: Predator Help
1turbofocus 03-18-2005, 07:40 AM Ford PC Interface
In order to do a custom tune, you will need you to acquire a few things
1) Your vehicle's model, year and if possible box code or calid. Please write this down and double check to make sure it is accurate. You will be using this to name a file with.
2) Serial Cable:
Standard straight-through DB9 (9-pin to 9-pin) RS232C serial cable (6 foot cable is more than enough). Check your computer to see if you have a male or a female port on the back, as some are different. You will need a male end to go into your Predator.
3) Power Adapter:
CLASS 2 TRANSFORMER
OUTPUT : 12VDC 1000mA (1 Amp)
Center is positive and outside is negative
Radio Shack normally carries both of these items. Most Wal-Marts have the Power Adapter (multi output version).
Note: If you have a laptop, you can use the vehicle's power to power up the Predator, instead of using a Power Adapter, and just do the following with your laptop and Predator inside of your vehicle.
Install this file to the default directory of its choice.
1: On the Predator, go to "Performance Tune", choose the Tune that you wish to use (Performance or Pulley, depending on your level of modifications), then go to "Modify Tune, Reset All Parameters", now once this completes, hit "Esc" and go to "Install Tune" and let it upload the tune again. This will upload the defaulted Predator tune's performance settings onto your pcm (meaning no modifications made to the fans, shift points, fuel, timing, etc.). Do NOT send me any file with changes made to your fuel or timing. This is VERY important!!!
2: After this is done, go to "Troubleshooting", then "Read Extra Tune", follow prompts and complete this process. This process will read the current tune in the vehicle and temporarily save it so it can be transferred to your PC. This normally takes approx. 2 min. or less. You MUST complete this step, otherwise any file that you send to me will NOT be readable.
3: Once you complete this, open the Predator PC Interface (Xmodem), go to "Options, Port Settings", and ensure that the proper COM port is selected, as well as the proper baud rate on both the software (default on the software is 115200), and also on the Predator (default on the Predator is 57600). You can change the Predator's baud rate by going to "Options, Serial Baud". Please try 57600 on both, first. You will also need this setting to be selected in your Device Manager in Windows for your COM port, so please check to make sure this setting also matches the other two.
4: Hook your Predator up to your PC via the Serial Cable and power the Predator on via the power adapter.
5: On the Predator go to "Options" then "Custom Tune", then select "Export Custom Tune". Select "Extra Tune" and it will start counting up to 100%. On the next prompt do NOT hit "Continue", yet.
6: Then in your Predator PC Interface (Xmodem) software on your PC, click "Get File", enter a file name. PLEASE enter your model/year/boxcode or cali for the file name with either "perf" or "pulley" on the end of it, depending on which file you are sending to me (ex: 03cobraYDH1pulley.frg ) This is VERY important!!!
7: Continuing, once you name the file, click on "OK", and a warning prompt will appear that states, "Connect the Predator and start the Xmodem transfer before pressing OK". Do NOT hit "OK" yet. On your Predator hit "Continue" (Enter), and THEN on your computer hit "OK". This will start transferring the file.
Note: If using 57600 does not work, please change all 3 to 115200 and try all the steps above, again. If by any means you restart the Predator PC Interface Program (Xmodem), and you originally changed and successfully used the baud setting at 57600, you will need to go back and change to that baud rate again, as the Predator PC Interface (Xmodem) program defaults to 115200 each time. Also, the Predator tool itself defaults to a 57600 baud rating, so if you power down the Predator and then power it back up, you will need to change it to 115200 only if you find that you need to use that baud rate setting.
We will build your new tune from this file, and then I will email it back to you and you will download it into the Predator the same way (instructions are below). Please list me all your mods line item style (a new line break after each mod), from the intake to the exhaust. Also, please note what all changes you want done and any issues that you are having now.
