Turbo t3/t4 - ebay @ 110
Intercooler DSM sidemount - Ebay @ 20
Piping - Local exhaust shop @ 50$
4 Injectors #42, 440cc - friend @ 40
Diablo sport chip- Focusfanatics.com member "Petik" @ 100
Turbo header w/ t3 flange - ebay @ 100$
K&N Cone filter - @ FREE
Oil lines, brackets, clamps, fittings ~ local autoparts stores @30$
MAF- friend @ 100$
Wastegate- In need of!
Manual brass boost controler- friend @ free
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= 520$ current balance

Yes, fellow forum members it can be done! Pictures will be up once everything is in the car! I am still in need of a decent wastegate. There are still many things to be worked out and luckily I have Tom on the board as well as you all to answer questions in case I run into problems! Im hoping for the best out of this! Wish me luck!
[8D] [thumb]

hey i really hope it works out for you and good luck with it hope its a honda killer..

That sounds like a really awesome deal. Keep us posted on progress and what-not.

Cheers!

This ought to be good [paranoid]

cant wait to see those dynos #s

Make sure you check that t3/4 ebay turbo to see if she is okay, that is pretty cheap!! Also, that chip may not work for you check into it, good luck!!Keep us up to date

*SETBACK* :(

the t3/t4 had shaftplay (expected it to, but not this much) and was traded to a friend for a NEW T3 (yay?).

I am in need of a exhaust manifold with a t3 flange was well as a external wastegate flange that will meet the clearance issuses, I also need a wastegate to go with it.

Tom- I tried going to focus-power.com and its like it doesnt exist. I need that manifold FAST and I believe you sell it! I need a link to a working website to buy it!

This is just the BEGINNING of your setbacks.....You just blew that $500 budget on a manifold ALONE. I don't mean to be discouraging but take it from my experience and MANY MANY others that a focus CANNOT be turbocharged reliably and safely for $500 Like Tom said, it's hard to do it for $2500 muchless 500... But I wish you the best and keep us posted.


Scott

If I cant find the manifold I need, this turbo I have will probably go up for sale on ebay to get money for a new t3/t4 with a internal wastegate and Ill be done with this turbo rampage.

Technically I had a turbo set up for 500, and now im adding onto it (everything was bolted on) ..... I just never turned on the car when the old turbo was on there [paranoid]


Im so pissed that this turbo wont work with the manifold I could throw it at the focus [8] [?|]

You know what i did i cut the top portion out of the cat so i could use the egr and the 02 sensors you should try that so you can esily remove the turbo for emmisions testing you can get the flanges on ebay for cheap. Then i just had some tubing bent so i could do a straight pipe to the flex.

Let me know what happens im still in the process of building myn but i have the intake part taken care of so far and working on the exhaust i think the computer is going to be the most expensive.

Chance are im going to sell this turbo or trade it for a new hybrid. The external wastegate to a little to much mainly because I need a custom manifold.

Im in the process of buying a manifold with a external wastegate @ 200$ so this means once I sell the old log style Ill be back in the 500$ goal.

Good luck with this man.
here's my list.

Custom log style manifold - made by me.
down pipe - made by me
intercooler bends - bent by me
delta gate wastegate - baught at auction new for 200$ canadian
Greddy Type S BOV - Baught at auction for 270$ canadian
T3-t03 Airsearch .48/.60 Turbo - baught rebuilt new from a freind in quebec for 500$ canadian
spearco intercooler 26 inche core, 2.5 thick - baught at auction for 400$ canadian
70mm maf with 42-55lbs injectors - yet to be baught probally 4-500$ canadian
Custom mail order chip from tom - yet to be ordered, an i forget the price.
all stinaless oil lines an fittings - 90$ canadian

an when it all done,

honda hunting - Priceless

I 'm doing this too (~$500 turbo kit). I'm doin' it a little different though ....Got it mounted and spooling going to the muffler shop this week ( down pipe :-) ). I will post pics and price list soon... P.S. mine is a T-3 setup using the GET THIS .....STOCK MANIFOLD MODIFIED ...to mount the T-3. I am going for mild boost and using a RELIABLE internally gated SAAB Turbo (oil and water cooled), an Audi/VW intercooler with a volumetrically matched electric cooling fan (for reducing idle related heat soak) , 42lb injectors and a matched 70mm Pro Mass unit.... Its a slick simple low cost setup that if it works correctly will push the envelope for DIY turbo setups for The ZX3 FOCUS!!! No disrespect TOM LOVE YOUR (S_ IT) Just want to learn for myself next time you get my money ....This is hard work!!!! LOL and Imma need some tuning too please HALLA @ the BLU-BALLA!!!

