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02svtf300 01-23-2012, 10:25 PM This new luk clutch master cylinder didn't even last a whole month... 28 days to be exact.
Why can't someone make a better version... guess I'm gonna have to i refuse to buy another luke... [rant][rant]
RoCitySVT 01-23-2012, 11:00 PM u squirtin' a banshee eh? i know a thing or 2 about that. used a vr 32-1 wheel on the flywheel though for ign control with an hei 2 pole coil off a gm 3.1l v6. worked awesome. just had problems with MAF software on the old ms2v3 (v2.831 code). i would like to try a micro someday soon on my cheetah cylinders. Would be sick to have all that power and running clean...more trail friendly.
let me know if your following me... Cause your thread topic is foreign to me. Why not use a stock master?
mikebontoft 01-23-2012, 11:11 PM I seemed to follow that to some extent, up until cheetah cylinders [rofl]
The Luk is likely just a stock replacement but he probably doesnt realize there is something else causing it to fail prematurely... cause and effect, yes?
Macky21 01-24-2012, 11:26 AM I put a LUK kit into my SVT after it blew up at FF '11 and I haven't had any issues. Have you had your car inspected for anything?
drunkyoda 01-24-2012, 11:41 AM have you inspected your foot for laying on the clutch?
FLYLOW 01-24-2012, 03:19 PM my gc had luk clutch and fly wheel from factory.... they are the cheapest shi++iest clutches ive seen... it started making weird sounds like 4 weeks after buying the car.
this is how it was when i finally took it off, dual mass FW and clutch was terrible too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRuRZva1nBw
fakitol 01-24-2012, 06:37 PM Apparently you have a bad luck or don't now how to drive stick shift :) just my idea
02svtf300 01-24-2012, 08:40 PM u squirtin' a banshee eh? i know a thing or 2 about that. used a vr 32-1 wheel on the flywheel though for ign control with an hei 2 pole coil off a gm 3.1l v6. worked awesome. just had problems with MAF software on the old ms2v3 (v2.831 code). i would like to try a micro someday soon on my cheetah cylinders. Would be sick to have all that power and running clean...more trail friendly.
Ya I get the Jist of wat ur saying... still in the gathering up parts stage till recently work getting slow with winter.... an I've replaced the clutch master cyc. 4 times now is a POS if they don't leak the linkage snaps
02svtf300 01-24-2012, 08:46 PM The Luk is likely just a stock replacement but he probably doesnt realize there is something else causing it to fail prematurely... cause and effect, yes?
Cause > stage three clutch masters kit
effect > higher hydraulic pressure
So in that... I can see why it would leak, not ment to handle HP... but why they snap is just shty craftsmanship
02svtf300 01-24-2012, 08:49 PM Inspected... by me, I don't trust the stealership
An no I don't ride the clutch... but don't see how that would snap the linkage anyhow
02svtf300 01-24-2012, 08:52 PM Apparently you have a bad luck or don't now how to drive stick shift :) just my idea
Im 24 and owned 4 sticks... is at least one thing I can do right
02svtf300 01-24-2012, 08:55 PM I put a LUK kit into my SVT after it blew up at FF '11 and I haven't had any issues
I was there I think I remember if it happend on the strip
BigRed03 01-25-2012, 08:06 AM are you sure youre getting the correct SVT slave from LUK? because the SVT/getrag and MTX75 use different slaves even though they are identical externally!
02svtf300 01-25-2012, 08:19 AM Ive bought them from ford and auto zone an even ordered one from cfm once... all the same
sleepyboy 01-25-2012, 08:21 AM I ordered a Wagner brand from Rockauto and got a Luk brand (OEM) with the serial number scratched off lol
02svtf300 01-25-2012, 04:27 PM So far luk is the only manufacturer of the MC ive found... no one even sells or makes anything different... im going to call wilwood to see if they have one that i could custom fit
macdiesel 01-25-2012, 06:04 PM Just curious, have you checked the pin connected to the clutch pedal assembly that actuates the clutch master cylinder. The pin can develop play. Ford uses a puddy to hold the actuating pin in place and it can flex. I went threw two clutch master cylinders and was like wtf? Finally my pin broke, had it welded on and have not had any clutch cylinder problems.
Only other things I can think of is maybe air in the system or improper install. I've never heard of people running upgraded clutches blowing out clutch master cylinders.
zetecDon 01-25-2012, 06:17 PM I put a LUK kit into my SVT after it blew up at FF '11 and I haven't had any issues. Have you had your car inspected for anything?
I was there I think I remember if it happend on the strip
No, he was the one that was on the exit ramp before the hotels after FF11 was over.
jwill2489 01-25-2012, 06:31 PM is the luk the same as the one from the dealer?
Macky21 01-25-2012, 07:23 PM No, he was the one that was on the exit ramp before the hotels after FF11 was over.
Taking it down the strip definitely didn't help...the root cause was the flywheel separating from the crank shaft due to shoddy work from before I bought the car
Macky21 01-25-2012, 07:24 PM is the luk the same as the one from the dealer?
Are you saying is the LUK the same as the stock clutch? If that's what you're asking, no it is not.
Ford made the clutch and flywheel available for order, but only for a limited amount of time. The OEM replacement hasn't been available for at least three years.
jwill2489 01-25-2012, 07:33 PM Are you saying is the LUK the same as the stock clutch? If that's what you're asking, no it is not.
