: Focus RS & Focus Cosworth - How much are you willing to pay?


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RockyhelpU
12-16-2004, 04:14 PM
No you are correct. But the SVT Cobra is a "unique" vehicle.

I guess it's open to interpretation. Maybe what they meant to say was that they weren't going to be making POS's like the SVT Focus that has a tendency to see the shop floor more than the street. Of course that's a biased opinion so take it for what it's worth.

Arauthator
12-16-2004, 05:18 PM
Ok, what am I missing here, how do you guys "know" that the RS or Cosworth won't be coming to the US?

RockyhelpU
12-16-2004, 05:34 PM
Oh it could be here tomorrow for a substantial price tag.

There is however some debate wether it would be manufactured here do to some of the safety features require by law and certain emissions criteria.

Guess someone will have to call ford to get the "real" answer. As far as I know when they developed the SVT, SVT worked closely with Cosworth during design as far as engine. If the Cosworth was coming wouldn't you think they would have just sold those instead.

Bottom line, a focus is a focus is a focus and we will never attain the fame of the civic.

^^LOL^^ that's a joke people, LAUGH NOW!!

Arauthator
12-17-2004, 07:08 AM
Not necessarily, but since everyone is posting opinion....I might as well too.

The 2005 Ford GT is here.

The 2005 Mustang GT has now moved into the Corvette territory.

Ford needs a car to answer Chevrolet's Cobalt.....the Focus will be that answer.

Ford has to keep up with the competition, and they will. May not be RS or Cosworth, then again it might, but you can bet, that the Focus will undergo changes to keep up with that Cobalt.

SinCityZX3
12-24-2004, 04:08 PM
Ford thinks that the Focus isnt "upscale enough" to keep it on the SVT line.
Euro AND japan have it made ... all these bad-ass cars and HERE its all soap box cars i mean WTF!!! My cousin in germany got a RS like almost 2 years ago AND he LOVES it.

I think that if the sales of the RSX, Impreza, Lancer EVO, crappy Neon SRT, and the NEW Chevt Cobalt RISE then they MIGHT make a new model or might as well bring the RS over. After all i will give my right nut for one, in a heart beat....

harmonnizz
12-31-2004, 01:16 AM
I would pay 22k at the most. It should not be more expensive than the supercharged cobalt.
Better yet just buy the RS bodykit and call it a day. Of course you would need all the engine mods too. =)

Arauthator
12-31-2004, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by farkaloid
Ford thinks that the Focus isnt "upscale enough" to keep it on the SVT line.
Euro AND japan have it made ... all these bad-ass cars and HERE its all soap box cars i mean WTF!!! My cousin in germany got a RS like almost 2 years ago AND he LOVES it.

I think that if the sales of the RSX, Impreza, Lancer EVO, crappy Neon SRT, and the NEW Chevt Cobalt RISE then they MIGHT make a new model or might as well bring the RS over. After all i will give my right nut for one, in a heart beat....


Now this is exactly how a Ford Executive would think. Otherwise, it's no use in continuing with a dead product. If you guys don't know already, Ford is having trouble selling the Focus. For whatever reason....I'm not interested in that. But they are now forced to look at the program for some changes and as of right now, it's up in the air.

autocrossman
12-31-2004, 08:25 AM
Ford is making some changes now with the stereo options.. All Fords are going to have a SERIUS satellite radio option and I think if they get the Focus up in the 200hp and 220lbs of torque, with the same weight of 2,700lbs.. This car is going to be fast enough... I have a Duratec and it looses tracktion in first gear sometimes without me having to drop the clutch... The cost of the car should be around $20,000 if the 200hp mark is reached..

svtguy88
12-31-2004, 10:33 AM
I know I've already said my opinion but, a loaded 2005 Focus ZX3 is already $19,500, a performance model like the RS (or US equivelant) would cost well over $20K. I think something in the $25-30K range is more likely. Even at that price-look at the options/performance you would have and compare it to other cars in that category, I would take the Focus.

NCC28983
12-31-2004, 12:26 PM
In all honesty it's just like how subaru and Mitsubishi slowly sent the water down versions of their two biggest WRC inspired cars here (WRX, EVO) while giving them a less cooler looking body styles. It took Sub almost 10 years to bring the rex here when it was in Japan and Europe... I'm willing to bet Ford might do something stupid like give the Focus Wagon the RS or cosworth package before they make em for the sedan or zx additions.

NCC28983
12-31-2004, 12:28 PM
I would be willing to pay around the same price for an RS or a cosworth eqivalent to the wrx,sti, or evo.

Polish Freak
01-02-2005, 02:48 PM
I would pay $24,000 max for a cosworth. If Ford imports it to North America and keeps a relatively low cost, they could compete a lot better with the imports like VW and Honda.

Those are just my 2 cents. [:D]

psychobiker02563
01-15-2005, 11:09 PM
i would pay as much as 32 large for the cosworth because I could [:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)]g smoke anyone!

dispense05
01-16-2005, 12:50 AM
we need the RS and Crosworth here. Illinois has high class and ricer. its either Viper, BMW, Jag, Mercedes, or Civic, Grand AM, Grand Prix, Neon, and Aleros. which is another thing... when did an alero become a "sporty" car? my grandma drives one, but my other grandma drives a ZX3, which is why i bought one. anyways, Ford would be stupid not to bring it to at least Illinois. We are in desperate need of real cars in the cornbelt area.

focusonthefocus
01-16-2005, 02:08 PM
Bring it on Ford.

mex
01-16-2005, 02:15 PM
28,000 would be max for me.

poopycheesenuts
01-19-2005, 11:12 PM
i think ford should have thought about this before they introduced the new GT that thing is a hideous excuse for a supercar and a 30,000 dollar focus will obviously make way more money than 140,000 dollar car that looks like its from the 60s.

svtguy88
01-24-2005, 09:01 AM
How is the GT a 'hideous' excuse for a supercar? It looks great (atleast in others and my opinions), it's extremely quick, and is a (relative) bargain at 140K. Look at the other cars in that performance bracket--much more money.