Why do you guys keep trying this it cannot be done

Tom

well, i think ill keep posted to this thread. interesting.....

if i knew what the hell i was doing, i'd so go down this road as well....

Plus you got to get all of the gauges to monitor your turbo. Mine is almost done.
This is my kit so far:
Injectors - 100
Custom Piping - 300
MAF - 180
Intercooler - 100
BOV - 100
Pro Racer Tuning w/ XCAL 2 - 640
Tuner Fees - 200
Waste Gate - 100
Turbo - DSM TE04H - 150
Oil Lines and Fittings - 40
Clutch - 400
Clutch Install - 100
Manual Boost Controller - 20
Boost Gauge - 94
Exhaust Temp. Gauge - 100
AEM UEGO Wideband A/F Gauge - 250
Exhaust Manifold and Downpipe - 300

Total $3174

Originally posted by zx3focusguy
This is just the BEGINNING of your setbacks.....You just blew that $500 budget on a manifold ALONE. I don't mean to be discouraging but take it from my experience and MANY MANY others that a focus CANNOT be turbocharged reliably and safely for $500 Like Tom said, it's hard to do it for $2500 muchless 500... But I wish you the best and keep us posted. Scott Tell that to ForceFedFocus!

I met him at the track and watched him run mid 14's at a low boost level. He showed me his setup and it was impressive to see what he has done for well under $1000! Talking with him said he's had some problems and in fact said he is still working out some issues. But you can tell he's learned a lot during the process. And that's experience he will always have and which can be applied to his next project!

Granted, a kit from Tom is going to be a sure thing without much messin. It's what I would have to do 'cause it would push my skill level and patience just to get a complete kit installed.

But if a guy has the time, some skill and a good place to do the work then I say GO FOR IT!. So what if he ends up spending $1,000 - $1,200 in the end. That's still half price or better.

OH yeah here's the first pic to let you know I'm serious!!!!

P.S (I love "It can't be done!") Fuel the fire!!!!!!!!![}:)]

http://focusfanatics.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=951212

Wow, this is really old. I have come a long way since then. In my conquest to turbocharged victory ive spent about 15k in the focus since I first posted this.

You can do everything inexpensive, but I cant stress enough how important good tuning is.
Focus IS life

Good luck to all of you!

^^^ -- Sorry do you mean you've spent $1,500 recently, or $15,000???

i was gonna go the cheap diy route but decided not to built a full motor and getting ready to install soon. i ahve over 9000 invested so far

Originally posted by EricR
^^^ -- Sorry do you mean you've spent $1,500 recently, or $15,000???

that would be 15,000. Why would I do such a thing? To see the looks on peoples faces when I destroy their 30,000+ car. Its worth it everyday.

Originally posted by 1turbofocus
Why do you guys keep trying this it cannot be done

Tom

Agreed. You cant even tune a focus with a turbo for under 1000. I started with a 1000 turbo kit and I have around 8k invested right now.

What happens when with your awesome 200 WHP you blow up your stock diff and you need a new transmission for 500 and a LSD for 600?

Well Thats when you buy another short block and try again.. $9000, $15000 plus the price of the car......I'd take that money .....and by me a 3rd gen used RX7 Twin turbo or something....Mazdas in bed with Ford right ???? and spend a couple more to have a this is what its built for vette killer..... Low boost though??? I believe it can be done for way less than 5K reliably ..... [thumb]

Of course it can be done for less than $5000 reliably. I am glad someone isn't afraid to try it. I've turboded several other car for way less than the kits for sale.

Originally posted by JarJarBlinks
Agreed. You cant even tune a focus with a turbo for under 1000. I started with a 1000 turbo kit and I have around 8k invested right now.

What happens when with your awesome 200 WHP you blow up your stock diff and you need a new transmission for 500 and a LSD for 600?


If you have 8k invested so far I hope you are in the 11's or you have just been wasting money.

Originally posted by chrselmore
If you have 8k invested so far I hope you are in the 11's or you have just been wasting money.


Amen Brother.....LOL THAT's GOTTA BE ONE MEAN MOTOR SCOOTER!!!!! LOL Got any race day vid clips of this BAD MF at the track JarJarBlinks ????? DYNO Sheets to drool over ???? Pictures of the Engine Compartment posted???? Anything?

I really don't understand why it's so hard to think it can't be done cheaper.

Originally posted by chrselmore
If you have 8k invested so far I hope you are in the 11's or you have just been wasting money.

