: New to Sport Tuner, just bought 04 SVT


Elgin2004SVT
09-26-2004, 11:33 PM
I have an 04SVT every freakin option available, running AEM CAI now what. More power the better please. Thanks for your input. And whats all this Ive been reading about reprogramming, is there somthing wrong with the computers Im not aware of? Thanks.

LastRites
09-26-2004, 11:46 PM
You have an 04' and the most current program available. I second what he said though, go ORP [thumb]

xgambit
09-27-2004, 01:32 AM
hope the dealership gave you the new clutch.

welcome.

STKVSTDA
09-27-2004, 08:41 AM
WELCOME ABOARD! do you have the means for forced induction?

Elgin2004SVT
09-27-2004, 08:48 AM
Little slower please. Im new at this. ORP? Means of forced induction? All I can say is money is not an issue.

Turbo_SVT420
09-27-2004, 08:50 AM
ORP - Off Road Pipe - eliminates the cat, so u have a more free flowing exhuast

Forced induction - Turbo/Supercharger.

Elgin2004SVT
09-27-2004, 09:03 AM
haha, yea I knew that why did I ask. LMAO, anyhow, is the ORP legal? I was just looking at that last night, and I do have to pass emissions here. If its street legal and not smog no be deal I can just change for inspection. As per turbo/supercharger I looked at alot of different set ups. Which is better? I saw Jackson Racing SC for 3100 that includes intercooler. And the turbo kit I saw for twice that but has the same dyno specs. So in everyone's opinion, which direction woudl you go? Thanks.

Turbo_SVT420
09-27-2004, 09:06 AM
ORP is not legal. you would have to take it off, and reinstall every year to pass emissions.

Go Turbo. better then supercharger in my opinion, if u want big power gains. Alot more boost to be had from a turbo as well. Expecially if money is no option, go turbo.

Elgin2004SVT
09-27-2004, 09:10 AM
Turbo_SVT420, I like ur name all 3 parts, 420 is right now lol. Anyhow, Ill order an ORP in the meantime while I still debate the turbo/SC discussion. How much of a diff does underdrive pulley's have? if you know, thanks.

Elgin2004SVT
09-27-2004, 09:14 AM
OH and for anyone who wants to know, my build is 1795 of 1978 on 3/25/04 at the Hermosilo plant.

Turbo_SVT420
09-27-2004, 09:17 AM
the UPD's bring up good mid-range torque, and higher HP, but cant give u direct numbers. they are a good upgrade, but you only need the single pulley kit.

Elgin2004SVT
09-27-2004, 09:22 AM
What like for the cam or crank pulley? that single pulley you mean. Another ? if you got time, IM looking for about 300+ BHP out of my SVT. Thats my goal, see I was driving a 78 chevy 1/2 ton with a bored.40 over 350/ edelbrock performer package(carb,intake, cam). So I need power, and at this weight to power ratio, god its gonna be fun to drive.

PS, even stock it eats a lot of hondas. Oh yea.

Turbo_SVT420
09-27-2004, 09:27 AM
The Single pulley kit, is only the crank pulley, if im thinking right. but if your looking for 300+, definantly, a turbocharger is the way to go. talk to Tom at www.focus-power.com, he will be able to help you with your goal alot. ive seen 250WHP at 10PSI of boost, with the correct tuning. 300 should be a good,easy goal, but u mide as well go for 400 :P. hey, you said money was no object.

Elgin2004SVT
09-27-2004, 09:34 AM
Yea it is no object, but hows the drivability on a 400hp focus. This takes me to work. Well when I work at the office it does. and Wow`10psi for 250whp, thats awesome

Turbo_SVT420
09-27-2004, 09:36 AM
Oh you would LOVE to drive it. lol, i know i would. your lucky, with the money situation, so take advantage, and build something fast, and reliable. get a Quaiffe LSD and it will greatly increase drivability, even before the turbo.

Elgin2004SVT
09-27-2004, 09:37 AM
LSD? that limited slip differential?

Turbo_SVT420
09-27-2004, 09:39 AM
Yes, LSD - limited slip diff. Our SVTs come stock with an open diff... so they are kinda, peglegged. the new diff would make you hook up alooot better

Elgin2004SVT
09-27-2004, 09:42 AM
sweet, you recommend any performance driving schools? im in the northeast, near philly,pa.

Elgin2004SVT
09-27-2004, 09:47 AM
You know since I read that the SVTF was not going to be made since the redesign, I thought about replacing my g/f's ZX3 with an SVT

Elgin2004SVT
09-27-2004, 09:56 AM
WEll i checked out focus-power.com. One thing I do not like is the turbo must be tuned in-house and theyre' in NC but from reading the front page an SVT 290WHP on their turbo, im there.