RACER626
01-24-2005, 08:18 PM
i have seen a lot of posts where the SRT4 and the focus are compared, personaly after driving both a stock SRT and a MODDED ZX3 i would take the SRT, as for the RS/cossie i wouldnt pay any more for it than i would the WRX, if they actualy decided to breach the 270hp barrier maybe STI/EVO

id like to see not only the hatch made AWD but id also like to see the sedan AWD and 300hp, i think if they did that or atleast made a conversion kit that ford would sell more focus's


only reason i prefer my 88 626 is because A)i have it already B)its unique c)it takes way more abuse on a daily basis than my friends focus and its never seen more than 2 days down time for fixing


IMO the only focus that MIGHT run with a SRT stock for stock would be the SVTfocus but at only 160hp........ i dunno i have see first hand the handling that i am impressed with both cars but for drag and other forms of racing the SRT just has more power

LUNIE TUNED
02-04-2005, 06:30 PM
PUT ME DOWN ON THE RS8, OR THE ATI WHAT EVER U WANT TO KALL IT. BUT I HEARD THERE BRINGING OUT A ALL WHEEL DRIVE TURBO IN MARCH OF 05! BUT HAVNT HEARD MUCH ABOUT IT FROM FOR DEALER SHIPS. BUT THEY DO HAV A ZX3 WIT THE MUSTANG COBRA ENGINE OUT IN SOME DEALERSHIPS.

Supernovanexus
02-06-2005, 06:55 AM
One: I do not like how the hatch looks. It is ok.
Two: The cars would prolly be overpriced and could get an equal or even better car for the same.
Three: Do it urself.

beuoy1
02-09-2005, 08:15 AM
We're not going to see any of the performance models produced else where in the world by any auto maker.
First we have to look at the big picture here in the states, what is a car? For the mass majority it's nothing more than a means to get from point A to point B and they really don't care about performance but appearence. How many people do you know that just go out to find the best strecth of road? Cars here are more a sign of social statues.
Second look at what sales here, trucks! How many do you see on the road? And you now have full size trucks being made by Toyota and Nissan. ( both of which make performance minded cars...Japan and Europe only)
We are not a country of car enthusiast, just look at the popularity of Nascar, nothing more than cars going around in circles rubbing paint and let me not forget the truck series now. I attend the F1 event at Indy every year and while it draws a crowd it doesn't sale out and you don't have to put your name on a list hoping to get tickets.
For any of us to see what we desire we're going have to see a major shift in attitude, which isn't going to happen in my life time. So for now we few have to buy what is available and tune the car to our liking.
I for one would really like to see the day that I could buy what I like!

M[]nK3y
02-28-2005, 10:55 PM
OKay so i have been looking for sometime now....Does anyone know where i could buy front and rear clips from the RS online? I have found the quarter panels on a ford website but cannot find the clips anywhere? Plz help!

cct86
03-06-2005, 07:37 AM
i like it and would pay 30 grand for it

Focus Racer S2
03-08-2005, 07:44 AM
I would definately buy one. The Focus RS is awesome. If they bring it to the US I definately bring one from the US all the way here to Puerto Rico. That way I could take on the SRT-4 and the R32 GTI. Plus I bet a Focus RS cruisin the streets of Puerto Rico would look pretty damn awesome. I love everything about the Focus RS. EVERYTHING. If they export them I'd definately buy one. I wouldn't even think it twice. I'd go to the dealership trade mine in keep the other one and get the RS. I love. Just imagining sitting down on those SPARCO seats and grabbing that awesome shifter knob makes me wish I could have one to floor it all the way down and beat anyone who wants to race me. With a car like that in my garage the SRT-4's and the R32 GTI's would have no chance. Not to mention I would have the fastest focus in our club. I WANT ONE. THERE SO COOL AND FAST.

BlinkSterZX3
03-09-2005, 10:18 PM
give them all we need all the hot foci her we can get, i am seek of seeing hondas and neon, dont get me wrong i dont want every one to have a foci, but the RS would open up some door for us fanatics, into maybe getting the awd sytems or turbos or both? hopefully it would make prices go down, i reall dont want to pay for shipping across the pond

romaczx3
03-10-2005, 04:51 AM
I wouldn't pay over $25,000 for one. Actually $25,000 is pushing it. If Chrysler and GM can release FI compacts for around $20,000 then Ford needs to too. Much more and you're in 05 Mustang GT territory, and I would go with that for the price.

sparton3
03-16-2005, 02:32 PM
I think everyone in the world should just drive the actually rally RS. Then we all be happy and have our dream car. And GM can go to hell. =P

afocusu
03-27-2005, 10:42 PM
If they (Ford) would bang out an AWD with a TC or SC and still be able to keep it sub 25K I would camp out at the dealership and buy one in a heartbeat. I agree with everyone above that I would love to hand an R32 or SRT-4 it's azz on a platter.

focituner
03-27-2005, 11:12 PM
I would'nt think Twice, where do I sign......RS is the Dream that Ford will not let anyone have.

Dr_Watson
03-27-2005, 11:50 PM
i wouldn't pay more than $20 if it was FWD.
$25 if it was AWD.
it doesn't make any economical sense to pay $25+ for a FWD car when you can just go get a much better "proper" sports car for that money.
@ 30k, i think i'd just get an STi or maybe a 2yr old M3.

heh, love how the first post is from like 2 years ago...
shows how good petitions are.

joego
03-28-2005, 12:55 AM
If anyof you guys would be willing to pay 20G's for an RS why not make it your self? You can order in all the RS parts from European-parts.net or FORD, get Tom's STG1 turbo kit, new seats, breaks, and suspension. Whats all that worth? I would do it, but I got a ZX5 and the rear quarters wont fit [:(]

^-> "heh, love how the first post is from like 2 years ago...
shows how good petitions are." lol

SVTJerbo
04-08-2005, 12:13 PM
everyone doesnt just make it themselves because shelling out x,xxx dollars out of pocket is a lot different than getting something with a warranty straight from the factory that people can finance. I hate when people act like well the total cost would workout the same between buying this car and putting a turbo on it vs just buying an srt-4 but the zx3 with toms full kit would be faster blah blah... Warranty and Financing.

haunted_battleship
04-17-2005, 08:47 PM
Bring me a cosworth an ill hand you the 25-30g's i know ford an dodge have been at if for decades but ford's slackin off. the SVT line didnt last long an the focus svt had 170hp ? ok oo 40hp difference from the reg focus but the same yr dodge came out with the srt-4 230hp give or take 10-20hp for roughly the same price after taxes an it can do avrg 12-13seconds 1/4mile an we foci are sweeping up after with a 15-16sec avrg. COME ON FORD GIVE US SOMETHING TO FIGHT BACK WITH

perfect specs

240-300hp twin 2stage turbo's or SC
same wheel base as the present focus
smoother body lines
optional awd package
6spd trans
bring it down to earth about 2" from curent ride hieght
stiffer suspention
optional bells an whistles to please the eyes
an tune her to trash the 1/4mile in 10seconds or less
for a price tag of 20-30g's depending on options wanted

anyone agree?