To reinstall the new file that you're sent as a "Custom Tune", do the following:
1: On the Predator go to "Options" then "Custom Tune", then select "Import Custom Tune". On the next prompt do NOT hit "Continue", yet.
2: Then in your Predator PC Interface (Xmodem) software on your PC, click "Send File", select the file that you saved that you wish to use, and click on "Open". A "File Transfer Status" dialog box will open up.
3: On your Predator hit "Continue" (Enter). This will start transferring the file.
Note: Remember, if you get time outs or if you aren't getting any communication, to please check your baud settings as you previous did when transferring the file from the Predator to the PC.
4: Install this tune into the pcm as your normally would.
Note: To erase any custom tune out of the Predator and go back to the previous included tuning that came with the Predator default, go to "Options, Custom Tune, Erase Custom Tune".
Tom
svtfocus2k4 03-19-2005, 10:41 AM Thats all great Tom but how in the world can I use any of that if the real problems arent defined in the simple walk through.
Any time I try to stream data I get small window that says "Select PID's in tree view". Well there is only one on there and it wont let me click on it. When I click on the PID icon it comes up and says communicating and will stay that way for days.
I have changed the com prot and baud rate a million times and nothing has changed.
What am I doing wrong?
1turbofocus 03-19-2005, 12:27 PM No idea , Im not good on getting the PC to work with the Predator as to walk you through and fine what isnt set correctly with your PC, There are to many diff systems ,98 , se , xp , and on and on
Did you call Diablo sport for help
Tom
svtfocus2k4 03-19-2005, 04:50 PM As you can tell I am not good with figuring it out either. I get mad too easy. LOL!
I will call Diablo first thing next week and see what they have to say.
Should using a 9 pin to printer/modem port serial cable be a problem? It should just change what com port I need to use.
I sent you an email with a few different questions that I wont post on here. If you can will you reply to that email.
Thanks for being patient with me Tom,
B
1turbofocus 03-19-2005, 06:47 PM Hmmm looked didnt get it shoot it to me again
Tom
svtfocus2k4 03-19-2005, 07:07 PM email sent.
Also here is what Sidney sent me to help. Hopefully this can help someone else out later down the road.
This may take a min so you might want to print this or take notes. Right click on my computer then click on properties, then go to hardware, then device manager, then click the plus sign next to ports, then right click on comunications port (it should also say what com port it is assigned to), then click on properties. Once all this is pulled up just lets start with a clean slate, make sure on device status it says "This device is working proplerly", then click on port settings, mine reads as follows and since mine works with the predator ok just match them up:
Bits per second: 115200
Data Bits: 8
Parity: None
Stop Bits: 1
Flow Control: None
Then below this click on advanced, then make sure "use fifo buffers" check box is empty (not selected). Then change the com port number to com 2 or one from the drop down menu that is not used (it will say "in use" if that com port is not available.
Next click on Driver and make sure it says Microsoft and then click update driver just to make sure you have the newest one.
Skip the Details tab
then click on Resources and at the bottom make sure it says "No Confilicts".
After all this your com port should be working and all set up. Power up your Predator (hook it up in the car) and hook up the serial cable to it and your laptop (make sure they both have a good conection. Then with the predator booted up to the screen that says "Custom Tune" "Diagnostics" and "Options" click on "Options", then scroll down to "Serial Baud" and since we set your laptop to "115200" we set the Predator to "115200" after this press "ESC" on the predator and keep doing so untill you are at the main menu (Custom Tune" "Diagnostics" and "Options" screen) then while at the main menu open the "CMR DAT" program on your laptop. Click on Options, then Port settings, and match it up with what ever was selected on laptop ( I sugested com 2), the on the same screen select "Baud 115K" and click "OK". after this go to streaming and click on "Start" after this I am not too sure what to do since I don't have it hooked up to my computer or my car but if you get this far and have a conection you can play around with it and figure out the stuff. The only thing you have to remember is you can only monitor six settings in the live stream mode, other than that every thing is great. When you are done click on the red box (stop) and it will stop the data stream and ask you at some point if you would like to save the data log. Click yes and note the spot it is saved and there you go.
sidney61199 03-19-2005, 07:22 PM Did this work for you?
svtfocus2k4 03-19-2005, 07:43 PM nope. It keeps saying "select PID's in tree mode". There is only one icon in that area and nothing happens when I click on it.
i asume this is only for svt right ?
