: Nitrous...bad rap???


viney266
01-03-2005, 01:23 AM
Just a simple question.. Not trying to ruffle any feathers here, just lookin' for some answers.

Why is it that some people consider nitrous "cheating".. Alot of folks seem to dislike nitrous like it isn't true horsepower, or its too easy, or ...well I don't know... I have owned turbocharged, blown, and nitrous vehicles and they all have pluses and minuses... So what is with the nitrous hate... Trust me.. you are not going to make me feel bad because I run it, I'm just curious why folks seeem to not like it.

MISVTfocus
01-03-2005, 03:11 AM
well I cant talk because I dont own a nitrous kit, but for the ppl who love N/A cars I can see where they are coming from its just not natural to inject a substance into your engine to make it perform better. Its kind of like using coke before running a track race so you can be better than everyone. But I'm not going to knock on nitrous but I would never buy it...

hogy72
01-03-2005, 04:42 AM
I think its just because its only there with the button, where as the Sc is there all the time, fun to play with in everyday driving, etc. I dont dislike nitrous, but running 15.5 NA and runnin 14.1 with nitrous, it just doesnt seem right to call your car a "low 14 second car" because you hit a switch. Just my input, dont hate :)

Fordesigner
01-03-2005, 05:46 AM
Right, because it's not power where people live. No different than the people pushing race gas hp and times. Sorry, but no one drives around with race gas in their cars... $5+ a gallon race gas??? They only have the times and power while at a track. I don't know anyone who drives around everyday with their bottle always open and always filled...

So many people feel like they're like steriods for the engine. Easy hp.

viney266
01-03-2005, 04:48 PM
Don't take this the wrong way, but nitrous does the EXACT same thing as a SC or a turbo it just does it chemically.. I find that most folks who dislike nitrous have never used it or had any experience with it.. I think it is just a general bad taste for most people.. The analogy to coke kinda made sense to me. I disagree with it, but I like the ananlogy, it helps me understand where folks are coming from... This also seems to be a thing of youth.. Anyone think it is just a bad tatse from our favorite movie THE F&F..

.....BTW my bottle is full and in my car right now, and I have a remote bottle opener on it.. I can be armed and ready to smoke you BEFORE the light changes!!

focus mike
01-03-2005, 05:22 PM
huh oh uncle vinny got some threats going on to the ricers of america [:)]

how are those remote openers? do they work nicely, how long does it take to open the bottle? im not getting nitrous either but i like to know stuff.

crazymechanic
01-03-2005, 06:06 PM
the biggest fear people have when it comes to nitrous is blowing their motor, and/or themselves up. that can be remedied by TUNING. just like SC/turbo, it won't work right without proper TUNING! they get a little too aggressive on the spark timing usually. have you ever been in a pinging car? now think of how it'll feel with each cylinder pumping out twice as much power and starts pinging.

blowing up your motor is quite possible, if you don't have proper TUNING. but all those nitrous explosions you hear about...well, most of them are just stories. nitrous oxide is a NON-FLAMMABLE vapor. only at high temperatures, such as the temperatures caused by the compression in a cylinder, will the nitrogen split from the oxygen so that the oxygen can be burned. a cold bottle of nitrous has no chance of exploding.

also...please remember, nitrous is N2O, not NO2. NO2 is a harmful emmission that is caused by incomplete combustion and goes out your tailpipe.

dudley123
01-03-2005, 06:31 PM
I was wondering the same thing? How long does the Remote bottle opener take? I mean cuz I would much rather invest a grand or 1500 on a REALLY nice Nitrous setup instead of the JRSC cuz it would be MUCH easier to install. Lemme know. Thanks

viney266
01-03-2005, 06:52 PM
Originally posted by focus mike
huh oh uncle vinny got some threats going on to the ricers of america [:)]

how are those remote openers? do they work nicely, how long does it take to open the bottle? im not getting nitrous either but i like to know stuff.

LOL.. They work fine, they open in about 2 seconds.. The only prob with them is that they cost 200 bucks plus

The other expensive toy you need is a bottle heater if you live in cool climates at all...yep another 200 bucks or so.. , but well worth it with the results.

oneill8769
01-03-2005, 07:08 PM
i don't see what's wrong with using an upgrade to make your car run better (shrugs shoulders). i'm not against at all, hell, i think it's a great idea.

crazymechanic
01-03-2005, 07:09 PM
even in warmer climates you should still have a bottle heater. maintaining bottle pressure is essential to maintain line pressure and get proper nitrous/fuel metering. if after a few runs, your bottle pressure drops, as it should, less and less nitrous will make it into the engine, but there's nothing to cut back the fuel metering, so it injects a rich mixture, which, with the elevated cylinder temperatures spells BANG! use the bottle heater to maintain proper bottle pressure for proper nitrous/fuel metering. spend $200 to save $2000 for a motor rebuild...sounds like a deal to me

shadyninja
01-03-2005, 07:11 PM
[thumb] nitrous is your friend

dudley123
01-03-2005, 07:19 PM
Hey Shady, i voted for you on the ROTM but i was wondering what size shot you run, how often u squeeze and how many miles or whatever you have. Cuz i wanna run nitrous but i am just scared.

sidney61199
01-03-2005, 07:28 PM
I have no idea so I am asking. They say that nitrous tears up your motor, with this being said is it possible to get around 100K out of a juiced motor or are we talking 50K to 75K? Thanks for any info.

crazymechanic
01-03-2005, 07:41 PM
nitrous can tear up your motor if used irresponsibly. it makes your motor run at a higher level than it was designed to, so it accelerates the wear and tear on the engine. I would estimate that responsible usage would lead to at least 75k out of the motor. it also depends on how you drive regularly, and how well you maintain your vehicle.

viney266
01-04-2005, 10:10 AM
I does put wear on a motor, but if the maintenance is done and the shot isn't huge the motor will survive... My buddy has a miata with a 50 shot and 173,000 miles on it, and he uses the nitrous pretty regularly...the car has needed a clutch, nothing else in the last 35,000 miles