: Gd tpms light!!!!


DarderSauce
06-05-2012, 02:48 PM
Just replaced my factory wheels/tires (had TPMS) with a set of EAP's (do not have TPMS) and now my GD low pressure light is always on and I was wondering if there is any way to disable this little bastard. A lot of people say it is illegal but I know there has to be a way to do it. I have to get my computer reset before I can replace the airbag (went off in front end collision) and was wondering if I could just get the low pressure code wiped clean as well.

BEFOR ANSWERING
Please don't suggest getting TPMS sensors for the new wheels/tires. I feel like anyone that actually relies on these sensors to tell them their tires are low is a fool and I don't want to spend the $$ on them.

Any information is greatly appreciated!

MisterX
06-05-2012, 03:04 PM
Im not sure if this will work but I have to disconnect my NEG battey cable to have the computer rest and it goes off, if not there is a light behind the dashboard you could take out, which that might seem a lot of work. Im no mechanic but I've seen it done with friends of mine who have done it this way. Hope it all works out for you.

DarderSauce
06-05-2012, 03:08 PM
Im not sure if this will work but I have to disconnect my NEG battey cable to have the computer rest and it goes off, if not there is a light behind the dashboard you could take out, which that might seem a lot of work. Im no mechanic but I've seen it done with friends of mine who have done it this way. Hope it all works out for you.

I would take out the bulb from behind the dash but whenever I start the car I still have to reset the digital dash readout. I think it says something like "you're a Dumb@$$ and can't check your tire pressure" [joke] But it does come up with an error message on each start.

If there was something I could do to skip the "reset process" each time I start my car that would be great.

MisterX
06-05-2012, 03:13 PM
oh then i would have no clue, as i stated above im no mechanic im learning all this through trail and error and what i see when im with friends who help me out.

Snyper
06-05-2012, 03:28 PM
Mines been coming on for awhile now because of some reason that I do not know, I just hit the reset button. I plan on doing the same when I get new wheels & tires. Them TPMS sensors are far to expensive for me.

DarderSauce
06-05-2012, 03:32 PM
*sigh* after reading many posts on the internet about this worthless feature that was mandated for all passenger vehicles, I realize there is no way to bypass the GD thing. Next question.... Where is the cheapest place I can get some sensors because I hate the light/malfunction code that comes up and I don't want to have to reset it every time I drive the car.

DarderSauce
06-05-2012, 03:35 PM
Mines been coming on for awhile now because of some reason that I do not know, I just hit the reset button. I plan on doing the same when I get new wheels & tires. Them TPMS sensors are far to expensive for me.

I don't want to either just because I know they will only last for so long before they malfunction and I have to buy new ones anyway...... Especially for a feature I don't want/need on my car. Even if I do find a cheap place to buy/install them I won't want to spend the money on it..... Might just have to live with the reset process/bulb removal.

If I can get these for like $60 I would consider buying them. Anyone know how much it costs to get them installed?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-TPMS-sensors-pack-of-4-/270978601441?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AFord%7CModel%3AFocus&hash=item3f179551e1&vxp=mtr

Also says they would not work for an '08 focus..... can anyone tell me why? Or does the seller just not know what they're talking about?

Snyper
06-05-2012, 03:46 PM
I don't want to either just because I know they will only last for so long before they malfunction and I have to buy new ones anyway...... Especially for a feature I don't want/need on my car. Even if I do find a cheap place to buy/install them I won't want to spend the money on it..... Might just have to live with the reset process/bulb removal.

If I can get these for like $60 I would consider buying them. Anyone know how much it costs to get them installed?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-TPMS-sensors-pack-of-4-/270978601441?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AFord%7CModel%3AFocus&hash=item3f179551e1&vxp=mtr

Also says they would not work for an '08 focus..... can anyone tell me why? Or does the seller just not know what they're talking about?

Probably depends on the hourly rate where you get them installed. I know some places are up to $92/hour for labor here in NY. I'd look into the sensors if they are as cheap as whats listed there on eBay. Although another $100 for labor is kinda rough.

DarderSauce
06-05-2012, 03:52 PM
Ya I don't want to pay someone $100 to install them.... plus you are probably looking at another $100 for them to reprogram them for you. What a useless thing to have on a vehicle, at this point it is more of a distraction than a safety feature.

Snyper
06-05-2012, 04:28 PM
I agree. Ignorance is bliss when I see that light come on. I'd hope that anybody who is old enough to drive can determine without a flashing light telling them so, that they are having a flat tire.

bringler26
06-05-2012, 07:03 PM
step 1 pvc piping
step 2 put sensors in pipe
step 3 seal pipe
step4 add valve stem
step 5 program sensor
step 6 pressurize
step 7 freedom.

