: He has a Twin Turbo Civic!!! who knew?!
09-06-2003, 01:31 AM
Tonight I was hanging out in my dorm room with my buddy when this guy from New York who is known throughout my school as a bser came in. We started talking about cars, he told me that he raced alot but didnt know anything about cars. He then told me what car he had and what was done to it. This part is funny, he told me that he had a Twin Turbo Civic vtec, with an intake and exhaust, that ran an amazing 11 second quarter mile. So i proceeded to tell him that he could take a mclaren... needless to say he tried to dig himself out of the hole, but with no luck. Then the funny part came, we were talking about racing and just to call his bs i asked him if he double clutches when racing... he then dug himself deeper by answering yes after that i asked him if he does it when accelerating... he said yes again. ofcourse... well i am in shock because last time i checked. double clutching was a method of slowing down, i can just see him trying to go from 1st gear straight to 3rd trying to WIN the race. oh well. i pretty much shut him down. OHHH and he said that he found a 1994 RX-7 Twin Turbo in some bushes up in NY before he left, and he went to the county to see if he could have it.... and ofcourse they just let him take it.. sure. ok
this guy is full of it.. thought you guys would find this funny.
09-06-2003, 01:32 AM
Thats not what double clutching is.
09-06-2003, 01:42 AM
i know what double clutching is. its a method of slowing down by skipping a gear but revving so that your rpms match the lower gear. i just said that he would skip gears bc thats essentially what he would do .. thanks for being a dick...
09-06-2003, 01:47 AM
you sure it wasnt Robert you were talking to?
09-06-2003, 01:48 AM
hahaha... it could have been...
09-06-2003, 01:50 AM
That makes no sense. Why would you call that double clutching? Its just downshifting. Double clutching is a technique used on unsynchronized transmissions to avoid grinding gears. Its basically put in clutch, take out of gear, let up on clutch then put it back in then switch to higher gear. Either way it is totally unnecessary on modern cars. So is skipping 2 gears triple clutching or what?
09-06-2003, 01:53 AM
sry to inform u but i remember readin from a mag that it was done by the older car when the mtx sucked backed then..they would have to go from 1st to neutral.then to 2nd..instead of jus goin to 1st to 2nd.....n last time i knew it..downshifting is when u go from a high gear to a low gear..so how is goin from 1st to 3rd downshifting? hmmm
09-06-2003, 01:56 AM
n btw zarelli6 check ur private messages..go to ur user cp
09-06-2003, 02:00 AM
YOU GUYS NEED TO READ IT RIGHT... i said he told me that he was double clutching when accelerating. you dont double clutch when accelerating ( at least with good trannies ) so i was BEING SARCASTIC.. and its not just for speeding up and slowing down with bad trannies. its also for slowing down from high speeds with perfectly good trannies... so yeah thanks for the response... read it twice next time... MODERN double clutching is this... say your in 4th gear and need to slow down fast... you put the clutch in take it out of 4th put it in neutral then rev to the rpms that match with 2nd gear and then put in the clutch quickly and put it into 2nd and since you reved in neutral youll match the rpms in 2nd all that in order to slow down faster (oxymoron, slow down faster) without killing your brakes. thanks again robert and focuzdriver ...im not sayin anyone does it.. im sayin thats what double clutching is. look it up . i was merely calling his bluff because no one would do that when racing. its like saying hey when racing do you check your engine oil.???? except for the fact that he doesnt know what double clutching is.. IT WAS A FUNNY STORY DONT CRITIQUE EVERYTHING..
09-06-2003, 02:01 AM
Actually, that reminds me. it could be used for downshifting as well for an unsynchronized transmission as well. Does the same thing except make it match the speed of the lower gear instead of the higher one.
You basically said the exact same thing i said. shifting from lower gear to neutral, then the next one.
Wow!!! 1st to 3rd isnt downshifting??? Man, im glad you're here to tell us these things. Thank you captain obvious. wtf?
09-06-2003, 02:02 AM
downshifting is called downshifting. not double clutching.
09-06-2003, 02:04 AM
why in the name of jesus' left testicle would you need to rev up the engine when downshifting? Your synchros already match the speed of your lower gear. Hence the term a "synchronized transmission"
09-06-2003, 02:06 AM
ok gee sry..maybe sum ppl should point things out better around here..but anyways
09-06-2003, 02:10 AM
yeah its a synchronized transmission but what if you dont want to lurch off the road? its to make the skip of gears smooth.
09-06-2003, 02:11 AM
lurch off the road? what is that?