Ford made the clutch and flywheel available for order, but only for a limited amount of time. The OEM replacement hasn't been available for at least three years.
this thread is about the clutch master cylinder.... not the clutch
im asking if the LUK CMC is the same as the OEM Ford CMC
macdiesel 01-25-2012, 07:40 PM Rock auto sells 4-5 different brands of cmc's for dohc. Not sure if they are all for zetecs or not.
bmxsvt85 01-25-2012, 07:44 PM how much HP do you have
02svtf300 01-25-2012, 07:45 PM have you checked the pin connected to the clutch pedal assembly that actuates the clutch master cylinder. The pin can develop play. Ford uses a puddy to hold the actuating pin in place and it can flex. I went threw two clutch master cylinders and was like wtf? Finally my pin broke, had it welded on and have not had any clutch cylinder problems.
That I have it broke on my last replacement an had to weld it back in
jwill2489 01-25-2012, 07:46 PM So far luk is the only manufacturer of the MC ive found... no one even sells or makes anything different... im going to call wilwood to see if they have one that i could custom fit
OEM FORD, is it the same as the LUK that failed?
jwill2489 01-25-2012, 07:48 PM how much HP do you have
im thinking its his clutch thats the issue, not his HP numbers. the CMC wasnt designed for that clutch, is putting more strain on it.
thats my guess
bmxsvt85 01-25-2012, 07:54 PM im thinking its his clutch thats the issue, not his HP numbers. the CMC wasnt designed for that clutch, is putting more strain on it.
thats my guess
yeah no kidding im not an idiot but if he doesnt make 300 or more he doesnt need that clutch and could downsize to a stg 1 or 2 both of witch have a good amount of grabbing power and less pedal force witch will put less stress on the MC.
02svtf300 01-25-2012, 07:55 PM Luk is the only one I've found... I get all the air out, I use a syringe to pull the fluid out until I have no more bubbles, been doing it that way for a while it's been pretty effective even on brakes.
how much HP do you have
^not really shur 185 is the average on my torque android app (if u don't no wat it is its acutely pretty cool) but I've never had it ran on a really dyno, I think my upgrades are in my profile
jwill2489 01-25-2012, 07:58 PM Luk is the only one I've found... I get all the air out, I use a syringe to pull the fluid out until I have no more bubbles, been doing it that way for a while it's been pretty effective even on brakes.
^not really shur 185 is the average on my torque android app (if u don't no wat it is its acutely pretty cool) but I've never had it ran on a really dyno, I think my upgrades are in my profile
whats wrong with the motorcraft one from the dealer...... i dont believe its LUK. i just put one on this past fall. yeah i have a stock clutch, but ive been using it for 3+ months. call up tousley and see if the LUK and Motorcraft are one in the same, if not try one of those
http://focus.c-f-m.com/fordclutchmastercylinderfor02-10focusdurateczetecsvt.aspx
ford part number is under details
02svtf300 01-25-2012, 07:59 PM im thinking its his clutch thats the issue, not his HP numbers. the CMC wasnt designed for that clutch, is putting more strain on it.
thats my guess
I agree... but wats done is done im putting a nothing "pos" on it for now but I am going to find a alternative
bmxsvt85 01-25-2012, 08:03 PM okay i just read your mods and you should only have a stg 1 or an oem clutch
jwill2489 01-25-2012, 08:03 PM actually ill do you one better!!
http://www.tousleyfordparts.com/parts/2003/FORD/FOCUS/SVT/?siteid=214771&vehicleid=1414998§ion=CLUTCH&group=HYDRAULIC%20SYSTEM&subgroup=HYDRAULIC%20SYSTEM&component=MASTER%20CYLINDER
thats the part #1M5Z7A543AA
and thats touselys site with discounts on FJ forum. his number is at the top. call and ask for Steve, and then explain your issue. Hes a big help and he owns an SVT himself.
that is the OEM CMC
02svtf300 01-25-2012, 08:04 PM I've been to my local ford wen it fist went out and got a luk then...
I've never delt with tousley... but I've nothing but good things, were can I find there ## I don't even no were there located... if he can get me something that dosnt say luk ill give it a try
bmxsvt85 01-25-2012, 08:05 PM stg 3 clutch is for med. boost or 100 shot
02svtf300 01-25-2012, 08:05 PM actually ill do you one better!!
http://www.tousleyfordparts.com/part...TER%20CYLINDER
thats the part #1M5Z7A543AA
and thats touselys site with discounts on FJ forum. his number is at the top. call and ask for Steve, and then explain your issue.
Thanks u bet me to the punch...haha
02svtf300 01-25-2012, 08:07 PM stg 3 clutch is for med. boost or 100 shot
Boost was in its nere future till I lost my job
jwill2489 01-25-2012, 08:08 PM no problem dude, thats what these forums are for. give him a call tomorrow, and see what he can do for you!
when mine went bad, it just leaked, it never snapped. you should also make sure there is no side so side play with the clutch pedal itself. any play will put extra tension on the plastic rod. thats no good! LUK could just be junk.
Always go OEM Ford from dealer, unless part is discontinued. Especially with the SVT, half the parts store order or sell you normal zetec stuff, the other half dont even know what a SVTF is!
lemme know what Steve says.
02svtf300 01-25-2012, 08:13 PM ^^ ya no wat u mean... thanks an I will
jwill2489 01-25-2012, 08:14 PM yeah no kidding im not an idiot but if he doesnt make 300 or more he doesnt need that clutch and could downsize to a stg 1 or 2 both of witch have a good amount of grabbing power and less pedal force witch will put less stress on the MC.
No one said you were?
BigRed03 01-26-2012, 08:10 AM Someone over on FJ was having issues with clutch master cylinders like you and customized one.
http://forums.focaljet.com/shift/650878-project-you-luk.html
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