Indy'sexclusiveZx3
06-05-2012, 07:12 PM
Or you could just put them in the tires because he would have to buy the sensors anyways

DarderSauce
06-05-2012, 07:17 PM
Or you could just put them in the tires because he would have to buy the sensors anyways

I was thinking the same thing.

st12131
06-05-2012, 07:21 PM
step 1 pvc piping
step 2 put sensors in pipe
step 3 seal pipe
step4 add valve stem
step 5 program sensor
step 6 pressurize
step 7 freedom.

now that's a great answer! I expect to see these for sale soon!

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bringler26
06-05-2012, 07:34 PM
Or you could just put them in the tires because he would have to buy the sensors anyways

I was thinking the same thing.

yeah except you would never have to deal with reprogramming. Just leave it in your trunk all the time. You could also put electrical tape over the light. or ignore it.

DarderSauce
06-06-2012, 10:41 AM
So can anyone tell me if there was a difference between the sensors in 08 compared to 2009-11? Like I said I want to buy them from this fella on ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/270978601441?ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1952.l2649

But the add says they are only compatible with '09 & '10 model years.

Any help is appreciated!

Peregrine
06-06-2012, 10:57 AM
There isn't a fuse that you could pull to disable them?

mac.mogul
06-06-2012, 11:01 AM
Aren't our sensors the band type? Couldn't they just put the old sensors on the new wheels?

Also, I'm not sure about our cars, but I think you HAVE to have the tpms or the computer puts the car in limp-mode.

DarderSauce
06-06-2012, 11:20 AM
Aren't our sensors the band type? Couldn't they just put the old sensors on the new wheels?

Also, I'm not sure about our cars, but I think you HAVE to have the tpms or the computer puts the car in limp-mode.

They could put the old sensor on the new wheel if I still had them, but they were sold. I don't see why they would have changed the sensor type in 09 compared to 08..... I can't go with band cuz I don't have sync "i.e., no bluetooth"

Edit: Mac I think you are right, these wouldn't work on my car. I checked and the only sensors we ('08) can get are:

6F2Z-1A189A
7L1Z-1A189A (both Band type)

I though the band type all synced up with the car through blue tooth but I guess I was wrong...... Damnit, I wish I would have known about this before I got the new tires mounted on the damn rims! Now I am going to have to pay more to get them mounted/programmed.

DarderSauce
06-06-2012, 12:07 PM
Alright so I checked ebay and these are the most reasonable sensors I can find.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/190671283737?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

Can anyone verify if they will fit an 08 focus? It says they are compatible but also says

FITMENT: Please verify application with your local dealership prior to bidding. We are NOT responsible for fitment. Applicatin charts compatibility is suggested applications only.

Edit: I just got off the phone with Discount Tire and asked them if I could get a discount on the TPMS install since I had recently purchased 4 new tires and didn't realize the TPMS sensors were not already on them. They said no and that it would cost $30 per sensor to install. I will probably get the sensors eventually but I am not going to get them put on until I need new tires all together (then install/programming is included for free).

mac.mogul
06-06-2012, 12:44 PM
Beware of hidden fees. There is a "reset tool" that must be used when replacing TPMS sensors and most shops won't tell you about it until it comes time to pay.

Also, AFAIK the Ford OE band sensor is the same across the board. I believe the bands are adjustable and you will need the Ford TPMS reset tool in order to activate the sensors. (For future reference of course)

DarderSauce
06-06-2012, 12:56 PM
Beware of hidden fees. There is a "reset tool" that must be used when replacing TPMS sensors and most shops won't tell you about it until it comes time to pay.

Also, AFAIK the Ford OE band sensor is the same across the board. I believe the bands are adjustable and you will need the Ford TPMS reset tool in order to activate the sensors. (For future reference of course)

Ya I asked them what the cost was and they said $30 which included programming fees. So when you say "AFAIK band sensor is the same across the board" are you saying I can use any type of band sensor from other ford vehicles and they would work with my TPMS system?

Thanks for the future information btw, it's appreciated. [8D]

mac.mogul
06-06-2012, 01:01 PM
I don't see why they wouldn't, but you would still need the Ford TPMS reset tool. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-TPMS-TIRE-PRESSURE-SENSOR-RESET-CALIBRATION-TOOL-/230754075896?hash=item35ba03c4f8&item=230754075896&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr#ht_1310wt_1159)

DarderSauce
06-06-2012, 01:05 PM
I don't see why they wouldn't, but you would still need the Ford TPMS reset tool. (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FORD-TPMS-TIRE-PRESSURE-SENSOR-RESET-CALIBRATION-TOOL-/230754075896?hash=item35ba03c4f8&item=230754075896&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr#ht_1310wt_1159)

OOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH I see, when you say hidden costs you mean since they have to reset them (after being on another vehicle) that it would be an additional costs. Sorry I thought that was the same thing as programming them. Also not too sure if any band type sensor would work. I was just looking @ a website with all the different types of TPMS sensors and a bunch of them are different (model # that is).