09-06-2003, 02:11 AM
thanks for screwin up this thread and my story.. as far as im concerned robert you can go jump of something really high ... thanks
09-06-2003, 02:13 AM
lurch off the road, as in lurching REALLY bad
09-06-2003, 02:13 AM
hey zarelli6..go check ur private messages..its in the user cp
09-06-2003, 02:14 AM
what the hell is lurch?
09-06-2003, 02:18 AM
You know, the really tall guy on that old show "The Addams Family"...
09-06-2003, 02:19 AM
Seriously though, Robert, in your own words... "Why don't you go look it up"... It's in the dictionary.
09-06-2003, 02:19 AM
Main Entry: 4lurch
Etymology: origin unknown
1 : a sudden roll of a ship to one side
2 : a jerking or swaying movement; also : STAGGER 3
09-06-2003, 02:20 AM
why should i when there are people on here that dont mind wasting their time answering questions like this? duh...
09-06-2003, 02:21 AM
haha lurch dude... do you live in a hole? like what happens when you are goin 70 mph and put it in 1st.... what do YOU think would happen...? would that be SMOOTH.?? no
09-06-2003, 02:22 AM
haha focuzdriver thanks for the OFFICIAL definition.. robert needs alot of help i know
09-06-2003, 02:22 AM
I was never dumb enough to try this. Plus have you tried putting it in 1st at anything above 30? it will not go in without incredible force
09-06-2003, 02:23 AM
but anyways this thread has turned to crap thanks to robert...
09-06-2003, 02:25 AM
DUDE ROBERT SHUT UP ITS A DAMN EXAMPLE... YOUR A FREAKIN DEVILS ADVOCATE... I REPEAT WHAT I SAID BEFORE GO JUMP OFF SOMETHING REALLY HIGH
09-06-2003, 02:25 AM
yup he has a thing bout screwin up things n bashin ppl but oh well
09-06-2003, 02:26 AM
cute. quit bitching.
09-06-2003, 02:29 AM
hey robert y dont u go on the HDC forum n bash ppl there [}:)]
09-06-2003, 02:32 AM
we will quite bitching when you quit being a tool
09-06-2003, 02:34 AM
n since ur stupid robert...hdc is hackers.com...go there n go on there forum n bash ppl...im sure they will take kindly of u hehe [}:)] [hihi]
09-06-2003, 02:45 AM
haha robert should keep it up.. maybe he'll piss off the person that kicked supersoaker out of the forum ( anyone notice he hasnt posted in a while haha ) but whoever that is that can kick people i hope robert makes him mad.
09-06-2003, 02:46 AM
every post i have seen of yours on this on this whole forum are has either been ignorant, retarded, and/or homophobic. Quit siding with somebody that doesnt know what they're talking about just because you dont like me. Not smart.
sorry, but your technique of double clutching makes no sense, has no purpose, and is really gay. Not to mention, i have no idea why it would even be called double clutching. It is just reving when you downshift.
09-06-2003, 02:51 AM
ok at least i try to help on here instead of coming on and bashing ppl like u do n ur jus doin it cuz all the kids made fun of u and u jus make fun of ppl n bash them because it happend to u
09-06-2003, 02:51 AM
yeah ok ... i know what im talking about and double clutching is that.... and this is the key to this whole thread... I DONT CARE IF IT DOESNT MAKE SENSE TO YOU.. i didnt invent double clutching ... i dont use it... i was just throwin it in a conversation to prove that the guy doesnt know what hes talking about... focuzdriver is fine ... i can see now why he wouldnt like you . i thought you were alright until now
Originally posted by TheOtherRobert
sorry, but your technique of double clutching makes no sense, has no purpose, and is really gay.
it is not my technique bud...when did i say that i made it up or use it? NEVER ....
09-06-2003, 02:56 AM
thanks for fixxing that..i was tryin to figure out when he said all that shyt lol but it better now
09-06-2003, 02:59 AM
hey robby tell me whatcha got on that focus SE of yours?
09-06-2003, 03:05 AM
Actually, now that i think of it double clutching could help when downshifting, but definitely not the way you are talking about it. It could help prevent wear on the synchros. If you put the clutch in, put it in neutral, let the clutch out, put it back in then quickly shift into the lower gear, then it would help you. So you are like 1/2 right, but i dont think it would even matter much enough to worry about it in the first place. whatever. eitherway, its a stupid/pointless idea to double clutch on a newer car upshifting or downshifting.
09-06-2003, 03:08 AM
why do you need to know?
09-06-2003, 03:09 AM
im tryin to change the damn subject...
09-06-2003, 03:10 AM
has anyone seen cradle 2 the grave?
09-06-2003, 03:14 AM
Hey robert, thought I might jump in here. Do you drive a manual? I'm guessing not, because there are only two ways to downchage at speed without screwing your transmission and jerking yourself through the windscreen.
