, with their T-bar clamps.
*Side Note*I have played with many different types and materials for the transitions, and the Hose Techniques pieces are just plain badass. I have become a dealer for them now, so if you want their hose kits or need any special pieces made, contact me off list and I will forward the request to their tech guys. *End Side Note*

As you all know, I have been working very hard on these products for the Foci. Along with the tuning, and the intakes, I also have an exhaust system now. The price is a bit more than the Borla, BUT, the quality can NOT be beat. That I promise you. Here is a teaser pic until I can get the other pics sized and adjusted to post here.

http://hypnotic-illusions-auto.com/sitefiles/images/hiaexhaustfinal.JPG

Thanks for the info, sorry to sound like a dumby, but what is the difference between xcal 1 and xcal 2? I have no use for data logging. Not smart enough to use it probably lol. thanks!

SVT ewx ca
06-21-2005, 01:41 AM
Hey Wayne-

This is Kyle, black svt sri intake and cam gear, ordered last week. Still look good for Thursday? [:)] What do you do with the vaccume port on top of the engine? Do you run a line?
I will dyno it shortly after.
Thanks :)

zeke180@yahoo.com

Hypnotic
06-21-2005, 02:45 PM
Originally posted by jb10fan
Thanks for the info, sorry to sound like a dumby, but what is the difference between xcal 1 and xcal 2? I have no use for data logging. Not smart enough to use it probably lol. thanks!

The main differences between the Xcal1 and 2 can be seen here:

HIA Focus Tuning Options (http://www.hypnotic-illusions-auto.com/Online%20Store/Focus%20Parts/Focus%20Tuning%20Options.php)


If you do not want the datalogging or code clearing feature, I offer the Xcal1s for
a bit cheaper. Same tuning goes into the device, its just the device itself that is different.

Hypnotic
06-21-2005, 02:48 PM
Originally posted by SVT ewx ca
The thing is SVTs loose power with aftermarket exhaust. You will gain sound + appearence tho....but that sorta makes it hard to sell a performance product.
If an exhaust dyno'ed 1hp+ on an svt focus, I would love to see the dyno.
The stock SVT exhaust is fantastic, just not that loud or flashy...

Can't wait to get my intake next Thursday :)

PS I know that exhaust picture isnt your final product, but for sure you won't want to have a 3 sectioned exhaust that you have to WELD together, that almost defeats the point of having a mandrel bend exhaust... =P

On the intake and cam gear, check your email please.

On the exhaust, I would love to show you that dyno. I am getting my car up on the dyno in the very near future. I should be able to show you both dynos, before exhaust and after exhaust.
I dont know who told you that string of effluence about getting no hp improvement with an exhaust!!!
I picked up .3 with the street version and over .4 with the race version of my exhaust.
Also, a flanged exhaust(aka Focus Sport) can cause issues as well with ill seating flanges and misaligned pipes, for the same "splash" effect.