Thomas5
04-18-2005, 06:55 PM
Up the quarter mile there to around high elevens or low twelves and its a beautiful fantasy[thumb] I think the Viper does 11's stock but i'm not sure.

EGGO
04-18-2005, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by haunted_battleship
Bring me a cosworth an ill hand you the 25-30g's i know ford an dodge have been at if for decades but ford's slackin off. the SVT line didnt last long an the focus svt had 170hp ? ok oo 40hp difference from the reg focus but the same yr dodge came out with the srt-4 230hp give or take 10-20hp for roughly the same price after taxes an it can do avrg 12-13seconds 1/4mile an we foci are sweeping up after with a 15-16sec avrg. COME ON FORD GIVE US SOMETHING TO FIGHT BACK WITH

perfect specs

240-300hp twin 2stage turbo's or SC
same wheel base as the present focus
smoother body lines
optional awd package
6spd trans
bring it down to earth about 2" from curent ride hieght
stiffer suspention
optional bells an whistles to please the eyes
an tune her to trash the 1/4mile in 10seconds or less
for a price tag of 20-30g's depending on options wanted

anyone agree?

Agreed. I'd choose about $19,000-$24,000. Anything after $25k may be asking a bit too much, as I'd probably just go for another car that's been made better for juuuust a little more money.

Morba
04-19-2005, 03:46 AM
god damn, if you lot get it for anywhere near as cheap as you want it then im gonna import a few back to the UK!

We will be paying 22k minimum for the cosworth i would imagine.... only thing is, thats 22k £! - a quick calcluation against the dieing $ and thats about $40k

EGGO
04-19-2005, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by Morba
god damn, if you lot get it for anywhere near as cheap as you want it then im gonna import a few back to the UK!

We will be paying 22k minimum for the cosworth i would imagine.... only thing is, thats 22k £! - a quick calcluation against the dieing $ and thats about $40k

If it DOES cost that much my money will be going to a WRX STi and then putting about 6k in modifications. It'll cost about the same and it'll be a better bang for the buck.

Heck, one can even get a fully loaded G35 for less than that here in the states. The one I was looking at a week ago had all of the options on it and it came out to about 34k.

svtguy88
04-19-2005, 03:36 PM
Hmm.....40K is a little much, but it should be a lot cheaper here (I would think). And to whoever posted about the 1/4 mile times, I think 10's are a little optimistic for it....well, actually pretty optimistic for ANY stock car.

davxd
04-19-2005, 06:32 PM
Originally posted by ZX3_Chick
I think it would be sweet if they brought it over here. But there's no way I'd pay over $25K for it. For over $30K I'd take a 350Z.

This woman is correct. The reason I chose a focus is because of its great price for such a GREAT CAR!![thumb]

DareDevil03
04-21-2005, 04:39 PM
COSWORTH.........*drool*

Hiroto
04-24-2005, 02:14 PM
I'm not holding my breath either way on this issue. As much as i'd love to see an RS or Cosworth in the states, it'll never happen. And even if it did, it would end up a crappy de-tuned version with ugly ass 5 mph bumpers. If I wanted an RS or Cosworth bad enough, I'd just move to the UK......... Problem solved.

America has too many rules and regulations pertaining to automobiles.

EURO04SVT
04-24-2005, 02:30 PM
I thought the SVT motor was a COSWORTH motor with SVTs name on it??

p0sitivevibez
04-29-2005, 03:37 PM
That is HOT Man I would love to smoke an import in that. (Well, an Asian import).

stance
04-30-2005, 09:27 PM
id pay 25 for one. ford needs to step up

QuickSilverSVT
05-07-2005, 10:37 AM
Originally posted by haunted_battleship
Bring me a cosworth an ill hand you the 25-30g's i know ford an dodge have been at if for decades but ford's slackin off. the SVT line didnt last long an the focus svt had 170hp ? ok oo 40hp difference from the reg focus but the same yr dodge came out with the srt-4 230hp give or take 10-20hp for roughly the same price after taxes an it can do avrg 12-13seconds 1/4mile an we foci are sweeping up after with a 15-16sec avrg. COME ON FORD GIVE US SOMETHING TO FIGHT BACK WITH

perfect specs

240-300hp twin 2stage turbo's or SC
same wheel base as the present focus
smoother body lines
optional awd package
6spd trans
bring it down to earth about 2" from curent ride hieght
stiffer suspention
optional bells an whistles to please the eyes
an tune her to trash the 1/4mile in 10seconds or less
for a price tag of 20-30g's depending on options wanted

anyone agree?

Why would you put a twin turbo on a 4 cly thats just stupid

svtguy88
05-07-2005, 12:35 PM
Well, a twin turbo four may not be practical---but nothing involving more power is stupid. I mean, theres a guy who put 8 turbos on a Chevy big block (i think-though it may have been a small block), is that practical-god no, but it's not stupid either.

Pintozx3
05-18-2005, 02:39 PM
I say no more then 24 G with at least 220hp. They go over that it better have a min. of 280hp and AWD

no_peg
05-23-2005, 07:35 PM
RS or Cosworth, either way i'd be more than willing to pay upwards of 20k :-)

Gismo
05-25-2005, 09:22 AM
Isnt it possible to have a cosworth imported from europe. and emission tuned for the US. I dont give a damn about the bumpers. Ppl shave those down ne ways too fit a authentic RS bumper to their US foci.

blkZX32005
08-23-2005, 05:55 PM
i would pay up to 30k because the possiblity of running down an srt-4 or sti would be great

BlacKnight
08-24-2005, 11:10 PM
Wonder what that would cost with "Employee Pricing?"

