: Focus Project


Oh So Focus'd
08-29-2012, 09:41 AM
So i ended up getting a 2,000 focus ZTS, 5 speed. All stock. And im just about to pay it off and i wanna play around with it. But id like to get a SVT, But im not a big fan of the hatches. They remind me of a mini van.... Sorry :/ But i thought of an idea and need some general help and imput about this. I wanna pull a SVT motor and tranny with the super charger and put it in my car. It'll bolt right in but im aware my wiring will have to be replaced. I was also considering getting a shaved door handle kit for the rear doors so its practically a 2 door. Or welding the back doors shut and sanding them down than painting the car so its a true 2 door. Taking the back seats out and building a system since i work for Pyle/Blitz audio that shouldnt be hard. All in all i wanna have a Svt focus,2 door coupe. Ive never seen one and in my opinion it would be a good looking car. But i would like some imput and see what other people have to say. Thanks!

pyroinsa
08-29-2012, 10:44 AM
I have had your idea for a while. What you will want to do is get ZX3 doors, since they are longer, it will make the car look right. If you can find a rear-ended 3 door SVT that would be perfect. You could pull the drivetrain, suspension, brakes, sideskirts, front bumper, interior and doors. Do some sheetmetal work and you would have a better looking 2 door coupe than you would if you just welded your doors closed. For the rear get an SAP spoiler and bumper. Two ways to mount the SAP bumper, 1 you could get the 05-07 decklid and tails, or you could cut the top part of you rear off and plastic weld it in place of the top of the SAP bumper.

The biggest part to remember is how the car will look when done, if you don't use ZX3 doors it will look like poo.

drunkyoda
08-29-2012, 10:49 AM
I wanna pull a SVT motor and tranny with the super charger and put it in my car.

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pyroinsa
08-29-2012, 10:53 AM
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ugh just got my morning headache...

Didn't notice that, just concerned about the bodywork since I would love to see a 1st gen coupe done right.

drunkyoda
08-29-2012, 10:57 AM
it would not look right on the car one bit... the roof lines are not coupe roof lines at all.. you would litterally have to get longer doors and reform the roof for it to look right

Oh So Focus'd
08-29-2012, 11:00 AM
So pretty much what your saying is im gonna need to take the whole hatchback and put it into my coupe. Just to have the 2 door look. Id rather stay 4 doors lol. How much you think the motor and tranny from a svt will cost me? I know the svt trannies are 6 speed so id like to have that. And i can also go door shave kit for the rear doors and it would give it the effect and look of a 2 door. But they would still open. Makes sense right?

pyroinsa
08-29-2012, 11:02 AM
it would not look right on the car one bit... the roof lines are not coupe roof lines at all.. you would litterally have to get longer doors and reform the roof for it to look right

All first gen Foci share the same dimensions, including wagons(except they are a bit longer after the rear wheel) ZX3's are the exact same as ZX5's, just ZX3's have longer doors, also all doors on a ZX5 are a direct swap into a ZTS, so what I first suggested was to replace the doors on a sedan with the doors from a ZX3, and if the OP got a rear-ended ZX3 SVT, he can use the sheetmetal after the doors on the sides of his newly created coupe. I think it would look good.

pyroinsa
08-29-2012, 11:14 AM
Here are 2 quick chops

ZX3 doors
http://i.imgur.com/M83Vsl.jpg

On this you would just need to get a custom piece of glass made so it doesn't turn out like that

Welded rear doors closed
http://i.imgur.com/FQBVOl.jpg

See, looks like poo.

incubus625
08-29-2012, 11:22 AM
Your better off just swapping a svt motor/tranny into the new 08 - 11 coupes.

Oh So Focus'd
08-29-2012, 11:24 AM
So much work just for the 2 door coupe lol But it can def be done and id have no problem doing it. But you think a focus is worth do this too? Idk what you can push outta the motors but i wont go DSM motors(eclipse,celica,honda) Bc they blow up so easy when you do work to them. But with all this body work on the focus i dont wanna be all show no go. Im obvi gonna do motor work as well. But is a focus worth it in your opinion? Both body work and motor work?[scratch]

pyroinsa
08-29-2012, 11:28 AM
Yes, I do. I would love to see this become a reality, BTW an SVT is 170hp stock, without a supercharger, so yes you can go a long way as far as adding more power to it. If you could find a rear-ended ZX3 SVT for cheap, you would have everything you need.

Oh So Focus'd
08-29-2012, 11:33 AM
But if i went to a 2000-04 mustang with the 4.6 liter i get 310 stock.... But something about focus's i like. Noone does them, And when work is done there different. Im just trying to figure out if its worth the money.

pyroinsa
08-29-2012, 11:37 AM
Read you own sig again and decide for yourself. You will always get those people who say why are you doing that to a Focus? It's just a Focus. IMO all cars are just cars and if you want to take any car and make it stand out, then go for it. Just remember it's your car and your doing it for you, no one else.

