: 2003 Ford Mustang GT Concept
10-31-2003, 06:27 PM
I've heard of the GT but not the Mustang GT Concept
2003 Ford Mustang GT Concept pictures (http://www.velocityjrnl.com/jrnl/2003/vmd9387ml.html)
10-31-2003, 06:32 PM
Is it still a concept? I heard that its being released in 2005.
10-31-2003, 06:48 PM
That's the ride that's supposed to be hitting dealerships next September, right? I think I want one!
10-31-2003, 07:04 PM
no sir, i dont like it, i dont like it at all
10-31-2003, 07:12 PM
That's the concept, but it is the look they're aiming for as the new 2005 Mustang - if you don't like it, I hope you're not in the market for a new Mustang in a few years, cause it's gonna look something like that. These are spy shots from Autoweek of a prototype in testing:
10-31-2003, 07:12 PM
10-31-2003, 07:13 PM
10-31-2003, 07:16 PM
i hate it
i love the new style...
def cold use a little more refinement here and there....but no much !
10-31-2003, 08:51 PM
it is the basis of the 2005 mustang. The basic lines will be there. But there will be door handles, and no glass roof. There is speculation that the cobra will have a 500 hp supercharged V-8 in it. I am going to trade my focus on one when they come out!! gorgeous car. Hey solaris.. would you like it if they made it a front wheel drive ZETEC powered car? LOL. I think us older ones on the board will like it alot, as it looks alot like the '67-'68 mustang. You younuns need to get some taste!! Kidding all.
10-31-2003, 09:18 PM
I don't think it looks too bad, not a huge fan of retro, but I've seen worse.
*cough* PT Cruiser *cough*
At least it looks somewhat original and it's true that the interior of the Mustang could use some TLC. All in all, they could have done worse, despite the fact that the current model is the best looking 'Stang since it was concieved.
10-31-2003, 09:19 PM
Originally posted by vanace
...it looks alot like the '67-'68 mustang.
That's one of the main reasons I like it. I think it looks really cool - something about the current Mustang has never quite sat right with me. The redesigned roundy-looking one in the 90's was too girly-looking, but the wierd mixture of curved/rounded lines and sharp edges and angles of the current Mustang don't look that great to me, either. This new one is going to fly off the showroom floor if it looks even close to the concept - maybe by that time I will be able to afford one myself?? [8D]
10-31-2003, 11:36 PM
I have my sights set on one also. Def gettin the Cobra though. I ain't screwin up this time by just getting the V6. LOL. I love the whole fastback look of the car. I was going to buy an old fastback but since the new ones will look about the same and come with all the modern features that building up an old one would miss I think I will save up my money for the newer one! [:D]
11-01-2003, 12:31 AM
I'd so trade in my focus for that car!!!! hell part it out and sell sell sell :) I am 19 by the way....a "youngon"...I LOVE the car...I hope my friends dad will be drivin one home when they get em on the showroom floor :)
11-01-2003, 12:51 AM
OH my gosh, I am so glad someone posted on this gorgeous car!!
I can't wait to see these on the road.. err.. in my parents driveway. I would love my mom to get one. She had a 69 when she was younger.
I loooove the new retro-styling that's coming out lately (with the exception of some - PT yuck!)
I love classics.
I can just hear whiny girls now though saying "it looks so old.. eew" or "it's a boys car now". Oh gosh. Anyone who doesn't appreciate true american badass classic beasts just doesn't have a clue. [;)]
Them whiny girls/guys (who mommy and daddy buy them new cars) can keep their girly rides. I will take one of these anydays. Again, I would love to buy my mother one (and my dad an old 64 split-window vette like he used to have as well)
Here are some pics I found from Motor Trend, I think. I get Motor Trend so I have been reading/seeing this car forever now.... Finally, the time is ALMOST here!
Look at the back on this... and that interior.... and the roof... uhhhhhhhhh!!!
Hopefully, the price won't be too outrageous.
11-01-2003, 12:53 AM
Uhhhh..... looooove this.
Sure there are other cars that are nicer.... of course.... but this is really gonna be a great Mustang. I hope it does well.
11-01-2003, 01:07 AM
Hey!! what you talking about there are cars nicer???? It is beutiful, it is american. Instant classic!! V-8... rear wheel drive.. nothing better!!
11-01-2003, 01:25 AM
Um, you know what I meant... riiight??? (ex: porsche for instance)
[confused] [scratch] [hihi]
11-01-2003, 01:51 AM
Oh goodness *drool* I love that concept and I do believe like a few others have said that it's gonna be the 2005 model year. I think it's a big improvement over the current body style. I'm not saying that the current one is ugly.