Shortblock 500 (blew up stock one)
Tranny 500 (blew up stock diff put a nice hole in the case)
Quaife 800
Toms Full kit 5200
gauges 200
tuning 400 (upgrade from stage 1)
eagle rods 300
JE 8.2:1 400
BOV 100
Wastegate 200
intake manifold 100
installation 1000
tires 500
new PCM 400
3 vf mounts 300
headgasket 50
misc parts 300 (FordSVTParts, IE leaking coolant lines or exhaust bolts)
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total $11250


You guys can argue anything on the list but I can back it all up. If you want to say somthing stupid about money I didnt include thigns like 500 in hotels in NC and 300 on gas going to Toms and back. All for 260/260 to the ground, but I can absolutley garantee that my car will run ALOT longer and reliable than any $500 kit or even a $2000 kit.
Argue what you guys want but how many of you actually went through with this? Is YOUR car reliable if you did?

I got a twinturbo crownvic, and 2 turbo escorts that tell me everyday that it can be done cheaper. Not to mention the mustang I sold. Granted the Vic is a flow thru Carb set up (less electronics) but still done for cheap and still runnin' strong 2 1/2 years later. Maybe my hook ups are better than yours but some of those prices seem a little high for what I can pay down here in Georgia.

Originally posted by chrselmore
I got a twinturbo crownvic, and 2 turbo escorts that tell me everyday that it can be done cheaper. Not to mention the mustang I sold. Granted the Vic is a flow thru Carb set up (less electronics) but still done for cheap and still runnin' strong 2 1/2 years later. Maybe my hook ups are better than yours but some of those prices seem a little high for what I can pay down here in Georgia.

Oh yea you can turbo other cars cheap no doubt about that. My life dream is to get a c5 z06 and slap a couple hairdryers on it [cool]

Cars are different tho. You can tune a carb ALOT easier(read cheaper) than an EFI. The crown vic wouldnt grenade its diff with 200 whp. I love crown vics, one of my friends had a PP with 3 bullet holes and studded tires on the back [}:)]

Originally posted by JarJarBlinks
Shortblock 500 (blew up stock one)
Tranny 500 (blew up stock diff put a nice hole in the case)
Quaife 800
Toms Full kit 5200
gauges 200
tuning 400 (upgrade from stage 1)
eagle rods 300
JE 8.2:1 400
BOV 100
Wastegate 200
intake manifold 100
installation 1000
tires 500
new PCM 400
3 vf mounts 300
headgasket 50
misc parts 300 (FordSVTParts, IE leaking coolant lines or exhaust bolts)
--------------------------
total $11250


You guys can argue anything on the list but I can back it all up. If you want to say somthing stupid about money I didnt include thigns like 500 in hotels in NC and 300 on gas going to Toms and back. All for 260/260 to the ground, but I can absolutley garantee that my car will run ALOT longer and reliable than any $500 kit or even a $2000 kit.
Argue what you guys want but how many of you actually went through with this? Is YOUR car reliable if you did?


Dang I got some Ocean Front property in Utah I'm willing to sell you ....Cheap !!!! LOL LOL You buy Good buddy....LOL

Originally posted by bluballer
Dang I got some Ocean Front property in Utah I'm willing to sell you ....Cheap !!!! LOL LOL You buy Good buddy....LOL

Haha can you run even 17's? Put ur money where ur mouth is buddy.

I think FocusMang is just speaking of ~$500 for the parts.
Tuning alone is way too much for any EFI. Cheapest I could find in my area is about $250 no boost, $375 boosted with a SCT or Diablo.

It can still be done for cheap as long as it done by the owner of the car, the moment you start paying for someone else to do it.... you gotta dig deep. But for people who have access to the right tools, its a smart way to go and learn.

Let the negativity fuel the fire... keep us posted. I wanna see where you get.

Originally posted by cpyder
I think FocusMang is just speaking of ~$500 for the parts.
Tuning alone is way too much for any EFI. Cheapest I could find in my area is about $250 no boost, $375 boosted with a SCT or Diablo.

It can still be done for cheap as long as it done by the owner of the car, the moment you start paying for someone else to do it.... you gotta dig deep. But for people who have access to the right tools, its a smart way to go and learn.

Let the negativity fuel the fire... keep us posted. I wanna see where you get.

Yes you can tune it yourself. You could get the PRP for under 1k I believe. But I havent heard of many SHOPS tuning for blow-through MAF on a focus. Tom is the only one that only uses a blow setup. Could you tune a blow-through setup yourself? It tooks us hours just to get my car to idle, I would have never been able to do it alone. Would you all have access to a MAF output adjuster so you could even get your car to start in the first place without having maps already written for you?

And for those who say draw through is just as good I laugh at you. Its a world of difference.

