: SVT brake conversion--> SS braided lines


whynotthinkwhynot
08-12-2012, 10:33 AM
I've seen where some people have purchased SS brake line kits to go on SVT brake converted cars, and had problems with SVT specific brake line kits working.

What's the difference? Does anyone know? I know when I search on C-F-M, then I see a 6 line kit for SVTs, and a 4 line kit for cars with 4 whl disc brakes. I'm fairly certain I only have 4 flexible brake lines, but I'll have to check. Are the other 2 lines with the SVT kit for the ABS pump?

Thanks for any help- I don't want to waste money or time. Brakes are coming soon, and due to 7 years and 140k miles- I'd like to replace the lines also.

Speaking of lines, I know my rear brake line seems about 1/2" short. It works, and I've had no problems in 80k since I did the conversion- it just seems short.

miragesmack
08-13-2012, 09:22 PM
Bump. Interested too, I'm ready to do the swap, and already bought the 6 line ss lines.

thenorm
08-13-2012, 10:05 PM
the rear lines on an SVT go like this:

flex line from body to trailing arm -> hard line up the trailing arm to back of hub -> flex line from hub to caliper.

so, if you didnt have an SVT (and have the existing hard lines), then your 6 piece set is useless (except the front lines).

I ended up using the 4 piece line kit, and its just a touch short, but it still works.

felixthecat
08-13-2012, 10:09 PM
Alex, What I found yrs ago is the russell ss brake line kit is to short for the front & you don't need 4 lines for the rear. If you have rear disc's or a conversion= I used Earls 10mmx 1 female to 10mm x male size 3 hose. Earls pt # 630110_ _ add the leght you want. I used a 18'' long line for the rear. & you will find the front has the same. I ended up going w/ a Baer track kit for the front which use's PBR calipers & banjo lines. Batinc.net has a nice set of lines too. I hope this helps you guys out. Bruce aka felixthecat

thenorm
08-13-2012, 10:56 PM
Alex, What I found yrs ago is the russell ss brake line kit is to short for the front & you don't need 4 lines for the rear. If you have rear disc's or a conversion= I used Earls 10mmx 1 female to 10mm x male size 3 hose. Earls pt # 630110_ _ add the leght you want. I used a 18'' long line for the rear. & you will find the front has the same. I ended up going w/ a Baer track kit for the front which use's PBR calipers & banjo lines. Batinc.net has a nice set of lines too. I hope this helps you guys out. Bruce aka felixthecat

i have the batinc lines, there a 1/2" too short, but they just work.

felixthecat
08-14-2012, 06:42 PM
i have the batinc lines, there a 1/2" too short, but they just work.

So it seems like you'd have to make up your own brake lines then. Thats what I did w/ the rears. W/ Earl's you can make up your own lenght, as long as you know the male & female & hose size, as I posted above.

thenorm
08-14-2012, 08:00 PM
So it seems like you'd have to make up your own brake lines then. Thats what I did w/ the rears. W/ Earl's you can make up your own lenght, as long as you know the male & female & hose size, as I posted above.

they are stretched to the limit at full droop.

felixthecat
08-14-2012, 09:27 PM
they are stretched to the limit at full droop.

That sounds very similar when I had the russell set^^^^ they were so short I couldn't even attach them to the strut loop.

ah1f39
08-15-2012, 12:03 AM
I used the 6pc SVT kit on my ZX5 when I installed my rear discs. Just buy two 12" metric lines and bend them to the S-shape of the SVT steel line.

whynotthinkwhynot
08-18-2012, 10:50 AM
Thanks.

Like I wrote, it seemed like the rubber lines that Ford gave me were just a little short, but those have worked for many moons now- 80k miles or so. It's stretched to it's limit at the limit of the suspension, but it has enough to go that far. F2 used to make brake lines for conversion kits that were just a little longer. It's a shame that others haven't picked up on this. C-F-M makes their own kit for $30 more than the Russel kit, so I'm inclined to inquire.

However, I'm also inclined to take Bruce's advice on just having my own lines made. I know a nice place here in Memphis that does hydraulic lines. They fixed my AC lines for $20 saving me $300. NAPA machine shops used to have that service, and I think if you can find a machine shop- it's not hard nor expensive to get custom lines made. I'd rather give my money locally anyway- if I can manage fastener install as well.