Any luck yet, svtfocus2k4?
Nuts.
I consider myself "semi-computer-literate", but it sure would be nicer if this were a more simple process.
Be sure to let us know how it works out for you......
pio
I'm relatively certain this is SVTF specific, as these instructions are for the Diablo "flash tuner".
I don't think you need to worry about this with a "chip tuner".
sidney61199 03-21-2005, 08:34 PM I think the last time he pm'd me he is looking into trying to get the 9pin cable hooked up to his dads laptop due to not having a 9pin on his. I think if you follow the instructions I provided (plus what is above my post) and you use the 9pin cable you can't lose.
Hmmm.
I better check out our computer, before I purchase something I can't use.
Actually, I still haven't decided which tuner I'm going with,
but I know I'm getting something before our first A/C event on April 17th.[;)]
What do I look for as far as a 9 pin connector on our computer?
I was assuming this would be a USB connection, but it's different than that?
sidney61199 03-21-2005, 09:41 PM This is a really bad pic but it is the only one I could find of a 9 pin on the back of a pc http://charm.cs.uiuc.edu/users/olawlor/ref/pc_ports/serial_db9.jpg . This is what you need to hook up the predator to the laptop. There are usb conversion/adapters out there, you would have to check with radio shack about that. If you use all the info provided above and the straight 9 pin to 9 pin cable to hook the Predator to your pc/laptop it will/should work.
svtfocus2k4 03-21-2005, 09:46 PM Well what Tom has told me is I need a USB to 9 pin. The problem with that was I only have a CD drive and no floppy drive and the only USB to 9 pin that I could find came with a floppy(almost all new laptops dont come with a floppy anymore). Tom informed me of a certain brand USB to 9 pin that comes with a CD. I am going to try to find one of those to see if things work. If not then I am going to get a power supply so I can hook up my predator to power in the house and then try it on my fathers CPU.
I will post up as soon as I get this stuff resolved and also make a new thread (maybe someone can make a sticky) with the help of Sidney that will explain everything that is needed to get your predator up and working with your CPU or laptop.
sidney61199 03-21-2005, 10:13 PM You cold also buy that one with a floppy and find a friend or someone who haves a pc with a floppy and a cd burner and just copy/burn the floppy contents onto a cd. Just a sugestion. If your dads pc has a 9 pin conector (check pic above) I would just get a 9 pin to 9 pin cable and use his pc in your car. Even if you get the a/c adapter and use his pc to upload log files you would need the 9 pin conector or a usb/9 pin cable to make the conection. Good luck.
1turbofocus 03-22-2005, 06:18 AM If your PC is USB you will need a adaptor for USB to 9 pin I O Gear is what i used
Install the adaptor software , pick the correct baud rate and COM port and you are ready to use the Predator
Tom
This thread is now a "sticky".[;)]
svtfocus2k4 04-16-2005, 07:35 PM I am back online and moved into my new house. I have really missed you sorry fools. LOL!
I also have a serial to USB with a CD to format on its way this week. Hopefully this will resolve my problems no matter if it is tune related or we figure out for sure that it isnt and I can get whatever it is lined out.
focusonthefocus 04-17-2005, 02:01 PM would a macintosh laptop work ok?
1turbofocus 04-17-2005, 04:09 PM Hmm, I have no idea , I think they offer both versions but need to check with Diablo Sport
Tom
sidney61199 04-17-2005, 05:22 PM I would say no unless the programs you get from the diablo web site are writen for mac. I think they only have them for windows. If they do have the programs for mac then yes it would work.
http://www.diablosport.com/Downloads.php
edweird 05-06-2005, 10:45 PM Originally posted by svtfocus2k4
Thats all great Tom but how in the world can I use any of that if the real problems arent defined in the simple walk through.