Oh So Focus'd
08-29-2012, 12:15 PM
So i just looked at my car for a little while and the doors arent to short and the 2 door wouldnt look bad. Id get the handle shave kit for the rear doors and get new panels on the inside. So the doors will still open but not without the remote. The windows will also open. So it will have the look of a 2 door but still be functinal like a 4 door. Than i can take out the back seats and make the floor level and build my system right behind the front seats. I wont have to do alot of body work, But it can still be a sorta 2 door coupe. And very good point

WiscoGTI
08-29-2012, 12:56 PM
For all the money you're going to spend making this a reality, you might as well just buy an entirely different car that looks better and is already faster than an SVT.

Oh So Focus'd
08-29-2012, 01:12 PM
The process i just posted above isnt gonna be alot of money...[neener]

drunkyoda
08-29-2012, 01:44 PM
Idk what you can push outta the motors but i wont go DSM motors(eclipse,celica,honda) Bc they blow up so easy when you do work to them.[scratch]

you obviously dont know very much about cars.

the only car out of those three that had a Diamond Star Motor(DSM) was the eclipse. This DSM motor was not in the car in fast and furious... also these motors are very strong motors and can handle around 600 on a stock block

a celica... i dont know what they call that motor.. but it would be USDM. i dont like celica's

honda... well what honda? An s2000 (f20) motor can run around 600+ on a stock block. (look up s2k from hell). the single cams are pretty potent with some work and i rarely ever see them "blow up." and the b series/k series motors are also amazing. even the h series even though they are heavy.


with that being said i have seen more foci motors blow than honda motors as DD cars.


i think i am doone with my rant. welding the back doors shut/ shaving them so it looks like a coupe will look like poo and you will get tons of hate. have fun c ya later when you have your flame suit on.

stealthzx3
08-29-2012, 01:52 PM
ZX3 doors
http://i.imgur.com/M83Vsl.jpg

On this you would just need to get a custom piece of glass made so it doesn't turn out like that

this would be epic if you pulled it off.. for realz. but yes, you will need to spend a handful of money, and have a LOT of free time. but i say go for it, it's never been done before.

stealthzx3
08-29-2012, 01:59 PM
Your better off just swapping a svt motor/tranny into the new 08 - 11 coupes.

it wouldn't even be worth it. to put an SVT drivetrain into an 08-11 you would need to swap the whole dash to a 1st gen dash. plus, the duratecs have alot more ponential than the svt engines.

pyroinsa
08-29-2012, 02:02 PM
it wouldn't even be worth it. to put an SVT drivetrain into an 08-11 you would need to swap the whole dash to a 1st gen dash. plus, the duratecs have alot more ponential than the svt engines.

Duratecs came stock with between 130 - 150hp. There might be more options out there to upgrade these motors, idk I don't have one. But the idea of swapping an SVT into an 08 would work, it is still the same platform - just with a new skin.

pyroinsa
08-29-2012, 02:03 PM
this would be epic if you pulled it off.. for realz. but yes, you will need to spend a handful of money, and have a LOT of free time. but i say go for it, it's never been done before.

Yes it would, if I find the time and money I will do everything that I said to the OP in my first comment.

stealthzx3
08-29-2012, 02:08 PM
Duratecs came stock with between 130 - 150hp. There might be more options out there to upgrade these motors, idk I don't have one. But the idea of swapping an SVT into an 08 would work, it is still the same platform - just with a new skin.

yes. they are (obviously) 2.3 compared to 2.0. the duratecs may be a little more difficult to install parts, but they do indeed have more potential. plus who would want a 1st gen dash in an 08-11? [scratch]

Yes it would, if I find the time and money I will do everything that I said to the OP in my first comment.

i agree, i would love to do this if i had the necessities for it. this would be a wicked looking car.

Oh So Focus'd
08-29-2012, 02:29 PM
everyone thinks honda and thinks of s2000. The motors are good until 60xxx miles than the head gaskets go, and the motor starts taking a shit. Im talking honda civics and ludes.....the common cars. And eclipse motors are junk. There time bombs. Celicas suck. Nissan motors are alright. But i dont trust alot of motors. And you can push that power outta any motor. But how they handle is what matters. I thought about building the 2.0 zetec motor. But that i dont know what it can handle. And the zetec is pointless. Theres nothing mechanical that does anything to the motor. Its just a badge. But like i said before. I could just do the handle delete kit for the rear doors and replace the panel on the inside so it has the look of a 2 door but the function of a 4 door. Windows still work,doors still open(wouldnt open em much) And it wouldnt take too much money...Do that with the SAP front end and wing. Slam it, New rims. Itd look good. And since i worl for Pyle/Blitz audio i can get a discount on the Pyle driver system and build the box and system for 1/2 price and take out my back seat and level it out than put my system right behind the front seats. Itd look and sound good. Opinions???

pyroinsa
08-29-2012, 02:32 PM
I thought about building the 2.0 zetec motor. But that i dont know what it can handle. And the zetec is pointless.