If they would charge to reset the used sensors (prly around $10 a sensor) it would be cheaper to just buy 4 new ones for $140.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ford-OEM-TPMS-Tire-Pressure-Sensors-Bands-Set-of-4-New-/190538664659?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&fits=Make%3AFord%7CModel%3AFocus&hash=item2c5cfd4ad3

instead of paying $100 for old/used ones why not just get brand new.

mac.mogul
06-06-2012, 01:09 PM
Well, the model numbers may be different but I have a very hard time believing that Ford produces a specific sensor for each individual model of vehicle in their lineup from 2007+

DarderSauce
06-06-2012, 01:38 PM
Well, the model numbers may be different but I have a very hard time believing that Ford produces a specific sensor for each individual model of vehicle in their lineup from 2007+

I would agree with that as well but one thing they may have changed was the way they sync up with the cars CPU. Since '08 was the first year sensors were required they may have just thrown one on there and improved it later. I would just hate to buy any sensor thinking it would work and have the shop tell me it doesn't. They could even look at the part # on it and say it's not the one for my vehicle... Regardless of whether it may work or not (those bastards). I mean, I would just take it to another shop but still the less hassle the better especially for a feature I find worthless and annoying.

JakeTheSnake
06-06-2012, 03:35 PM
Geez, what a pain in the ass!

I'm glad my ZTS does not have them - after reading this thread I'm going to avoid them at all costs in future cars if I can!

mac.mogul
06-06-2012, 03:37 PM
Geez, what a pain in the ass!

I'm glad my ZTS does not have them - after reading this thread I'm going to avoid them at all costs in future cars if I can!

Well as long as you buy cars manufactured before 2007, You'll be just fine.

JakeTheSnake
06-06-2012, 03:46 PM
Well as long as you buy cars manufactured before 2007, You'll be just fine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tire-pressure_monitoring_system#Legislation

I resent this so much...

GD Sheeple is why we have legislation like this!

http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/rulings/tpms_fmvss_no138/part3-4.html#4

Target Population: ignorant sheeple who don't have enough sense to take care of basic routine car maintenance.

mac.mogul
06-06-2012, 03:52 PM
Or we could all just put on our big-boy pants and deal with it.

JakeTheSnake
06-06-2012, 03:55 PM
Oh I'm a big boy, with the 40-inch pants to match. ;)

I am a big advocate of less government and more personal responsibility, in my 42 years of life it seems like things are going quite the opposite, in a hurry. This is a shining example of that I think. It makes me sad. [mecry]

mac.mogul
06-06-2012, 03:59 PM
When it comes to stuff you do in the privacy of your own home, I agree. Keep the government out.

But when it comes to three thousand pound hulks flying down the highway at 70mph it becomes everyone's problem and the fewer chances for shit to go wrong the better.

Just because I'm smart enough to keep my tires properly inflated does not mean that johnny teenager in the SUV next to me has any clue what air pressure is.

JakeTheSnake
06-06-2012, 04:49 PM
Well said.

DarderSauce
06-06-2012, 08:19 PM
Ha ha so I was telling my dad about the sensor and he said he could find someone to turn it off.

Red Jay 918
06-06-2012, 08:31 PM
hope you re-used the same sensors from the factory wheels. if you did then check pressures, drive on it or take it to the dealer if all else fails!

Entrical
06-06-2012, 08:38 PM
You have an '08, so your sensors are the banded type. You don't need to buy new sensors. All you have to do is buy new bands (you need to cut the old ones off) and swap the sensors to the new wheels.

My shop would charge the following:

$90 for the new band kit (comes with four new bands, cradles, and clips)
$10 to dismount the tires with on the wheels with the sensors (per wheel, $40 total)
$$20 to dismount, install sensors/bands/cradles/clips, re-mount and balance wheels ($80 total)

No charge for resetting your TPMS as you won't need to with the same sensors your car came equipped with.

$210. It's pricey, I know, but it's a time consuming (and somewhat tedious) process. I usually just charge $200 flat for the job. Thank Ford for the retarded design. It's much easier to swap the Valve Stem type TPMS.