Any time I try to stream data I get small window that says "Select PID's in tree view". Well there is only one on there and it wont let me click on it. When I click on the PID icon it comes up and says communicating and will stay that way for days.
I have changed the com prot and baud rate a million times and nothing has changed.
What am I doing wrong?
So far I have been able to log data into the Predator, and then bring it inside the house and download it to my notebook using the CMR_DAT application menu option Tools>Get Log File from Predator. I can open it using the menu option File>Open>Log File
So far, working in the Log and Chart screens has not been easy. The downloadable users manual for CMR_DAT is really lacking instructions, and there's no Help in the application.
I'll have to try the streaming option with the notebook hooked up to the Predator while it's hooked to the car sometime.
Using the Predator Ford PC Interface program, I was able to Get File From Predator and save it to my hard drive. I'm not certain why, when, or how you'd use this or the Send File Option. The instructions in the user guide and application don't really explain things. I think it has to do with Custom Tunes and maybe having more than one tune you can load, and moving the different ones in and out of the Predator.
On the other hand, installing the custom tune, and using the diagnostics menus to check and clear codes on the Predator couldn't be easier.[thumb]
Ed
1turbofocus 05-07-2005, 06:17 AM That is correct , You can download and load into your predator custom tunes that i send you and store them on your PC
Tom
SVTDavan 08-09-2005, 12:32 PM Originally posted by sidney61199
I would say no unless the programs you get from the diablo web site are writen for mac. I think they only have them for windows. If they do have the programs for mac then yes it would work.
http://www.diablosport.com/Downloads.php
When you pick Ford -> Focus -> SVT there are no downloads listed. Where do I get the PC software from?
SVTDavan 08-09-2005, 01:22 PM Okay. I found the software. I chose mustang instead and there it was.
Anyways. I have no clue what I'm doing.
Originally posted by 1turbofocus
2: After this is done, go to "Troubleshooting", then "Read Extra Tune",
This option doesn't exist on mine. What am I doing wrong?
When I try to export the extra tune, it fails. It sits processing at 0 percent, then will eventually fail.
When I try to export the original backup, it fails. Right away it says "Error: Original backup does not exist on svt_focus tools."
1turbofocus 08-09-2005, 06:33 PM You wont be anle to load a tune till some one sends you one , Also you cant download the mustang down and expect that to work with the Focus , those are updates for the predator it self , I will contact diablo tommorrow and see why the Focus one isnt working
What are you trying to do
Tom
SVTDavan 08-09-2005, 06:59 PM It was the CMR_DAT windows dat viewer that I got from the mustang section. I was just trying to transfer a realtime log from the predator to the computer.
Then I got caught up trying to see if I could store my original tune, and my extra tune (the rich tune that i'm running now - my dyno/tuner guy put in so i could limp my car home) onto the pc.
1turbofocus 08-09-2005, 10:30 PM Ill be glad to get you running with a tune till you can get back to the dyno, I can email it to you
Tom
SVTDavan 08-10-2005, 09:50 AM Originally posted by 1turbofocus
Ill be glad to get you running with a tune till you can get back to the dyno, I can email it to you
Tom
That would be incredible, Tom. I'd really appreciate that. My email is dwong@mtroyal.ca
The only mods on the SVTF that would matter (aside from the turbo, of course) are the 42 pound injectors.
Thanks a ton!
[:)]
BlueOvalFan 08-16-2005, 05:03 PM hi tom i was wondering if you had a shop in NC? i was wanting to drive down to you and get my svtf tuned, and wondering how much it would run. imj only in Va let me know thankx
North Belmont, NC
http://www.focus-power.com/view_printable.php?showme=Our_Shop&nolink=1
Tom,
I still haven't been able to test the TC defeat.