11-01-2003, 03:05 AM
Ya.. I know what you mean.. but hey.. there is nothing nicer than a mustang!! especially that beuty!! call me all American, but that is all I will buy if I can help it!! Good thing that is where my tastes lie!!
11-01-2003, 05:03 AM
its a toned down GT(40)
11-01-2003, 10:11 AM
I hope the visibility is better than it looks.
11-01-2003, 10:25 AM
"Toned down GT40"??? What in the world are you talking about? The Ford GT is a completely unique car, I don't think they'd put the same engine, even a "toned down" version, in the new Mustang. The are two totally different cars, aimed at different markets.
This car is what I'm waiting for. When I first saw the concept on the cover of Motor Trend, I thought "OMG... what have they done to the Mustang???" BUT, it has grown on me, and I really like it. I just hope that they don't change it so much for production that it looks retarded. It looks really good in the concept pictures, with the huge wheel/tire combination, but it will probably look funny as a base model Mustang with some 16's... hahaha. At least that will be incentive to spring for the GT model. I absolutely can't wait to see this car in person.
Bad thing is, I believe I read somewhere that the whole Mustang lineup will go up in price by $1500 to $2000. I just would hate it if they did to the Mustang what they did to the Thunderbird. They took a good rear wheel drive V8 car that everyone could afford, and turned it into a retro remake that only a few people can afford.
11-01-2003, 12:33 PM
I am with you, Liquid... When I first saw it on my Motor Trend I almost fell over. It was different at first, but quickly grew on me since I love the old classic still.
I certainly hope it's affordable, since I do plan on getting mommy one someday. lol
Look at the GT40 below... mmmm
11-01-2003, 12:41 PM
I read the price for this one is absolutely ridiculous. Gosh, I would love to test drive it someday...
11-01-2003, 12:44 PM
Whaaa?? How does the Mustang concept look like a toned down GT40?
Do I need to wear glasses or what? Cause I don't see the simularities.
11-01-2003, 12:49 PM
I thought the same thing Ash, until I saw the side/door panels. It is SOMEWHAT similar... but I agree, they are both unique cars. Performance wise, I am sure the GT40 blows the mustang away... Ooh I would love to drive em!!!!
I need to gather my MT mags and see some more specs... anyone know any more details? Liquid?
11-01-2003, 12:57 PM
Well Jackie I did a search and found this:
I hope the link works. It has some beautiful pics of it. I think I'm in love....LOL
11-01-2003, 12:57 PM
lateset motor trend has a test drive and details of the GT.... haven't seen much on the mustang lately. I would love to have that GT.. I think it is worth every penny of 150k. At that price I think Ford will loose money on it, as the engeneering costs would be more than the profits of 4500 cars would produce.
11-01-2003, 01:38 PM
Ashley, those were such great pics! I decided to put em all together so we could all see.
Anyone who doesn't like this car or hates the styling, to each their own, but come on.. have some class! [;)]
11-01-2003, 01:40 PM
Oh and I found this.. I haven't gotten the latest MT yet, is this it??
Vanace, I agree, Ford might be getting way over their heads, financially speaking, with the GT40? But it's still so freakin awesome.
11-01-2003, 01:47 PM
yup thats the one... good article. I don't think Ford is building it to make money... but what image capitol it will be!! I think in a few years Fords problems with quality and image will be gone becuase of Mr. Bill Ford.. another car nut. Jaque Nasser was VERY bad for Ford.
11-01-2003, 01:52 PM
Thanks Vanace!! I agree, ford is going places and has come a ways. I wonder how the new 500 will do when that comes out. There is so much competition nowadays, they really can't "half-ass" anything! The new accord looks sweet, I must say. To me, it kinda looks like the back of a mercedes, well, for a quick second!
Gosh, why am I not getting this mag yet?! I moved so maybe it's still at my old place.. grrr...
Its a beautiful car. I got to see it in person at the All Ford Nationals show in Carlisle. And it sounded mean too.
11-01-2003, 02:56 PM
What car exactly Egz? the gt40??
11-01-2003, 02:57 PM
Drivetrain layout Front engine, rear-wheel drive
Engine type 90-degree MOD V-8, cast-iron block, aluminum heads, belt-driven supercharger [wave] with liquid-to-air intercooler
Valve gear DOHC, 4 valves per cylinder
Bore/stroke, in/mm 3.55 x 3.54/90.2 x 90
Displacement, in/mm 280.8 / 4,601
Compression ratio 8.5:1
Horsepower @ rpm 400 @ 6,000 (estimated)
Torque @ rpm 390 @ 3,500
Redline, rpm 6,500
Transmission 6-speed manual (coupe)5-speed automatic (convertible)
Axle ratio 3.55:1
Final-drive ratio 2.24:1
Brakes Brembo 13.8-in vented disc[wiggle]
Wheels (front)(rear) 20 in x 8.5 in aluminum 20 in x 9.5 in aluminum
Tires (front) (rear) 245/40ZR20 BFGoodrich g-force T/A 275/35ZR20 BFGoodrich g-force T/A
Body style 2-door coupe and convertible
Seating capacity 2
Legroom, in 44.0
Shoulder room, in 57.6
Hip room, in 54.9
Headroom, in 37.0
Length, in 182
Width, in 74.7
Height, in 50.8
Fuel capacity, gal 18 [confused]
I wonder how heavy it is.