The SVT motor is a completely re-worked Zetec. IMO the Zetecs(including SVT's) are one of the best motors from Ford for small compact cars.

stealthzx3
08-29-2012, 02:33 PM
if that's what you want, go for it. it's your car. since you work for a speaker company, wanna hook me up with a sub? [wiggle]

drunkyoda
08-29-2012, 02:38 PM
enjoy your stay. you will be flamed for doing this more than likely... also wings went out with fast and furious... just sayin

Oh So Focus'd
08-29-2012, 02:41 PM
So power wise...Bc stock there pushing 130 if im correct. What should i do? I know intake,exhaust,Simple stuff...But is there anything that i can do? I believe the ford probe gt head will bolt right on and there turbo ready. So i could do that. But anything else?

Oh So Focus'd
08-29-2012, 02:42 PM
if that's what you want, go for it. it's your car. since you work for a speaker company, wanna hook me up with a sub? [wiggle]

Possibly lol

Oh So Focus'd
08-29-2012, 02:42 PM
enjoy your stay. you will be flamed for doing this more than likely... also wings went out with fast and furious... just sayin

Flamed?

stealthzx3
08-29-2012, 02:43 PM
sweeet.

Oh So Focus'd
08-29-2012, 02:48 PM
Im building my system for only like $800 when retail is like $1600. And im doing 2 12's. 2 amps. Capaciter(digital) and tweeters. Gonna be crazy. But i wanna do the car 1st before i do a system. Just dont know where to start. Def wanna paint it though

Mumford
08-29-2012, 03:50 PM
Here are 2 quick chops

ZX3 doors
http://i.imgur.com/M83Vsl.jpg

On this you would just need to get a custom piece of glass made so it doesn't turn out like that

Welded rear doors closed
http://i.imgur.com/FQBVOl.jpg

See, looks like poo.

hell either one dont look to bad IMO lol anything unique is great thats im all for uniquness so i say go for it

Chris_HT
08-29-2012, 05:10 PM
I'd say go the easiest and more beneficiary way, leave the body as it is BUT get SVT brakes and suspension, that is easy but will make night and day difference in handling, then drop in SVT motor and tranny, which will be mostly direct swap because of mounting, but of course you will need SVT ECU, aaaaand I believe also front CV axle is different.

Oh So Focus'd
08-29-2012, 08:40 PM
I was thinking about just getting the door shave kit for the back. Still a 4 door but just without the handles

pyroinsa
08-29-2012, 09:28 PM
I was thinking about just getting the door shave kit for the back. Still a 4 door but just without the handles

I still don't think that it will look right. Your doors in the front will be too short. Maybe you should to your stereo install first( that's what I would do anyway). Do you look at your car, or do you drive it? If you drive it, you can't look at it, so the most logical mods would be comfort mods. I would most certainly start with the things that make you happy while driving it.

When I started modding mine, I couldn't await for the chance to see my cars reflection in a passing window. Is that worth it? Or is doing something that you can hear or feel even better?

Oh So Focus'd
08-30-2012, 08:54 AM
Honestly in my opinion.....both lol But you dont think the shave kit will look good on the back doors? It would still be a 4 door. But just wouldnt give off that look as much.

wants2b rs
08-30-2012, 12:57 PM
i would stick with the shave on this, i think it would look original.

also i think the amount of body work you would have to do on the car to fit the bigger zx3 doors could potentially ruin the handling/stability/safety of the car.
I don't think you could do it without moving the pillars which could get really pricey.

Oh So Focus'd
08-30-2012, 01:01 PM
Yeah, Thats the route i was gonna do. The kit is a little expensive and i gotta do a little body work to cover the handles. But i think it would be nice

stealthzx3
08-30-2012, 02:27 PM
i gotta agree with brian. you will be more satisfied with interior/ drivetrain mods, as you probably drive the car more than you look at it.

Oh So Focus'd
08-30-2012, 02:31 PM
i gotta agree with brian. you will be more satisfied with interior/ drivetrain mods, as you probably drive the car more than you look at it.

Very true

biop8
08-30-2012, 05:15 PM
if that's what you want, go for it. it's your car. since you work for a speaker company, wanna hook me up with a sub? [wiggle]

hook me up tooooo [popcorn]

stealthzx3
08-30-2012, 06:19 PM
i need bump more. [poke] i have it all wired up already.