DrkKnight614
10-18-2005, 02:32 PM
^^^it would probably cost more[:)~]

svtguy88
10-18-2005, 03:45 PM
Wow...and I thought this thread had finally died...oh well, I guess it will live until the RS is in the States...

blacknfastsvt
10-18-2005, 07:45 PM
i want an RS dammit....ill just wait till they bring it here and then ill trade my svt...untill then ill keep pampering my sweet sexy pitch black svt...

FocusFreak87
10-22-2005, 03:23 PM
I'll take the cosworth because it looks badass bitchin, id pay 25000 to 30000 because im sure its fast and thats the point, it looks good and its fast, sweeeeett!!!

wayne newton
10-30-2005, 11:51 AM
no one would ever pay 30grand for a focus though. ford f-ed themselves in thar ass

svtguy88
10-30-2005, 08:12 PM
^^^I think the same could have been said about a Neon a few years ago, but now look at it (even if the SRT-4 isn't quite 30K).

c4nc3r
12-08-2005, 08:27 PM
hi, i am from CFH club ford hellas (greece) and i was wondering if anyone know about the cosworth bodykit.... Where can i find this bodykit???

I Pity the Fool
02-27-2006, 08:18 PM
Give me that F'in Cosworth!!!
I'd give up my CTS-V and pay mid $30k for it, easily. From what I've read, it's an M3 killer. Anything than can outrun an STi, EVO, & M3 is worth $30k in my book.

Bottom line is that Ford USA will not release a car in the states that can outperform its Mustang line. The Cosworth and RS would take away from the new Mustang GT and all future specialty V8 models (Cobra, Bullitt, Mach1's, etc). Currently, Ford dominates the Pony car market with GM axing the Camaro & Firebirds.

I hope they see the success Subaru, Mistubishi, & Dodge have been having with Sport compacts.

The Focus Cosworth is rumored to be AWD with 300hp to the wheels. With 18% driveline that's an amazing amount of power. [:0]

We will probably never see it here. [:(]

DrkKnight614
03-09-2006, 02:53 PM
^^^not true alot of people think it would take away from mustang sales and it actually wouldnt, at least not enough to make a significant impact. Most people buy the mustang for the simple fact that its a mustang, they wont care if there was a car offered by ford that was faster then it, especially if it was just a focus hatch, dont get me wrong i love the hatch but its not as widly accepted in the US.

scorpio1118_2000
05-08-2006, 09:53 PM
FoMoCo wont do it they dont have the balls, its like all they care about is the frickin' stang and the rest of the line suffers. I drove T-birds for a long time and the supercoupe was my alltime favorite, in 94/95 it was one of ford's fastest cars and to improve on it would almost mean out doing the stang. So what did they do? they killed it and came out with crappy cruiser and marked it up so high that only a few people could afford it. I dont mean to get off topic but my point is they dont want you to have any others choices than the stangs. [mad]

Jmustang68
07-03-2006, 12:47 AM
I can see some of your points about it being competition for the stang, but I don't think it would affect mustang sales that much. Like someone said earlier.. if someone is in the market for a mustang, they are not going to get a focus no matter how fast it is. It does not appeal to the pony-car enthusiast very much. Front drive is not seen as good for performance and not even having more than 4 cylinders is a big deal.
I am a convert from this way of thinking thanks to my test-drive in an SVTF after recommendation from a friend after I gave him a bad time about his SVTF... lol... funny how things work out.

svt_gEEk
07-03-2006, 12:56 AM
I'd give my right...no wait....my left nut for a focus RS [:D]

hillandl
07-04-2006, 08:01 AM
Bring on the ZX5 Version!!!!! Hehehehe

WitchCitySVT
07-05-2006, 09:47 PM
HOLY DEAD POST BATMAN

svtguy88
07-06-2006, 02:25 PM
^^^^No, holy resurrected post batman....

secondechomatt
10-12-2006, 09:12 AM
meh. for what it would cost, you can build up your run o the mill zx3 to be better, much better. The RS is not that fast. Sure the power output is a bit higher than a SVT, but with all the extra equipment, its a heavy car.
*note* before all of you RS fanboys get on me, I've driven a RS, on US roads, and wasn't really impressed, aside from the "rare" factor of the car. Well, I wasn't until I drove it again, after Garett did a very nice turbo upgrade...

pumaspeed.co.uk
11-24-2006, 03:53 PM
The focus RS is a very rounded car out of the box!
we have 2 in our company,
400bhp std looking car and a truely totalled wrecked car
we are building this to be our euro track car.

NeoStreetRacer
12-20-2006, 01:33 PM
what kind of numbers is it putting down?

vicherekt
01-08-2007, 11:50 AM
Iv got Focus RS for sale.....if interrested contact me!!!

vicherekt
01-11-2007, 10:39 AM
Hi Guys I have here FOCUS RS 2.0 Turbo 2003 For sale....as your admins dont want me to pt this up for sale in the right place I will be trying other ways cause I think you deserve to know about this!!!

THIS IS NOT SCAM....you can contact, call me I can provide you with everything to convince you this is not a scam!

I am trying to sell or exchange MY!!! FOCUS RS 2.0 Turbo...be aware....this is European version the car is in UK and would need to be imported.

The production number is 1193...I am the second owner.

I am looking to exchange for STI or EVO!

Once again....sorry to everyone....thanx to your admins....I could not put his in sale section...so i had no other chance to isert my ad...

For more info contact me if you have any questions Ill be more than happy to answer...

Take care Tomas

CKA
01-18-2007, 01:54 PM
Hi Guys I have here FOCUS RS 2.0 Turbo 2003 For sale....as your admins dont want me to pt this up for sale in the right place I will be trying other ways cause I think you deserve to know about this!!!

THIS IS NOT SCAM....you can contact, call me I can provide you with everything to convince you this is not a scam!

I am trying to sell or exchange MY!!! FOCUS RS 2.0 Turbo...be aware....this is European version the car is in UK and would need to be imported.

The production number is 1193...I am the second owner.

I am looking to exchange for STI or EVO!

Once again....sorry to everyone....thanx to your admins....I could not put his in sale section...so i had no other chance to isert my ad...