I can't seem to find the program you were talking about that I need to load to the PC,
in order to load the new tune to the Predator.
This is what I need, isn't it?
Predator PC Interface (Xmodem) software on your PC
All I find on their site is this:
http://diablosport.com/Downloads_U7144.php#downloadupdate
Clicking on download does nothing.[:(]
sidney61199 08-16-2005, 09:33 PM WD40, pm me your email and I'll send it to you as e-mail. There are two programs you need Ford Predator PC interface and the CMR Dat viewer. I looked and looked and could not find a link to the two programs on Diablo's site so they must have moved them or some thing. Any ways there small programs and as long as you have broad brand it would only take a min tops for me to e-mail them to you so drop me a line and I'll get it out to you.
Easiest was to test the T/C defeat is disable is rev it up to about 4500 rpm's and just pop the clutch (not completly litarly but you get the idea) if its disabled you can spin em real good. I about sh!t my self when a little smoke started to rise (thank god it was my old set of tires). If the T/C is not completly disabled it'll bog down like hell.
scrammer 08-14-2007, 04:53 PM before someone says it, i know this thread is frikkin ancient. but my question can prove useful to everyone who reads it.[thumb]
While running DSDownloader in advanced mode. It gives you the option to add more than just one tune on the list. will it send all the tunes to the Predator?
jrpasmo 08-14-2007, 04:57 PM DSDownloader is used for all Predators not only for SVT Focus version, so I think some of those Predators can hold more then one tune as they can also modify tunes uploaded into them what our Predator can't do....
scrammer 08-14-2007, 05:24 PM is it possible to obtain a copy of the CMR tuning software. so i can tweak my tunes myself?
Ecko200X 11-03-2007, 05:37 PM Ford PC Interface
2: After this is done, go to "Troubleshooting", then "Read Extra Tune", follow prompts and complete this process. This process will read the current tune in the vehicle and temporarily save it so it can be transferred to your PC. This normally takes approx. 2 min. or less. You MUST complete this step, otherwise any file that you send to me will NOT be readable.
Tom
Iv'e Tried This, But When I Go To options, Trouble Shooting On My Predator. There Is No Read Extra Tune Option. Help Please.
1turbofocus 11-05-2007, 04:24 PM Why do you need to read and keep the current tune ?
Tom
tczx3 06-19-2008, 04:33 PM Tom, so i bought a predator with your custom SVT tune on it. Does that mean that basically all i have to do is upload it like normal, go to performance tune and hit continue or do i go to options custom tune and then say export tune. Basically, is your tune the only tune on the device or is there the original tune and your tune on it?
1turbofocus 06-19-2008, 06:21 PM If you didnt buy it from me and it has been used before then I doubt at the top it sais custom tune , More then likely it sais Performance tune and that is the basic Diablo tune not mine
If you use my tune from a used predator you take a 80% chance of locking either the ECU and or the Predator and there is no warranty on either
Tom
KRYPTO 09-02-2008, 03:35 PM Help ASAP
Tom got your predator in the mail today. When to download the tune but I first have to save my original. It starts saving then stops and says it cant save it because it already has a performance tune or something? I made 4 attempts at this with no luck.
What am I doing wrong if anything.
Thanks
xryan85X 01-15-2009, 01:34 AM ^^^I know the previous comment is quite old, but the same thing happened to me. Eventually I got the tune to load, but what was happening?
1turbofocus 01-15-2009, 07:22 AM Did you try pulling your fuses 46/61 ?
Tom
jrpasmo 01-15-2009, 08:32 AM Tom as I'm out of continent for some time, could you pls. tell me if there is any final word from Predator team about single licence for tuning softw. ?
Thx
1turbofocus 01-15-2009, 01:45 PM Nothing at this time , it is being worked on
Tom
xryan85X 01-15-2009, 11:39 PM Did you try pulling your fuses 46/61 ?
