: wierd noise with video


zx5Ye
06-29-2012, 10:53 PM
well, it started after ive changed the axles, weird noise comes from the front right side from the wheel or somewhere around and i cannot figure it out. It makes the sound only when i start moving, forward and backwards. Pretty much everything has been changed, newer ball joints under 5k, brand new end links, new tie rod ends, wheel bearing is a bit older but not much and i do not get any wheel movements when its off the ground. Just greased the brakes trying to solve the problem, checked the dampers, re-torqued everything, still no luck.
When the wheels are off the ground i do not get any sounds, so its only under a load.
I have a feeling its either something to do with the wheel bearing or the maybe lose pads or a bad axle? but again no wheel movement and the brakes do not stick, checked the car moves freely on a tiny incline and no sound when i turn the wheel?
any help would be appreciated
here is the video: that funny clunk sound when i start moving either directions:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiBNxyQnfuc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JiBNxyQnfuc)

Djzx3
06-29-2012, 11:04 PM
Wheel bearing, Or check for play in the drive shaft.

zx5Ye
06-29-2012, 11:10 PM
there is a play in the shaft, but isnt it normal? ive always had it

Djzx3
06-29-2012, 11:19 PM
Have you taken that side apart lately?

Sometimes the hub nut just needs to be re-tightened after a while if maintenance was done on it.

zx5Ye
06-29-2012, 11:23 PM
yea i torqued it to 215, i replaced the shafts so i took/loosened everything apart except for the tie rod

Djzx3
06-29-2012, 11:33 PM
Maybe a bad axle?

I've gotten two bad axle before I got a good one.

1st one, installed it, got in, and tried to move slightly forward, and it did this.
http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx83/03JME/axleproblems003.jpg

Second one did something similar.
http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx83/03JME/Djscamera161.jpg

zx5Ye
06-29-2012, 11:41 PM
ill check them again tomorrow didnt really pay much attention to them today, but when i installed them originally couple of days ago, they looked good after a test drive

Djzx3
06-29-2012, 11:46 PM
Yea even when I did get a good one, that didn't tear up, I still heard like play in the cups when going from rev to drive.

So in the end, I returned that third one too, and went to the junkyard for one, and I plan to rebuild the old one.

I hear some guys just rebuild em, cause of problems such as this, especially with the D23's/D20's.

zx5Ye
06-30-2012, 10:02 PM
just exchanged and replaced the axle and the sound is still there.. so i have no idea what is going on there

Djzx3
06-30-2012, 10:09 PM
did you inspect it? Or just decide to replace it? Waste of time if you didn't visually see anything wrong.

Have you put the car up on stands, and tried turning that wheel by hand to listen?

May be a trans problem? you have now checked everything in that well.

sleepyboy
06-30-2012, 10:13 PM
Maybe upper strut mounts? [dunno] Really just a stab in the dark. You've replaced everything I would have. Maybe it's the transmission?

fhh02a
06-30-2012, 10:13 PM
have you tried moving the car by pushing it? it almost sounds like a bad cv joint or drivetrain issue. are you sure the axle is seated properly?

sleepyboy
06-30-2012, 10:14 PM
Oh and and inspect the crap out of that new axle. I got one with a hole in the boot, can't see that they did any kind of quality inspection that's for sure.

zx5Ye
06-30-2012, 10:29 PM
Oh and and inspect the crap out of that new axle. I got one with a hole in the boot, can't see that they did any kind of quality inspection that's for sure.
its a good one, everything is perfectly sealed and good. so i dunno, ill just leave it as is, and see what happens next :)
thx for the help :)

zx5Ye
06-30-2012, 10:35 PM
Maybe upper strut mounts? [dunno] Really just a stab in the dark. You've replaced everything I would have. Maybe it's the transmission?
yea i haven't replaced that, but it looks alright, maybe i should give a try. theres no way to inspect it tho?

zx5Ye
06-30-2012, 10:37 PM
have you tried moving the car by pushing it? it almost sounds like a bad cv joint or drivetrain issue. are you sure the axle is seated properly?
theres no leaking, so i suppose they are fine, i tried pushing it, then jacked up the car, and nothing, only when i accelerate with wheels on the ground, but the sound comes from the wheel or really close to it, not really tranny

fhh02a
06-30-2012, 10:54 PM
could be the outside CV joint..

and the strut mount....there is no way to look at without it being out of the car. they are cheap and easy to replace.

zx5Ye
06-30-2012, 11:01 PM
[QUOTE=fhh02a;4238500]could be the outside CV joint..

and the strut mount....there is no way to look at without it being out of the car. they are cheap and easy

yea but i just got the another new axle, so maybe its normal for these oriles axles, and theres literally nothing left to replace. i dunno.... ill pick up the mount tomorrow so and replace it

fhh02a
06-30-2012, 11:09 PM
i still think you dont have the axle seated right... but thats me

zx5Ye
06-30-2012, 11:34 PM
i still think you dont have the axle seated right... but thats me
when installing it do i have to rubber hammer it a bit or just slide it in by hand? coz that little bracket that holds it in place in right exactly in the middle, so i figured its in a perfect position

Djzx3
06-30-2012, 11:37 PM
It's on the passenger side, right?