For more info contact me if you have any questions Ill be more than happy to answer...

Take care Tomas

Well that's because you did NOT have 25 posts to sell.
Then once I told you that.
You posted all over I have a Focus RS for sale. Which DOES NOT count as legit posts.
You just seem to be a scam. That is all.

TKE_Quailman
04-01-2007, 10:44 PM
i think we should get a shelby focus lol

svtguy88
04-02-2007, 05:41 PM
^^^That would be like Ford directly supporting the Focus, and allowing it to step toward the Mustang's territory....not going to happen, especially in the US.

tua03332
04-09-2007, 01:42 PM
the '67 shelby gt500 is still my favorite Ford, but if I could test drive the RS daily, i might have a close seond.

razorrik
04-10-2007, 06:58 AM
blah blah blah

focuszx3lv
05-06-2007, 09:37 PM
the cosworth is the way to goo, but i dont think it will ever hit us...

knightriderzx3
05-09-2007, 09:38 PM
do they sell the cosworth bodykit? I'm referring to the very first picture in this thread...

jinstall
05-17-2007, 12:44 AM
I will have to admit I was dissappointed in the RS after driving it.

BOOSTA
05-29-2007, 04:37 PM
the cosworth looks great, i love it, i like the dark head light and tail lights as well as that flared look, but for 30000 or more id buy an evo or a 350 z

jinstall
05-30-2007, 12:39 AM
Depending on what you used it for the MKi Focus in a 300hp AWD platform would be much better than any EVO or STi.

WRCwannabe
07-14-2007, 03:50 AM
Make it awd with a 2.0 liter engine!
make it compete with the Evo and Sti.
its also a rally car!
so why not?

Miata
07-19-2007, 10:02 PM
$19,000 - $24,000 is all I would consider. [headbang]

ottergt
07-25-2007, 06:44 PM
Low to mid $20s

--Otter

stivo
07-26-2007, 02:42 PM
The other Ford divisions have figured out how to bring these vehicles here and sell them at competitive prices. Ford should do the same, and not sell it for an arm and a leg. Sub $25K for sure.

Kal El
08-02-2007, 11:38 PM
25K-30K is what I would pay

havocnmayhem2005
08-05-2007, 06:33 PM
cmon, seriously, some people are saying they'd pay more for one of these than a Mustang GT or the nest Gen Camaro. Foci are awesom but damn, you can do a lot with a Mustang or Camaro for less $$$$

focusdarko
08-05-2007, 09:15 PM
i'd pay between $25,000 and $30,000. about the same i would for a EVO or STi. and yea they can do more with a mustang or camaro thanks to double the cylinders. but people who love the handling of a focus want the reliability of a factory turbo that they can easily upgrade to be as fast or faster than a mustang or camaro. Its all about personal preference. some people might not like V8's cus adding an exhaust is to loud for them or they hate the crappy handling. 4 cylinders are reliable, and focus's turn on a dime, add a turbo and you got a fierce little beast on your hands that can munch cars that think they're big boys.

austin
08-17-2007, 02:34 PM
the RS is to die for!

st mike
09-29-2007, 12:16 AM
nice

y2kc0wb0y
09-29-2007, 01:02 AM
The Cosworth certainly could compete with the EVO and STI market at 2500lbs and AWD, but is there room for another AWD tuner car in the US market? Really how much of the totally market share is controlled by the STI and the EVO buyers? Is the demand enough to pull attention towards Ford's Cosworth bid? The tuner market certainly could/would benefit especially since Cosworth is a recognized name but how long would buying demand hold up is the real question.

I'm not so sure the RS car has a price point in the US market. Definitely a cool car but so was/is the SVT and where is that now?

No AWD is the next step if Ford wants to stretch the Focus platform in the US market. Therefore, I would go as high as $30k for the car because, I like AWD performance (former Audi owner), hatchback practicality, easy to park and I lean towards US cars now.

hurtinfocus
10-02-2007, 05:14 PM
^ all this is true. but here is the problem.....Ford will not produce and sell a focus that is faster than the mustang. they will refuse to phase out the car they are known for and made popular by. this is the same reason that the SVT focus came out with a performance tuned zetec, rather than the 220hp countour svt v6 they originally thought about using......because with that motor it was faster than a base mustang v8. Those of us craving a turbo hatch made by ford will have to shell out the extra dough for the volvo c30, and hope/pray they come out with a c30r 274hp 26x torque AWD turbo inline 5 model.

thats what im praying for anyway. i love the way the c30 looks and if they come out with an AWD "R" model i will go to the dealership and ask where to sign

mdirenzo
10-13-2007, 11:23 AM
with the new STI switching to a hatchback format and being very similar in specs to something like the focus RS or cosworth (relatively speaking), we should get a good indication of how such a car would sell here. personally, i think the STI hatch will not sell as well as the sedan. you see the same thing with hondas. i suspect that's why ford doesn't bring the models here.

LouOrangeSVT
11-08-2007, 02:27 PM
i would not pay any more than 28k...

shepski
11-08-2007, 02:56 PM
cmon, seriously, some people are saying they'd pay more for one of these than a Mustang GT or the nest Gen Camaro. Foci are awesom but damn, you can do a lot with a Mustang or Camaro for less $$$$

There is NO Mustang or Camaro (or Corvette) that I would take over a Focus RS (Holy Old Thread, Batman!). It may not be RWD, but it'll still run circles around 'em. Looks better, too.

Jef531
11-08-2007, 03:11 PM
I think Ford should release the RS in North America just because Ford is an American company and it is stupid not to offer this awesome machine to us. I also think that Ford will need to make a turbo charged four cylinder to compete with the SRT-4 and the Evo 10. It would also be nice to buy a factory turbo charged focus. The biggest issue is that there is a very small market in the U.S. for a four cylinder over $20k - Most people are only willing to pay that much for a SUV or a truck. $30k sounds fair for the RS although it is still out of my price range (I can still keep drooling).

fearloathingwpb
12-16-2007, 09:26 PM
not only is it a sick performer but the RS and the Cosworth and the 2008 are the sexiest foci out there.

lancer_dancer01
12-26-2007, 10:28 PM
I would definately pay 25k for one of those, unique and stylish

kylesvt720
12-31-2007, 03:10 PM
I think the new RS could easily for for around $25K in the U.S., rumor is that the new one will be out 300HP. If they bring a better focus to the U.S., it [B]NEEDS to be AWD..........