Tom
No, I didn't. The tune eventually took, is this something that I should have done in the first place?
1turbofocus 01-16-2009, 07:12 AM The new files load with out pulling fuses on about 99% of the SVT but that 1% is driving me crazy to figure out , just try it next time and see if it helps
Now do you have the "Custom Tune" or the "Performance Tune installed now ?
Tom
xryan85X 01-16-2009, 04:54 PM I'm at work now, so I can't be 100% sure, I'm pretty sure it I loaded the "custom tune"
CaysE 02-03-2009, 11:58 PM Hey there Tom,
I've been using your tune for some time now and I love it. I recently got the PC interface kit, and noticed there is a revision update "9r01" available from Diablosport. The revision on the Predator says "v.7r91."
Do you recommend updating the Predator, or will this cause me problems when I go to swap my stock tune back on the car?
1turbofocus 02-04-2009, 08:20 AM There is no reason to update the CROM file
CAUTION if you do update the CROM , MAKE SURE you restore origional back up FIRST if you dont you will lock up your Pred
Tom
CaysE 02-04-2009, 09:44 AM I feel like I might be out of options, because I can't pull a log file off the Predator at all. IT is my profession and this serial connection has been driving me in circles.
I'm pretty sure I will lose your custom tune if I restore the original backup. Could you email a tune to me with TC defeat and a high-flow cat? casey.rauth at verizon.net
1turbofocus 02-04-2009, 02:17 PM Send me an email with your full name and I will get you a copy of it and a copy of my latest CROM file , just make sure you restore origional before changing crom
Tom
scrammer 02-07-2009, 10:14 AM Cayse, i updated the firmware to Diablo's latest. it is awesome! the Predator is much faster than before. it has more options and best of all...no need to pull fuses!!
like Tom said though, you need to restore the car to the original backup before updating the firmware.
Tom...my question for you. i recently got a laptop with no serial connector. im sure i can connect to it via USB. but how? i dont understand the drivers that are listed on Diablo's site.
thanks.
CaysE 02-07-2009, 11:40 AM USB-to-serial converters are an enormous headache. It is most important to make sure you buy an adapter that is compatible with your OS! I bought the Summit kit (which I believe is DiabloSport's own kit), and it isn't compatible with Vista x64.
Beyond that, just follow the directions earlier in this thread to make sure all the serial port settings are correct.
ysrpilot 02-21-2009, 04:45 PM I bought a IOGEAR GUC232A USB to Serial Adapter from cyberguys.com and it does work great and has drivers for vista X64 (on IOGEAR's website). I've used it since for a couple years now and had no problems.
Also, yes, I can't say it enough, put your stock tune back on the car prior to upgrading the CROM. I didn't (the directions that I had didn't say anything about it) and I had to reflash the car at the dealer to be able to change tunes, and have Diablosport reset my Predator. Big pain and $100 for the reflash plus a tow to the dealer when Diablosport had me to force the tune back on the car and it locked the ECU. Listen to Tom.
Again, if you really want to upgrade to the latest, put the stock tune back on the car!!!
Good luck and have fun.
trboescortgeorge 03-05-2009, 04:53 PM reading this thread and have a question. do later model predators have this update. just got ,mines today and want to know if mines is a new version to what earlier predators are with toms tune. do i take the same steps in installing tune into car. or is there a different way. i have the 9r01 version
trboescortgeorge 03-05-2009, 06:25 PM ive installed tune with no problems. posted what i did in installing tune thread
darkstarmotorsports 06-17-2009, 01:32 AM I just purchased a used predator with a USB data and power cable. Would i be able to remove that tune, and either replace it with Tom's tune or the SVTF tune off the diablo website?
Also, where is my PCM code in my SVTF? (I know, stupid question)
apex214 06-20-2009, 09:55 PM There is no reason to update the CROM file
CAUTION if you do update the CROM , MAKE SURE you restore origional back up FIRST if you dont you will lock up your Pred
Tom
OK, here's a basic question about terminology: Is "restore original backup" translated as "return the car to stock tune"?? Yeah yeah, I know...stupid question, but some phrases are a bit ambiguous, especially considering the damage that can be done by a misunderstanding.
