: I done goofed
11-08-2012, 11:10 PM
So I installed my SS lines. Besides the retaining clips being a PITA, everything went smoothly.
Then I checked the brake fluid reservoir and found it to be nearly empty. The brake pedal feel was nearly non existent, and the pressure would not build up, even after bleeding the brakes (2 man method). The pedal sinks to the floor.
My guess is that I ran the m/c dry, and my bleeding method isn't getting the air out.
Any help is appreciated, especially if I can avoid a mechanic.
11-09-2012, 12:58 AM
Did you bench bleed the master cylinder?
11-09-2012, 07:49 AM
just start over. bleed the master cylinder then work your way around bleeding at each corner.
11-09-2012, 08:18 AM
do you have ABS?
11-09-2012, 09:11 AM
I do not have ABS. I did not bleed the m/c.
I'm going to have to learn how to do this. If anyone has a well-written guide that would be helpful.
11-09-2012, 09:22 AM
did u bleed in this order: pass rear, driver rear, pass front, driver front?
11-09-2012, 04:01 PM
11-10-2012, 02:13 AM
You need to start with bench bleeding the master before you mount, to do this, you install the hoses that come with it into each fitting and route them in to the reservoir and with a full reservoir , pump the master with a large screw driver till there are no more air bubbles .Then you can install it. Once you have it installed, start at the right rear wheel and go around and bleed each wheel .
I have a pdf file that states how to do this from ford not to sure how to u/l it here
11-11-2012, 04:35 AM
Just as an FYI, it was getting to the point in the auto store that most M/C makers were not including the bleeding hoses any more as a cost saving measure. Only the most expensive had them and even then not all did. Pretty funny as one of the requirements for lifetime warranty was that you had to bleed the M/C before installing it.
11-11-2012, 12:37 PM
My current m/c isn't faulty, I'm not sure why it's being suggested that I'm installing a new one. There's just air in there.
11-11-2012, 03:10 PM
I think some responders are only reading part of the thread to answer the "new cyl" question...
The bench bleed suggestion is prob. a guess that it got SO dry that that procedure might help.
I USUALLY vacuum bleed, but sometimes need to pump a bit as well, each method (pressure, vacuum & pump) has "tricks" involved to make it work better and if not done "right" might leave some air in the system.
SHOULD be a simple procedure, but often needs to be done twice or with the right "tricks" to get it done satisfactorily.
11-11-2012, 07:21 PM
I got some help with a mechanic that stopped by real quick.
We managed to get enough air out using the caliper bleeders. The car is now drive-able, but I'd still like a more solid pedal.
Does anyone have any experience with the "phoenix injector" or similar products? I'm willing to part way with some cash if it makes my life easier.
11-12-2012, 12:04 AM
No one suggested a new m/c, it was an FYI to those who may come later, also an indicator that m/c bleeding parts may not be available. The inference was that someone might need to cobble up lines to bleed it.
11-12-2012, 12:54 AM
Start at the master cylinder and bleed the lines coming out of it just like the brakes. Have someone step on the pedal while you crack a line, let fluid out, tighten back up.
After this, go to the wheels, do each of them, and then re-test.
11-12-2012, 11:46 AM
I'll take a look at the master cylinder sometime down the road. It's a pain that it's not within reach.
11-12-2012, 01:02 PM
This works very well and it makes it a one man job