CobraVertWV
01-16-2008, 10:01 PM
AWD is a must

besthaticouldo
01-31-2008, 12:46 PM
a lot...i would spend like 40k plus for a cosworth

starfuryt550
03-28-2008, 08:58 AM
id see myself dropping somewhere around 30k for an RS or cosworth for sure!

phil hay
04-27-2008, 03:26 PM
how about these 2 mine and my mates[hihi]

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w79/philhay_2007/S5001089.jpg

98LowRanger
05-17-2008, 01:29 PM
I think it should be priced in the price range of the VW GTi since it is similar (both performance hatchbacks). So in the $22-$25,000 range.

dyn2liv
06-03-2008, 05:13 AM
Exactly one testical, a kidney and possibly one finger ...

XcesiveSlyd
07-03-2008, 10:47 PM
I would think it would have to be in the price range of the STI and Evo. SO 28-38K would be fair I think.

lauzon
07-13-2008, 06:46 PM
they look good, but i still like the old zx3

quick77
07-14-2008, 09:22 AM
I'd pay anything if the new RS was AWD

starfuryt550
07-23-2008, 04:19 PM
I think it should be priced in the price range of the VW GTi since it is similar (both performance hatchbacks). So in the $22-$25,000 range.

The GTI is 22k starting, load some options and you'll see it closer to 30k.

These cars are comparable to the R32, which starts at 28k. The new ST or RS, or even a cosworth would be worth over $28k. Id expect them to be 30k+

LongDucDong
09-28-2008, 10:06 PM
Im waaaaay late to this party, but if Ford ever brought over a Cossie Focus, Id be first in line to buy.

tukaniSVT
12-05-2008, 09:49 AM
Man this is an old thread ... and never ran into it. I have always loved the RS models ... and the new one is coming ... so is there still a petition to bring that one in at least?

-RAY-

wilson20
12-16-2008, 01:43 AM
HELL YEA!!!!!!!! Bring it on but let me get my credit fixed first. ]]][hatchet][[[ its ugly.

kgardnez
01-05-2009, 06:51 AM
I'd love one, but it need to be reasonably priced... say a $5K adder to the focus.

pairofshues
02-09-2009, 04:49 PM
looks nice would buy one for under 25K

HIGDON
02-15-2009, 05:31 PM
Saw an RS crusing the streets yesterday...I want to bring one home so bad....nearly impossible to find one for sale:(

roosterst
03-08-2009, 07:39 AM
<---------would love an RS!

SeEsAw12
03-22-2009, 01:42 PM
so 2010 might be the year for the RS to hit the US! What does everyone think!?!?!

Ford is promising it... hopefully they deliver...

SeEsAw12
03-22-2009, 01:42 PM
so 2010 might be the year for the RS to hit the US! What does everyone think!?!?!

Ford is promising it... hopefully they deliver...

shepski
04-14-2009, 06:48 PM
C&D is saying I'd have to pay $28K (see link).

That's a no-brainer.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/hot_lists/high_performance/sport_compacts/2009_ford_focus_rs_first_drive_review

Yeah, I know this thread was started for the ORIGINAL RS (like my avatar), but what the hell, the thread keeps living.

NS0229
04-15-2009, 08:52 AM
wont buy unless they come out with awd version...300 to the front wheels? come on ford we know ur not that retarded

shepski
04-15-2009, 01:36 PM
^^ There's at least one online video road-test (a very good one done in and around Monte Carlo), that indeed says while Ford has NOT eliminated torque steer with its Revo-knuckle, it's not bad at all...

Peregrine
04-22-2009, 01:27 PM
wont buy unless they come out with awd version...300 to the front wheels? come on ford we know ur not that retarded

So now's the time for Ford to step up and prove everyone wrong that the RS is amazing and doesn't need AWD.

Just getting them to bring it here seems like asking alot but asking for AWD at this current state ain't nothing but a pipe dream.

FocusinGER
04-22-2009, 03:58 PM
I wouldn't imagine that the RS will come to the states under 30K. We currently have the EVO and STI here and both are well over the 30K mark reasonably equipped. It is true that they both are AWD cars but with the new front wheel drive technology in the RS it is a very compelling against the other two in a road test for sure. I think it's realistic to expect the RS to retail at around the 33 to 35K price point well equipped and I would be in line to get it.

Lakes
04-22-2009, 07:57 PM
i was reading in a magazine last nite at meijer and it said they probably wont be coming here and the price would be about $45,000 :-(

Peregrine
04-23-2009, 08:15 AM
Well, it's just all speculation at this point but we can only dream eh?

cdsilver02
04-23-2009, 09:10 AM
wow, those results don't look good.

NS0229
04-23-2009, 02:45 PM
So now's the time for Ford to step up and prove everyone wrong that the RS is amazing and doesn't need AWD.

Just getting them to bring it here seems like asking alot but asking for AWD at this current state ain't nothing but a pipe dream.

yeah it does seem like it would be too much. i know ford has made some changes to make the fwd more manageable like mazda has done with the ms3, but itll still not be the same..i just always felt the foci should be rally inspired like the evo and sti's, it just seems like those are the main cars in competition

TrueBlue02
04-25-2009, 05:16 PM
The American auto industry would be in good shape by 2011 if Ford and Chevy had the same European specs on their cars in America. Our politicians won't allow that.

The only thing that the U.S. has on Europe is crash safety standards that the govt. inforces.

Average European cars in general are more stylish, generally have good economy, and can perform half way decent. Europe gets the RS, Type Rs, etc.

It is stupid.

I love my SVT, but an RS (2002, not new one) would have been cooler, but it was never offered here.

The new RS is very cool. I like the green one.

scsvtfocus
04-25-2009, 07:08 PM
Hmmm.