BTW, the other concept I want to be 100% sure of is "grabbing a copy of the original backup"...or something like that. Regarding (re)installing a custom tune to the Predator and then to the car, I understand the Predator needs to have a copy of the stock tune. Diablo says to start the process of loading the performance tune onto the car, then exit after the stock tune has been backed up onto the Predator. Problem is, the last time I went through this (emissions testing again...argh) the Predator showed nothing about the backup occurring, and no way to stop the whole process at that point, so I just completely installed the Diablo performance tune onto the car, then attempted to load the custom tune onto the Predator from my Vista (junk!) PC. It did seem to work, as the Predator did eventually show "custom tune" in the menu. Any comments to clarify things would be appreciated! [race]
EDIT: You can all continue to ignore this post...I figured it out on my own.
Humbug...
cheech 08-21-2009, 06:21 PM Hi Tom My gauge cluster in my svtf took a dump.i have new cluster on order but the ford tech says the car has to be reflashed or it wont start.Will that mean i will loose your tune the tech did not know. thanks[cheers]
1turbofocus 02-23-2010, 08:19 AM You need to "Restore Origional Backup" just to be safe
Tom
kamann 04-17-2010, 04:33 PM Tom help. I went to put my stock tune back on because i have to take it to the dealer for some work. The instructions said to select performance tune, but on mine it said custom tune, and go through the same steps as installing a diablosport tune and after the on screen instructions select "original backup". Mine didn't do that. It told me to turn the key off/on, waited a few seconds, then told me to turn key on and it started writing vehicle. It never gave me the option of "restore original backup". After it wrote it said tune is done , unplug tool and drive. So i drove and it feels like stock i quess, but how can i be sure? Did i do it coerrect? Also i did pull the 46/61 fuses. Also how would i acess "last tune written"? I tried looking under options but i never saw that.
kamann 04-17-2010, 08:27 PM ok, problem solved. I had to go into options, then trouble shooting to find restore to original backup.
1turbofocus 04-17-2010, 11:51 PM Yep , glad you got it going , sorry took a few days off
Tom
kamann 04-18-2010, 01:15 AM No problem Tom, if anyone deserves days off its you. I'll send you an email monday for a copy of the custom tune, cause its gone now and says performance tune, thanks.
BlackJack03 05-30-2010, 12:55 PM Hey Tom--just bought a tune from you. Tried installing it today and the Predator keeps saying
Original backup file NOT saved. This could be because there was already a custom tune installed.
I'm about 99% sure no owners have ever had a tune installed.
The Predator HAS been used before. My theory is that the previous owner's backup file is stored on there somehow--or is that supposed to get overwritten when you back up your own file?
How do you know if the Predator is locked? Also if an ECU is locked does it just not start?
I DID update the CROM file because I wanted it to be the most current and have no issues. I don't see exactly how this would affect me since I hadn't connected the Predator to my car previously, but I'm not an IT wizard.
Any ideas? Anyone, doesn't have to be Tom.
BlackJack03 05-30-2010, 12:57 PM Double post.
1turbofocus 05-30-2010, 09:20 PM Sounds like there might be a tune in the car , You may have to go to Ford and get a reflash done to your SVT then load the tune
Tom
BlackJack03 05-31-2010, 10:14 AM Sounds like there might be a tune in the car , You may have to go to Ford and get a reflash done to your SVT then load the tune
Tom
I really don't think there is. It has all the weird symptoms of the stock tune on every single startup. Does that message ONLY come up when there is already a tune?
BlackJack03 06-02-2010, 09:08 AM Bump ^
blackjack 07-17-2010, 02:35 AM Tom,
I purchased, a used predator with a blower tune(Which I'm not planning on using) I bought the USB-9Pin cable off ebay for like $1, and I used my OBD2 port on the car to power on the predator.