1 - Match engine revs to the lowe gear, by blipping the throttle then letting the lower gear pick up smoothly.
2 - heel toe braking, where you brake with the toe of your foot and slide the heel over and blip the throttle to match revs again while still applying brake pressure.
They're both about smooth downchanges and not busting the gears out of your transmission and leaving them behind on the tarmac behind you.
09-06-2003, 03:14 AM
nope havent seen it
but robert i dont think you understand what im telling you... i dont do it or think that it is a good thing to do...
thanks for the support syndey but just check this again and he'll have some dumb response ... see look.. im sure right below this there is one... or will be one. he doenst seem to understand
09-06-2003, 03:17 AM
ok this is lame forget it already
09-06-2003, 03:19 AM
i saw it last nite..good movie
09-06-2003, 03:22 AM
i agree.. this thread is dead
^ see the coolest thing about this thread now is that i just rhymed ... how gay
09-06-2003, 07:44 PM
twin turbo civic hmm i should talk to this guy [limp] sorry if i'm coming in this late just seems funny he would say that
09-06-2003, 08:50 PM
Originally posted by TheOtherRobert
If you put the clutch in, put it in neutral, let the clutch out, put it back in then quickly shift into the lower gear,
sorry, this was meant to read:
If you put the clutch in, put it in neutral, let the clutch out, rev it up, put it back in then quickly shift into the lower gear
before i go on, here is a brief schematic description of the engine and transmission part of the drivetrain.
engine -> clutch -> layshaft -> gear selector -> various transmission gears
Thanks, but i am not going to listen to an austrailian about cars. I dont have an automatic, but what the hell does an automatic have to do with a clutch anyway? How possibly can you screw up a synchronized transmission by downshifting without reving? On an unsynchronized one, the gears would grind pretty badly, but the worst that would happen on these ones would mess up the synchros a tiny bit (if any) when you let it out. If you have shifted into the gear already, then your transmission works fine. Listen carefully. The synchros on your car are used to make the layshaft/s match the gear that you are going to. If you did this on a car without synchromesh, you would have to make the layshaft go to the speed of the new gear yourself. This is when you would double clutch. The layshaft would be going to fast to match the speed of the higher gear. So you would take it out of gear, and put it in neutral. by the time you get it in neutral, the engine should be reving a lot less. Then let out the clutch. Since the engine is rotating slower than the layshaft, the layshaft will slow down and would be going closer to the speed of the next highest gear. then put the clutch back in, and shift into the next gear. Truckers and drivers of really old pick up trucks do this because the transmission is not synchronized. On a synchronized transmission, doubleclutching is useless. That is unless you are a [:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)] and like to take 1st or 2nd gear as much as you can then shift into 5th gear, which can mess up the synchros over time if you keep doing somethig stupid like that. Otherwise, it would be useful for downshifting, but would pretty much only if you oftenly come into a situation where you had to downshift. You would have to be going like 90 mph or more to be in a situations where you would significantly wear down the pads and/or rotors when you hit the brakes. So i doubt too many people come into that situation very often. Other than that double clutching will not make any difference at all and you should not have to use it ever.
When you do it like you guys are describing it, all its gonna do is either mess up the clutch if you rev it too much, or not make any difference at all. Its not gonna "lurch off the road" (wtf?) or mess up the transmission. How could it? Do you not understand that you are already in gear when you are reving? If you shifted to a lower gear without any problem, then your transmission is working fine.
09-06-2003, 09:15 PM
On a side note:
i would appreciate it if the mods and/or admins would quit trying to ban me. Thank you.
09-06-2003, 09:51 PM
Uh, Guys, Robert is right. Double clutching is a technique used on unsynchroed transmissions to bring everything up to speed. It does this by spinning the input shaft when you release the clutch the first time. The second time that you disengage the clutch you make the gear switch.
You can screw up a modern trans though Robert. If you just go cramming gears all the time you will damage the blocker rings. This was part of the reason that SVT used the Tremec TKO in the Cobra R. The blockers were more durable.
Without making a personal attack, the rest of you guys are SQUIRRELS! You sit around talk about mufflers that give you thirty horsepower and super derectumfied katooter valves. In the meantime anyone in the know smokes your a** on a regular basis.
If you really wanted to know what the guy had, you should've just went outside and popped his hood.
If there is any doubt that remains on the subject, pull into a local truck stop, find the oldest guy in the joint and ask him.
09-07-2003, 12:51 AM
I know. i have screwed up mine some.