NS0229
04-26-2009, 10:03 PM
The new RS is very cool. I like the green one.

i wanna see it in matte black..omg it would be so fierce

sehnbadt
04-27-2009, 09:27 AM
I emailed Ford Canada and asked if they plan to introduce the European Focus ST into the North American market, this is the answer I got from them:

We sincerely thank you for taking the time to write to us with your suggestion that we should introduce the European Focus ST into the North American market. Ford of Canada appreciates hearing from our customers, especially when customers provide us with valuable ideas, insight and feedback on our products. At this time, Ford does not have any intentions of introducing the Focus ST into the North American market. Please keep in mind that the introduction of new models may put several aspects into consideration such as: market trends, customer demands, engineering advances, and dealership input. We have forwarded your suggestions to our Engineering and Design Team for future consideration.

WeeAsp
05-01-2009, 11:25 PM
I recently found a Cosworth ESCORT for sale for just under $30K.

The car is in LA, CA.

scotland
06-06-2009, 04:26 AM
Hi there !
I live in the north of scotland and work in a Ford dealership.We have just taken delivery of our new Focus RS demonstraor. WOW !!!! what a car.I had previously owned a Focus ST tuned to 260 bhp but this new care just blows it away.Torque steer is practically non existant, the handling is even better than the STi's and EVO's that I have had in the past.
Ford is an American company and yet you guys are missing out on their best product!!!

By the way price of our car is £27,190 inc options not got a converter to hand but how does that price compare to what you would expect to pay? Having read a lot of the comments on this thread maybe this is the problem that the American public are not willing to pay for a premiun product so Ford then "downgrade" their best car which to me is the Focus.
Having worked in the motor trade for the last 15 years I would say that the Focus is the best handling car on the road by miles and also has the best selection of engines.
My uncle lives in Canada(I presume they get the same kind of Focus as you ) and when he had a drive in my ST could not believe the difference in quality of the car.

Good thread though would really like to hear what comments you guys make.

By the way the RS only does about 18mpg when you have spirited driving even less when giving it a good thrash.

phaley
07-13-2009, 03:28 PM
I would love to have an RS. Many of us in the USA would love a car like the RS. But Ford gives us something less, much less.[thumbd] To add insult to injury I recently read that a Ford VP recently imported, somehow, a European Focus RS. He uses it for his daily driver! [:0] If he can get one; why not the rest of US. I would trade in my cherry SVT focus for one[thumb].

jdcochran
07-23-2009, 08:53 AM
I would absolutely buy either one. I would say low to mid 20s would be a fair price especially to compete with the Speed3 and if they make them AWD than they would be EVO and STI killers hands down. It would be a smart move for ford to get them back in the spotlight but I doubt it will happen because for some strange reason they assume noone would pay that much eventhough my dealership sells Speed3s every day.

Gibsta
08-11-2009, 06:39 PM
I paid £26k for my RS, thats about $45k.....and it is worth every penny. It is by far the best car I have ever driven, in a straight it blows away my mates STi and his Evo7. It brakes and handles much better and yet it's front wheel drive. Dunno how Ford have done it, but if you get the chance drive one! The guy that developed it Jost Capito has just been made world head of fords performance cars, so there's a good chance he will take it to the States.

fbmx24
08-13-2009, 04:58 PM
I would say around $25-30k would be a perfect price for the RS if they ever brought it here.

Phacade
09-07-2009, 08:26 AM
I would be all over a Focus RS if they came stateside...just as soon as I pay off the wife's '08 SES!

yakdish
09-14-2009, 03:23 PM
I could list 10-15 cars that I would rather spend that much money on

davidjsouth
10-11-2009, 07:28 PM
I'd wait for the Fiesta! But they have to make it comprabable in price to get bought here in the US.

yamaha940
02-15-2010, 11:00 PM
ehh.. i wouldnt pay more than 30k for an rs seeing that you can get the awd sti for only 5k more.. but then again.. the rs dose have an extra piston.. :D

02_svt_guy
06-07-2010, 10:56 AM
There is no way the 2010 RS will be under 30K. And on that note there is no way its coming states side. I would expect a eco-boost Focus in the next 2 years that will make around/over 200hp.

YellowJellyBean
06-09-2010, 12:03 AM
45k is way too much, sorry. Yes, it's ridiculously fast. Yes, it's pretty sweet looking. However, I think it makes more sense for Ford to bring the ST or the Fiesta ST to the American market. Right now the market here is dominated by the Civic Si, with the Cobalt SS grabbing a few sales and the Sentra SE-R getting a couple.

The hot hatch market here just isn't what it is over in Europe, which is really a shame. For some reason, Americans don't like hatches, and they certainly don't want to spend more than 35k for one. The GTI is the only real hot hatch here, and the new STI, and rarely you will see an R32.

Long story short, America might be ready for the Fiesta ST, if Americans will buy something that says Fiesta on it. Focus ST might even get some buyers. The market for the RS just isn't here. The majority of us drive a Focus because it's what we can afford. As much as we want an RS, Ford has to base their decision on the people who have the money to buy one.

blkSVTfocus
09-10-2010, 11:05 AM
I'm down for whatever the bank will loan me. I think the new RS is worth every penny of 40,000. For the mix of technology, power, and comfort it's a great little car. Although the popularity of hatches here in the state's is not as strong as Europe, I think it would be a great addition to the Ford Performance line.

Most people cannot afford an Evo or STI brand new, but that hasn't stopped US production.. People are still buying the over-priced GT500's...

There is a market, but it's not going to be huge, like our DD's. I mean the sticker price for my SVT was 21,xxx. Who's to say a focus that is basically 100 times better isn't worth double the price?

jwkegg
10-31-2010, 01:51 PM
wed all buy one at 19-24 but itll probably be priced around a mazdaspeed3

cdsilver02
11-08-2010, 09:35 PM
For a true RS very similar to the most recent RS I am sure we would pay closer to the low 30's.

OgRedd
03-07-2011, 06:44 AM
If Ford decided to sell the RS/Cosworth here, I promise you, it would be my next vehicle purchase. - Og

SUELZER
09-10-2011, 09:22 PM
If Ford decided to sell the RS/Cosworth here, I promise you, it would be my next vehicle purchase. - Og

ditto, those are all the mods i'd want to do all bundled into one [thumb]

shofan76
12-30-2011, 04:31 PM
Yes I would buy one. $31,000-$35,000

Schrumie
01-25-2012, 01:15 AM
id love for the rs to come to america, id buy it in a heart beat.

cdsilver02
03-10-2012, 10:44 PM
Yes I would buy one. $31,000-$35,000

+1... I might go to 36k. Depending on the projected power.

focalxplosion
04-07-2012, 10:39 AM
I would love to see an RS that could hang with an STi. That would move me to spend 35k or more.