But the predator still didn't make a connection with my laptop, even after downloading the new version of the DSinstaller.
I notice that the predator was orginally for a 04-08 F-150, but has been reflashed by diablo for the SVT focus. When using the "Auto Connect" Function, do I choose U7144(SVT Focus) or U7151(F-150)?
kamann 08-05-2010, 01:42 PM Tom I have a couple of questions. How do I get the original backup from my tool to my computer? The help menu says use "performance tune" menu then follow instructions, when I tried that it told me to turn key on, but i'm at my PC not my car. It won't let me download your custom tune that you emailed me until I can save the original backup to the tool.
Other question is when I go into the options menu on the tool it already shows custom tune. When I select that it says "import custom tune", "export custom tune" and "erase custom tune". I don't understand what the import and export stuff means. I assume the custom tune has to be on the main bootup menu to be able to load onto car.
1turbofocus 08-05-2010, 09:03 PM What do you need the origional backup to your PC for ?
Tom
kamann 08-06-2010, 02:19 AM When I try to send your custom tune that you emailed me to the tool, a box pops up and says:
"original backup required to send this tune to tool. If you do not yet have an original backup file, click no and then use 'get tune from file from tool' to download original backup from tool. Otherwise click yes to select an existing backup file."
So basicly until I can get the original backup from the tool to my PC using DDS Downloader it won't let me load your custom tune to the tool.
blkSVTfocus 09-10-2010, 02:09 PM Tom,
When I bought my '04 SVT it had a predator tune installed. I was wanting to take the tune out and see how the car would run without it. I have a problem though. The handheld has taken a dump and will no longer load up. Any suggestions on what to do?
1turbofocus 09-10-2010, 03:03 PM Give me a call 704-249-3745
Tom
blkSVTfocus 09-10-2010, 03:25 PM Thanks Man!! Hopefully my buddy Brad gets on this and sends the handheld ASAP...
LongIsland04SVT 12-31-2010, 12:24 PM Hi Tom,
I just sent you this email and it bounced back to me;
New SVT Focus owner here and I've been reading all your posts on Focus Fanatics. Great stuff, and I am ready to try your tune with the DiabloSport. Can you send me a quote on the unit with your tune? I can pay right away via PayPal.
I used your tom@focus-power.com email address. Can you please email me back a quote?
Warm Regards & Happy New Year!
Jim Weber jweber5@optonline.net
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svt2nv04 12-31-2010, 08:27 PM Try hpdyno@aol.com.
JeepXJ 04-01-2011, 07:37 AM Just for clarification, when you start the process of installing Toms tune do I need to email him a file from my programmer first, or will I receive something from Tom first?
I'm reading the OP and the line "Install this file to the default directory of its choice." part is confusing me... not super hard to do lol.
Thanks.
1turbofocus 04-01-2011, 05:21 PM You should not need to send me a file to load your tune
Tom
JeepXJ 04-01-2011, 08:27 PM Broke me car!!!
I followed the instructions to get the tune onto the predator, which didnt mention that the dss software requires you to take a backup??
I pointed the backup file to My Documents where it now sits. I reboot the predator and go through the tune install... it fails at about 70%, tells me to remove the predator plug. Car doesnt start and I have - - - in the odo. I figure no big deal I'll restore. Plug in the predator and it says failed to install last tune would I like to restore to original, yes, and that now fails at about 70% as well. Now the predator will only ask me to restore original witch fails every time I try at 70%.
Current plan;
I'm powering the predator with the car, I'm getting a buddy to come pick me up and take me to the local RadShack for a power adapter..seems like I could break that boot/fail to load problem if I take the car out of the equation... hopefully!
Afloyd 02-26-2012, 09:43 PM Tom I have a stock svt i won't to do bolt ons what is the best tune and some stuff to do to get more power
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