: F'n peace of $ht...


02svtf300
01-23-2012, 10:25 PM
This new luk clutch master cylinder didn't even last a whole month... 28 days to be exact.

Why can't someone make a better version... guess I'm gonna have to i refuse to buy another luke... [rant][rant]

RoCitySVT
01-23-2012, 11:00 PM
u squirtin' a banshee eh? i know a thing or 2 about that. used a vr 32-1 wheel on the flywheel though for ign control with an hei 2 pole coil off a gm 3.1l v6. worked awesome. just had problems with MAF software on the old ms2v3 (v2.831 code). i would like to try a micro someday soon on my cheetah cylinders. Would be sick to have all that power and running clean...more trail friendly.

let me know if your following me... Cause your thread topic is foreign to me. Why not use a stock master?

mikebontoft
01-23-2012, 11:11 PM
I seemed to follow that to some extent, up until cheetah cylinders [rofl]

The Luk is likely just a stock replacement but he probably doesnt realize there is something else causing it to fail prematurely... cause and effect, yes?

Macky21
01-24-2012, 11:26 AM
I put a LUK kit into my SVT after it blew up at FF '11 and I haven't had any issues. Have you had your car inspected for anything?

drunkyoda
01-24-2012, 11:41 AM
have you inspected your foot for laying on the clutch?

FLYLOW
01-24-2012, 03:19 PM
my gc had luk clutch and fly wheel from factory.... they are the cheapest shi++iest clutches ive seen... it started making weird sounds like 4 weeks after buying the car.

this is how it was when i finally took it off, dual mass FW and clutch was terrible too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRuRZva1nBw

fakitol
01-24-2012, 06:37 PM
Apparently you have a bad luck or don't now how to drive stick shift :) just my idea

02svtf300
01-24-2012, 08:40 PM
u squirtin' a banshee eh? i know a thing or 2 about that. used a vr 32-1 wheel on the flywheel though for ign control with an hei 2 pole coil off a gm 3.1l v6. worked awesome. just had problems with MAF software on the old ms2v3 (v2.831 code). i would like to try a micro someday soon on my cheetah cylinders. Would be sick to have all that power and running clean...more trail friendly.

Ya I get the Jist of wat ur saying... still in the gathering up parts stage till recently work getting slow with winter.... an I've replaced the clutch master cyc. 4 times now is a POS if they don't leak the linkage snaps

02svtf300
01-24-2012, 08:46 PM
The Luk is likely just a stock replacement but he probably doesnt realize there is something else causing it to fail prematurely... cause and effect, yes?

Cause > stage three clutch masters kit
effect > higher hydraulic pressure

So in that... I can see why it would leak, not ment to handle HP... but why they snap is just shty craftsmanship

02svtf300
01-24-2012, 08:49 PM
Inspected... by me, I don't trust the stealership

An no I don't ride the clutch... but don't see how that would snap the linkage anyhow

02svtf300
01-24-2012, 08:52 PM
Apparently you have a bad luck or don't now how to drive stick shift :) just my idea

Im 24 and owned 4 sticks... is at least one thing I can do right

02svtf300
01-24-2012, 08:55 PM
I put a LUK kit into my SVT after it blew up at FF '11 and I haven't had any issues

I was there I think I remember if it happend on the strip

BigRed03
01-25-2012, 08:06 AM
are you sure youre getting the correct SVT slave from LUK? because the SVT/getrag and MTX75 use different slaves even though they are identical externally!

02svtf300
01-25-2012, 08:19 AM
Ive bought them from ford and auto zone an even ordered one from cfm once... all the same

sleepyboy
01-25-2012, 08:21 AM
I ordered a Wagner brand from Rockauto and got a Luk brand (OEM) with the serial number scratched off lol

02svtf300
01-25-2012, 04:27 PM
So far luk is the only manufacturer of the MC ive found... no one even sells or makes anything different... im going to call wilwood to see if they have one that i could custom fit

macdiesel
01-25-2012, 06:04 PM
Just curious, have you checked the pin connected to the clutch pedal assembly that actuates the clutch master cylinder. The pin can develop play. Ford uses a puddy to hold the actuating pin in place and it can flex. I went threw two clutch master cylinders and was like wtf? Finally my pin broke, had it welded on and have not had any clutch cylinder problems.

Only other things I can think of is maybe air in the system or improper install. I've never heard of people running upgraded clutches blowing out clutch master cylinders.

zetecDon
01-25-2012, 06:17 PM
I put a LUK kit into my SVT after it blew up at FF '11 and I haven't had any issues. Have you had your car inspected for anything?

I was there I think I remember if it happend on the strip

No, he was the one that was on the exit ramp before the hotels after FF11 was over.

jwill2489
01-25-2012, 06:31 PM
is the luk the same as the one from the dealer?

Macky21
01-25-2012, 07:23 PM
No, he was the one that was on the exit ramp before the hotels after FF11 was over.

Taking it down the strip definitely didn't help...the root cause was the flywheel separating from the crank shaft due to shoddy work from before I bought the car

Macky21
01-25-2012, 07:24 PM
is the luk the same as the one from the dealer?

Are you saying is the LUK the same as the stock clutch? If that's what you're asking, no it is not.

Ford made the clutch and flywheel available for order, but only for a limited amount of time. The OEM replacement hasn't been available for at least three years.

jwill2489
01-25-2012, 07:33 PM
Are you saying is the LUK the same as the stock clutch? If that's what you're asking, no it is not.