1turbofocus
05-26-2012, 10:01 PM
You guys willing to pay 30 - 35,000 + for a new RS do know you could take a 2007 - 2010 Focus Duratec and install

New Paint
New custom Interior
Full built engine to hold 500HP +
Turbo Kit
Built trand with LSD
Clutch
Wheels / Tires
Full street / race suspension
all gauges , tuning , flasher parts pieces and have a far better car then the new coming RS but how you want it and money left over a car that would run with the GT500 and circles around the STI and anything else in its class and 2-3 classes above it

I would put my stock original engine turbocharged SVT up against the ST or the RS if it ever comes out 326TQ 331HP at the wheels

Tom

focalxplosion
05-27-2012, 10:40 AM
You guys willing to pay 30 - 35,000 + for a new RS do know you could take a 2007 - 2010 Focus Duratec and install


While I admire your skill and resourcefulness; YOU do know that these two things are not the same.

This line of argumentation is constantly trotted out, and it's really just not persuasive for everyone. This is the same debate that WRX owners make all the time against buying an STi. Why would you do that when you could just chip your WRX and already be faster the STi.

For some of us there is incredible pleasure in wrenching on our own cars and cranking it to 11. For others there is no substitute for OEM quality engineering. I've been in both camps and can comfortably say I'm currently in the later. There will probably come a day when my boys are older and I want to spend time working on cars again, but right now that's not the priority. I have the means and I'm happy to pay for OEM performance right now.

ResJudicata
05-28-2012, 08:24 AM
You guys willing to pay 30 - 35,000 + for a new RS do know you could take a 2007 - 2010 Focus Duratec and install

New Paint
New custom Interior
Full built engine to hold 500HP +
Turbo Kit
Built trand with LSD
Clutch
Wheels / Tires
Full street / race suspension
all gauges , tuning , flasher parts pieces and have a far better car then the new coming RS but how you want it and money left over a car that would run with the GT500 and circles around the STI and anything else in its class and 2-3 classes above it

I would put my stock original engine turbocharged SVT up against the ST or the RS if it ever comes out 326TQ 331HP at the wheels

Tom

Tom, I know you are much more knowledgeable about Focus' than I. But, isn't the point of the RS that it is all-wheel drive, and maybe a bit more power? I understand the argument for doing a turbo kit vs buying an ST as it's apples to apples (sorta). But, are there any other all-wheel drive Focus' that can be modified to have the same or better power and performance as the RS?

Chris

RonMaiden
05-28-2012, 09:21 AM
A Focus RS would come with a warranty and financing and better modern styling than hopping up an older gen and you can't finance upgrades. And who has $30k to throw into a car unless you are the few that make cazy moeny but I think most of us here can't throw $30 large into a vehicle at once.

VTwin60
05-28-2012, 09:59 PM
I'd pay around $30k for one, any more than that and I would just get another Mustang.

thielt1
05-30-2012, 04:27 PM
2007 - 2010 Focus Duratec


Tom

Don't forget that it will also look better than any 2007-2010 duratec.

Greg Alden
05-30-2012, 08:21 PM
i'd have to go with Tom on this one. the only two reasons for new are styling and warranty. and to be real styling is the only real reason. warranties ware out pretty fast unless you buy a kia or hundai. now think of all those people that can't part with thier focus no matter how old it is and can think of nothing better than rubbing it down and keep it like it's new.
[offtopic]maybe i'm off topic but lets say the world ends and your highly tuned motor goes off the deep end. even a big name performance motor shop wont charge much more than let's say 10Gs. and most everything else is cheap to replace or upgrade. 10Gs is a farcry from 30Gs no matter what the economy is. you the man Tom.[pray]

LiciouzSVT
07-12-2012, 12:21 PM
I would pay a bagillion dollhairs for an RS![giddy]

2004svtfordfocus
11-25-2012, 08:24 PM
svt euro package is much cleaner and nicer looking than the US version sorry USA but they need to bring them here PLEASE

jinstall
01-09-2013, 08:40 AM
Tom, I know you are much more knowledgeable about Focus' than I. But, isn't the point of the RS that it is all-wheel drive, and maybe a bit more power? I understand the argument for doing a turbo kit vs buying an ST as it's apples to apples (sorta). But, are there any other all-wheel drive Focus' that can be modified to have the same or better power and performance as the RS?

Chris

No Focus RS is AWD, it's too expensive.

tukaniSVT
01-10-2013, 06:57 PM
Non-of the focuses are All-wheel drive. The only smaller cylinder all-wheel drive car that I can think of that came out from Ford was the Old Cosworth Escort.

Ray

jinstall
01-11-2013, 06:31 PM
Sierra, mondeo

macdiesel
02-19-2013, 08:22 PM
This November 25 this thread will be ten years old.

svtguy88
02-25-2013, 09:06 AM
...and still no RS in the States.

cdsilver02
03-02-2013, 06:48 PM
But there might be hope. Probably read this by now, but nevertheless...

Check this out !!! (http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-ford-focus-rs-expected-2015)

iridetheshortbus
03-25-2013, 06:54 PM
i will give a nut for a RS

cdsilver02
04-02-2013, 07:15 PM
^^^Like^^^

Shoot I have all the kids I will EVER need so I would give both nuts. Seriously. My wife and I were looking at a new car for her and she said "How are we going to do this if you are getting the 2015 RS?" I looked at her in shock and amazement. So, she has already planned for it. SCOOOOOORE!!!! We will see if we (US) get the RS.

svtguy88
04-03-2013, 09:38 AM
But there might be hope. Probably read this by now, but nevertheless...

Check this out !!! (http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/new-ford-focus-rs-expected-2015)

I haven't looked into the RS in a while. That article made me do some googling, and I came up with this (http://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/next-ford-focus-rs-will-deliver-350-horsepower-ar137543.html). $40k is a lot for a Focus -- and 350 hp through the front wheels? Still...I hope it happens. I'd love to drive one.

jinstall
04-22-2013, 03:56 PM
Keep putting the pieces together ;)