I had a problem like this, but a little worse on my D23, I replaced everything, then found out it was the motor mount.
http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx83/03JME/D23motormount001.jpg
And a week later it came back, so I inspected my other torque mount, even know I replaced the torque mount and trans mount 6 months ago, and this happened.

Cheap F'in Autozone crap. And FYI: I don't care what other people say about Autozone torque mounts, they have proven to me that they are shit. So don't give me shit for calling em shit.
http://i744.photobucket.com/albums/xx83/03JME/AnchorAutozone004.jpg

zx5Ye
06-30-2012, 11:41 PM
i have a poly tranny mount, but i was thinking of replacing the passenger mount, good point, i completely forgot about it, ill replace that also :) hahah by the time i fix this problem i could prolly buy a new car for the amount of money spent

Djzx3
06-30-2012, 11:55 PM
lol, I did replace everything but the driver side axle.

And good choice, I also went with the poly inserts from CFM, easiest mod I've ever done for the performance it gives you.

Some people say they fall out, but they must be putting them into replacement torque mounts, I have talked to a ton of people that say if you use the stock torque mount, you will have no problems.

zx5Ye
06-30-2012, 11:57 PM
but still, it really sounds that its coming from the wheel, or really close to it, like the outer cv, or maybe wheel bearing, tomorrow ill loosen the axle and hummer it in a lil bit more if i can. The poly bushing doesnt really aloow much movement and no grease or anything comes out off the passenger mount, just checked.. grrr pisses me off, what the hell is it

zx5Ye
07-01-2012, 09:07 PM
i still think you dont have the axle seated right... but thats me
just unbolted the axle and tried to hammer it in a Lil more, no luck, still the same, what you mean by not seated properly tho? you can't really install it wrong, cuz of that bracket that holds it, it's right on top and the nut is 233 pounds?

fhh02a
07-01-2012, 09:10 PM
i was talking more splines not being seated right..more like misaligned

zx5Ye
07-01-2012, 09:21 PM
i was talking more splines not being seated right..more like misaligned

sorry, don't really get it. misaligned meaning one of the axles take more room than the other in the tranny? coz im trying to understand and theres not really much you can do/mess up there, the driver side is only the washer and hub nut that is holding it and the pass side is that bracket and a hub nut
or you are talking about the actual alignment, coz its messed big time now after i changed the outer tie rod ends, but id like to figure this problem out asap before getting the aliment done

zx5Ye
07-01-2012, 09:23 PM
ohhh the part is bad?

Mr.Bergner
07-02-2012, 11:50 AM
Jack the front of the car up and remove both wheels. Then spin the rotor by hand and listen carefully for where the sound is coming from. I couldn't tell at all from that video what was going on due to the exhaust.

But if you have a stethoscope handy, you can even use that to help locate the source, but may need someone to spin the rotors while you investigate.

I came across this thread because I am 99% certain my front driver side bearing is bad. I replaced that axle not long ago and I beat the crap out of the old one trying to get it separated from the knuckle. Perhaps you're having the same issue?

Strangely, I have Ford bearings on hand already so now I'm looking for part numbers to ensure I have the proper ones (bought these for my 2001 Focus which I no longer have, I'm assuming they're the same but you never know)

zx5Ye
07-02-2012, 12:11 PM
when the car is off the ground, I get no sounds, and everything spins nicely. I used a gear puller to remove the axle from knuckle and bearing has been replaced two years ago of so, hopefully it's not it, plus there's no wheel movement when the car is jacked up

fhh02a
07-02-2012, 12:26 PM
The sound only comes noticeable with weight of the car being on the front wheels?

Have you tried rolling it around in neutral? Tht way you can eliminate the transmission gears.

Did you replace tht strut mount yet?

We are just throwing out ideas, hope we are helping

zx5Ye
07-02-2012, 01:38 PM
no haven't done the mounts yet, and nothing inn neutral. also I've noticed that now the sound only comes with a harder acceleration, when I start slowly I don't hear it...

fhh02a
07-02-2012, 02:23 PM
As stated before, Chk the wheel bearings and strut mount. I know tht you changed the bearings once but they might have gone bad

zx5Ye
07-02-2012, 02:41 PM
how so I check the wheel bearing? besides to try to move the around? Coz it's solid and spins freely. the strut mounts ill change within couple of days

fhh02a
07-02-2012, 02:56 PM
Chk the lower ball joint also. It might be shot, never know

zx5Ye
07-02-2012, 02:58 PM
checked it when replaced the the second axle, was pretty solid to move, and it's a Lil different sound when you start moving plus again no wheel movement 12 to 6 o'clock