Ummm.... yeah, I am in Miami.... there are a crap load of places that do complete tuning. Including the MAF. I did neglect to ask if it was included in the price of tuing. 2 of the places I went to mainly did mustangs and F150s. And I remember see on here somwhere that the Mustang MAF could be used on Foci. So, like I said... it is very possible to get all the parts needed and setup on the engine for around $500.

But tuning in going to bump the price up a bit more. I am sure that a basic tune for the mods that have been put on the car and what the boost is set to will work, but custom tuing will make the total cost of a turbo more around $1200.

I have been in agreement with you, just not that it should cost so damn much. Spending more than 5K on a basic friekin turbo setup is rediculous. Maybe if it were a one of a kind thing, but damn.. someone said they spent over 15K, I hope you can keep up with the Focus RS8 for that price.

I would say $2500 tops and it would be reliable, fast, and complete.

Originally posted by cpyder
Ummm.... yeah, I am in Miami.... there are a crap load of places that do complete tuning. Including the MAF. I did neglect to ask if it was included in the price of tuing. 2 of the places I went to mainly did mustangs and F150s. And I remember see on here somwhere that the Mustang MAF could be used on Foci. So, like I said... it is very possible to get all the parts needed and setup on the engine for around $500.

But tuning in going to bump the price up a bit more. I am sure that a basic tune for the mods that have been put on the car and what the boost is set to will work, but custom tuing will make the total cost of a turbo more around $1200.

I have been in agreement with you, just not that it should cost so damn much. Spending more than 5K on a basic friekin turbo setup is rediculous. Maybe if it were a one of a kind thing, but damn.. someone said they spent over 15K, I hope you can keep up with the Fous RS8 for that price.

Haha after my retune I want to run only 16 or 17 PSI to increase logetivity, at 15 PSI the shortblock did 275/275. Bring your Fous RS8 and I might not beat it but ill give it a good run. And bring your car too for laughs [:)]

I put tennis balls on my Huffy for cheap, and nothing ever blew up.

Originally posted by eazyrider_tim
I put tennis balls on my Huffy for cheap, and nothing ever blew up.

is your huffy faster than a C5 vette?

no.

It is, too! When you throw it out of a plane !!!

Originally posted by viney266
It is, too! When you throw it out of a plane !!!

Well when you throw my ZX3 out of a plane its as fast as a Bugatti.

Maybe we should let you guys fight eachother, like a UFC battle! It's pretty funny to see when guys start talking about cars. It's usually seconds before the trash talk starts.

Anyways, I'm sure a kit could be made for less, but then the quality of the kit will be up to you. You better be able to learn fast and be able to pay for the rest of the kit with your own labor.

lol it doesn't matter what you throw out of a plane, it still has an acceleration of -9.8m/s^2. Mass is independent :-P The only thing that might affect it is drag, but not too largely.

Sounds awesome man nice finds.

Originally posted by xp0s3d
lol it doesn't matter what you throw out of a plane, it still has an acceleration of -9.8m/s^2. Mass is independent :-P The only thing that might affect it is drag, but not too largely.

Well, that is true ^^ but I really will contend that some of these major ricers with the giant wings on the back could create alot of drag. They might even be big enough to "fly" and change the downward vector of the car, thus loosing the race.!

I think the key to diy turbo is the fuel/tuning setup.

Uou can modify the stock manifold easy enuf
Cheap t3 off an older 2.3l turbo ford motor is good enuf
Dsm side mount will work for low power levels
90-91 dsm bov is more then enuf for any boost when crushed
Downpipe eas easliy welded up in a few minutes
Intercooler pipes are the same

Basically i can weld up and build the kit in a day but 2 things concern me...

1: What injector/maf combo to run that will cancel each other out and the ecu can handle. basically what maf can i use from what car that pair up with what flow rate injector? ie; 42lb injectors with 72mm maf.

2: What can the stock botom end handle before it becomes a giant paper weight. 200hp/tq sounds liek a tall order for the little bottom end.

What is the flow rate of the stock fuel pump? will and update to svt pump be needed.

Personally i would not use the dsm side mount unless i really had to. I would go with the srt4 front mount first.

I have not had my car dynoed but a hp calculator based on 1/4 time/trap speed/wieght puts it around 180 whp. I have a couple friends running around 225-245 on a stock bottom end. From what i have seen the stock zetec block reaches its practical limit at about 250whp's.

I am currently using the Aerocharger 5th injector setup with no problems, and yes, fuel is definitely the key.

So far i have spent right under $1000 and it runs like it is stock when not boosting. I have a couple boost issues to deal with, but 13's in the quarter are not impossible going FI under $1k. I made myself a new exhaust after my last run at the track (i was running open dump at the track) and it seems like it pulls harder with the exhaust on. With a little know how and a lot of patience you CAN go fast for cheap.