Ford made the clutch and flywheel available for order, but only for a limited amount of time. The OEM replacement hasn't been available for at least three years.

this thread is about the clutch master cylinder.... not the clutch

im asking if the LUK CMC is the same as the OEM Ford CMC

macdiesel
01-25-2012, 07:40 PM
Rock auto sells 4-5 different brands of cmc's for dohc. Not sure if they are all for zetecs or not.

bmxsvt85
01-25-2012, 07:44 PM
how much HP do you have

02svtf300
01-25-2012, 07:45 PM
have you checked the pin connected to the clutch pedal assembly that actuates the clutch master cylinder. The pin can develop play. Ford uses a puddy to hold the actuating pin in place and it can flex. I went threw two clutch master cylinders and was like wtf? Finally my pin broke, had it welded on and have not had any clutch cylinder problems.

That I have it broke on my last replacement an had to weld it back in

jwill2489
01-25-2012, 07:46 PM
So far luk is the only manufacturer of the MC ive found... no one even sells or makes anything different... im going to call wilwood to see if they have one that i could custom fit

OEM FORD, is it the same as the LUK that failed?

jwill2489
01-25-2012, 07:48 PM
how much HP do you have

im thinking its his clutch thats the issue, not his HP numbers. the CMC wasnt designed for that clutch, is putting more strain on it.


thats my guess

bmxsvt85
01-25-2012, 07:54 PM
im thinking its his clutch thats the issue, not his HP numbers. the CMC wasnt designed for that clutch, is putting more strain on it.


thats my guess

yeah no kidding im not an idiot but if he doesnt make 300 or more he doesnt need that clutch and could downsize to a stg 1 or 2 both of witch have a good amount of grabbing power and less pedal force witch will put less stress on the MC.

02svtf300
01-25-2012, 07:55 PM
Luk is the only one I've found... I get all the air out, I use a syringe to pull the fluid out until I have no more bubbles, been doing it that way for a while it's been pretty effective even on brakes.

how much HP do you have

^not really shur 185 is the average on my torque android app (if u don't no wat it is its acutely pretty cool) but I've never had it ran on a really dyno, I think my upgrades are in my profile

jwill2489
01-25-2012, 07:58 PM
Luk is the only one I've found... I get all the air out, I use a syringe to pull the fluid out until I have no more bubbles, been doing it that way for a while it's been pretty effective even on brakes.



^not really shur 185 is the average on my torque android app (if u don't no wat it is its acutely pretty cool) but I've never had it ran on a really dyno, I think my upgrades are in my profile

whats wrong with the motorcraft one from the dealer...... i dont believe its LUK. i just put one on this past fall. yeah i have a stock clutch, but ive been using it for 3+ months. call up tousley and see if the LUK and Motorcraft are one in the same, if not try one of those


http://focus.c-f-m.com/fordclutchmastercylinderfor02-10focusdurateczetecsvt.aspx

ford part number is under details

02svtf300
01-25-2012, 07:59 PM
im thinking its his clutch thats the issue, not his HP numbers. the CMC wasnt designed for that clutch, is putting more strain on it.

thats my guess

I agree... but wats done is done im putting a nothing "pos" on it for now but I am going to find a alternative

bmxsvt85
01-25-2012, 08:03 PM
okay i just read your mods and you should only have a stg 1 or an oem clutch

jwill2489
01-25-2012, 08:03 PM
actually ill do you one better!!

http://www.tousleyfordparts.com/parts/2003/FORD/FOCUS/SVT/?siteid=214771&vehicleid=1414998&section=CLUTCH&group=HYDRAULIC%20SYSTEM&subgroup=HYDRAULIC%20SYSTEM&component=MASTER%20CYLINDER

thats the part #1M5Z7A543AA

and thats touselys site with discounts on FJ forum. his number is at the top. call and ask for Steve, and then explain your issue. Hes a big help and he owns an SVT himself.

that is the OEM CMC

02svtf300
01-25-2012, 08:04 PM
I've been to my local ford wen it fist went out and got a luk then...

I've never delt with tousley... but I've nothing but good things, were can I find there ## I don't even no were there located... if he can get me something that dosnt say luk ill give it a try

bmxsvt85
01-25-2012, 08:05 PM
stg 3 clutch is for med. boost or 100 shot

02svtf300
01-25-2012, 08:05 PM
actually ill do you one better!!

http://www.tousleyfordparts.com/part...TER%20CYLINDER

thats the part #1M5Z7A543AA

and thats touselys site with discounts on FJ forum. his number is at the top. call and ask for Steve, and then explain your issue.

Thanks u bet me to the punch...haha

02svtf300
01-25-2012, 08:07 PM
stg 3 clutch is for med. boost or 100 shot

Boost was in its nere future till I lost my job

jwill2489
01-25-2012, 08:08 PM
no problem dude, thats what these forums are for. give him a call tomorrow, and see what he can do for you!

when mine went bad, it just leaked, it never snapped. you should also make sure there is no side so side play with the clutch pedal itself. any play will put extra tension on the plastic rod. thats no good! LUK could just be junk.

Always go OEM Ford from dealer, unless part is discontinued. Especially with the SVT, half the parts store order or sell you normal zetec stuff, the other half dont even know what a SVTF is!

lemme know what Steve says.

02svtf300
01-25-2012, 08:13 PM
^^ ya no wat u mean... thanks an I will

jwill2489
01-25-2012, 08:14 PM
yeah no kidding im not an idiot but if he doesnt make 300 or more he doesnt need that clutch and could downsize to a stg 1 or 2 both of witch have a good amount of grabbing power and less pedal force witch will put less stress on the MC.

No one said you were?

BigRed03
01-26-2012, 08:10 AM
Someone over on FJ was having issues with clutch master cylinders like you and customized one.

http://forums.focaljet.com/shift/650878-project-you-luk.html