SVTmonkey
09-27-2004, 10:04 AM
Ok, seriously, if you're gonna recommend to someone that they remove their catalytic converter, you should let them know the entire story....

First off, under the Anti-tampering law in the US (Federal Clean Air Act) you can get fined up to $2500 for taking off your CAT (this applies to all of USA). So yes it is illegal! Secondly, under the same act, your car manufacturer can legally void your warranty should you tamper with the CAT. Thirdly, SVT spent a lot of time and engineering integrating the CAT into the whole system...why the hell would you mess with it? And finally, by taking off the CAT you are polluting like 20 vehicles...there is no good reason to be so goddamn ignorant.

Anyways, sorry for the rant, I'm just sick of people promoting ignorance...I wonder why we are in the situation we are in now...breathe that sweet smog and watch your environment corrode as you bathe yourself in McDonalds and gameboys and wheel spinners...[?|]

Elgin2004SVT
09-27-2004, 10:10 AM
Actually I read a report on CNN last year that the government did a study and foudn that cars only polluted 10% of what they origianlly stated. Its not a reason to continue polluting, im just stating they are not as bad as thought, but they still do pollute. But thanks for the input. And as for the warranty, Im pretty sure as soon as Ford would pop the hood and see the turbo, they would void the warranty on the spot. So Im not worried about that, if I wanted a warrant y I would have bought a dodge.

STKVSTDA
09-27-2004, 01:20 PM
lol funny

so here is my 2cents... if you're serious about this then you need to spend alot of time to research... look and talk to guys like tom and some other boosted guys have done it and learn what issues they've had and what works. Although they are 'bolt-ons' they aren't, right? lol If it's something you look to do for the spring (not sure where you're located and if you have a winter) then keep in contact with me... hehehe I also am building 300+Hp turbo'd SVTF for next year shhh lol. STKVSTDA (Stock vs. Steeda)

Elgin2004SVT
09-27-2004, 04:02 PM
Yea Ill keep in touch. Most likely all work will be done next year as we(fiance and I) are just about ot buy a house, so down money eats a lot of the savings. And yes , unfortunately, I do have winters sometimes bad ones, we havent had one in about 10 years so we're good for a real bad one. With more of us driving faster domestic cars we can finally bring some respect to street/strip racing with a domestic sport compact. Some of my friends atleast respect the SVT's handling ability. I cant wait, got a 12.4 sec GSX eclipse to beat , thats the fastest vehicle out of my friends. Anyhow, you can email me if you want. Im pretty sure its in my profile.

xgambit
09-27-2004, 04:52 PM
just dont try to race your friend in the winter, his awd will kill you, FI or NA.

Infra3sv
09-28-2004, 02:37 AM
Lsd, clutch, full exhaust, big turbo, slicks, a shift light, and you might be able to hang with your buddy on the highway. 12.4 is really fast! If he's running that consistently you'll have to venture into uncharted territory because I don't think I've seen any SVTs in the 12s. If you really want to go that fast and money isn't an issue you could transform the Focus into a V8 rear wheel driven monster but that probably wouldn't be very good in the winter.

Here's some sites you might want to check out.
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/projectcars/0409scc_focus/
http://www.focus-power.com/view.php?showme=SVT_Kit
http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/products/yourcar/02-03svt_focus.html
http://www.jacksonracing.com/Shop/ViewProducts.aspx?PlateIndexID=37672
http://www.ford-v8-focus.com/
http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/roadtests/0404scc_focus/
http://www.kugelkomponents.com/

afalzone
09-28-2004, 04:56 AM
Elgin,

When we all can't breathe the air in 20 years I'll know who to thank. [rolleyes]

coleslaststand
09-28-2004, 03:30 PM
Putting on an ORP just shows a total lack of sensitivity towards the environment. Plunk down the 2.5 g's for a JRSC ---- and you'll run circles around most of the sports compacts that you'll come across. Plus supercharges are less stressful on your engine than turbos, not to mention, they require less maintenance.

STKVSTDA
09-28-2004, 03:55 PM
[i] Plus supercharges are less stressful on your engine than turbos, not to mention, they require less maintenance. [/B]

Depends what kind of performance you're looking for. For me, turbo all the way, suits my goals.

Toolman00
09-28-2004, 09:00 PM
I also agree with removing the cats... at least get a hi-flow cat. Not only does an ORP make a bit of HP for it's cost and pollute, but it also makes your car MUCH louder!

Silver03SVT
09-28-2004, 10:18 PM
I agree 100%, keep the CAT, show some foresight and integrity.