09-07-2003, 01:49 AM
oldschool .... OBVIOUSLY YOUR A MORON... I DONT GIVE A SHIT WHAT YOU THINK. AND I KNOW WHAT DOUBLE CLUTCHING IS... IVE EXPLAINED THAT 25 TIMES OF THIS DAMN THREAD.. YOU ARE A MORON... AND THATS NTO ALL WE TALK ABOUT IF YOU READ THE WHOLE THREAD YOU WOULD KNOW THAT I WAS JUST USING THAT AS AN EXAMPLE TO PRVOE THAT THE GUY DIDNT KNOW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT... THANKS FOR THE DUMB ASS INPUT AND NEXT TIME JUST SKIP IT... THIS THREAD IS [Censored][Censored][Censored][Censored]ED ANYWAYS. IVE ALREADY TOLD YOU GUYS 50 TIMES THAT IT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WOULD DO... I WAS SAYIN THAT HE HAD NO IDEA WHAT HE WAS TALKIN ABOUT... THANKS OLDSCHOOL YOU CAN JOIN ROBERT OFF THAT CLIFF GOODBYE ...or bad whichever you choose... READ THE WHOLE THREAD NEXT TIME
09-07-2003, 01:50 AM
btw im glad you only have 3 posts cuz i hope you never show up again.. your a pain in the ass. READ THE WHOLE THING>> and look it up... double clutching is exactly what i explained... usefull or not thats what it is
and also i think that sydney is 50 times better than you... i would take one eighth of sydney over you....
09-07-2003, 01:53 AM
all > tubgirl > Zarelli6
Therefore, Zarelli6 is the lowest form of anything that has walked the earth and should be shot close range, stabbed, and have a dog make love to the wounds.
09-07-2003, 01:58 AM
Robert you're an absolute idiot. NOT listen to an Australian about cars? Where the hell did that come from? Coming from the country that [Censored][Censored][Censored][Censored]ED up the Focus by building it outside Europe, ruining the design and making it one of the most recalled cars ever... very admirable...
It's [Censored][Censored][Censored][Censored]ers like you who give the rest of your otherwise great country such a terrible image worldwide, the typical ignorant, selfish and stubborn pig who just wants to eat his McDonalds, burn his 300 gallons of fossil fuels per week and all the rest that goes with it. The majority of the people on this forum are at least trying to help without making into a catfight. Just appreciate that there are people worldwide here who are all just trying to help each pother out.
I love my Mcdonalds and burn my fossil fuels too, I'm just not a rude prick about it. If it wasn't for the unfortunate 0.001% of idiots acting like that "I'm not going to listen to you, I'm too good to listen" opinion, the world would be a better place, Australia, everywhere else and most certainly the US would.
Get a life and go buy a Civic like all the other [Censored][Censored][Censored][Censored]ers
09-07-2003, 01:59 AM
noone trys to ban anyone, if the want you banned you will be[thumb] if i were one of them this trash would be locked
09-07-2003, 02:02 AM
09-07-2003, 02:07 AM
well i think this is about time that we all call you a moron...neither of you understand what the hell im talkin about.. only the people that can READ understand what i was saying
09-07-2003, 02:09 AM
Could you at least explain why your method of double clutching is called double clutching?
09-07-2003, 02:10 AM
zarellie, let's just leave it. It's not worth the time and getting frustrated about. I'm going for a drive in my Focus, that'll put the smile on my face anyday. Have a good one guys and gals. [driving]
09-07-2003, 02:13 AM
You could at least try to show that you know what you are talking about. You seem pretty confident about it anyway. Why is it called double clutching?
09-07-2003, 02:18 AM
ok ill explain it... but first... i dont use it... nor do i think it is useful... it is merely a way of downshifting... double clutching as in putting and letting out the clutch twice ( hence double ) just for one shift. thanks ... again... i dont do it ... and it is not MY method...
09-07-2003, 02:28 AM
That is pretty much exactly what i told you it was. So why do you say that oldschool and i are wrong and/or stupid when we told it to you??
09-07-2003, 02:29 AM
because i was drunk when i typed that... and you both pretty much told me that it was my method and that i loved using it and because i love using it im a moron
09-07-2003, 02:32 AM
You are lame, dude.
09-07-2003, 02:34 AM
everyone...just drop it, this is leading no where, wanna argue some more...send each other pm's or an e-mail.
09-07-2003, 02:40 AM
alright thats it ... i hate him... hes a tool... im done with this thread. if your a mod and can kill this thread. please do... just kill it.. i made it so i give you permission to kill it
09-07-2003, 02:46 AM
ive tried, but oh wait.......
09-07-2003, 02:53 AM
09-07-2003, 03:44 AM
Zarelli, only because you have attacked me, if you persist in this nonsense I will call YOUR BS daily. I seriously encourage you to check your resources and bow out gracefully.