I had no idea this thing was going to be so badass. This is way different than any GT ever produced. I thought it was just going to be a newer body style with a similar engine. I'm suprised it is going to have Brembos. I wonder if it will have a stiff suspension also. This thing is gonna be hella mean. Its like a Cobra except its a GT. I bet it will hang with an '03 Cobra. The back of the car looks wicked. I'm not a Mustang guy but I might have to change my mind in 2005.
11-01-2003, 03:15 PM
Yeah baby!!! Whoooo hooooooo
I saw the stats too but didn't put em up.
I am sure you will change your mind, Infra!!! [;)]
Originally posted by jrzx3
What car exactly Egz? the gt40??
Both actually. The Mustang concept, and the GT. Also the 427 was also very nice looking.
Some pics of those cars are in here: http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290002623
11-01-2003, 07:45 PM
11-02-2003, 01:15 AM
wow i like how ppl argue against me amongst themselves when im gone, guess what, its a toned down GT40 they have the same style patterns, both use older styling and add new styling to them, look at the interiors, yes if you look at them seperately they seem completely differnt, but you ppl need to look at the big picture, hell compare a focus and a taurus, if you pick a sedan focus and a current taurus, the focus looks like a smaller version of the taurus, look at the truck and SUV lines...they are all fords, and cars closest in class have simialar things about them, the GT is cheap, compare it to the cars in its class, i think it was AUTOMOBILE magazine that did this last month, guess what, the GT is cheaper, faster, gets better gas mileage and handles better than the lil V8 Lambo and the ferrari (i think it was the 360 not sure) so how is it overpriced? its a fn supercar, take the new mustang and add full race prep and balls and youve got a GT(40) and i call it "GT(40)" because i dont like calling it a GT, everyone thinks of, guess what, a MUSTANG when you say that
11-02-2003, 03:50 AM
well mofocus.. it isn't even close to a mustang other than it has 4 wheels and is built by ford. There the similarity about ends. the mustang is front engine rear wheel drive. The GT ( I will call it a GT because Ford named it GT.. just like Ford named the taurus the taurus..is rear engine and rear wheel drive. The Ford GT is a totally different car, and they don't even claim to make it a copy of a GT40 even though it was the basis of the project. It is 13 inches longer, and has other acomadations to make it streetable. To compare it to a mustang is just plain wrong. They are not similar in almost all respects. You are right.. the GT is a supercar. And it will hold it's own to most anything the world will throw at it. Bravo Ford for finally having the guts to produce a car that is so totally apealing
11-02-2003, 12:19 PM
Lets quit calling it a GT. There's more than one Ford car that can be considered a GT. Theres the 'stang, The GT40, and the GT90.
Does anyone know how much the new Mustang GT will weigh?
11-02-2003, 12:42 PM
How can you quit calling it a GT??? That's what Ford named it! They dropped the "40", it's no longer called a "GT40", because it is no longer only 40 inches tall (and those of you who are really into this car, know that's what the "40" part was for). It's simply the Ford GT. That's the official name Ford has given the car. End of story. That would be like saying that you can no longer call the Taurus a Taurus, or a Focus a Focus.
The Mustang "GT" is a trim level. You don't call the Mustang GT just a "GT". As vanace said, the Mustang GT and the Ford GT aren't even closely similar, except that they are both cars with four wheels and an engine. The Mustang GT differs from the base Mustang, or the Bullitt Mustang or the Mach 1 or the Cobra. They are simply all trim and performance packages. They are all still Mustangs. The Mustang GT has been around WAY longer than the Ford GT. Different cars, plain and simple. No relation at all.
Now, back on topic. Here is everything you wanted to know about the production version of the new Mustang:
2005 Mustang (http://bradbarnett.net/mustangs/concept/s197/)
I want I want I want I want I want I want I want [pray]
11-02-2003, 01:10 PM
Differences between Concept & Production Models
The word is that the production 2005 Mustang looks very similar to the concept cars with the following exceptions: There will be no hood scoops on the V-6 or GT models. The 2006 Cobra may get functional hood scoops. The production version will seat four. The side scoop won't be a scoop at all; it will be a scallop, and fully integrated into the side stamping. The roof will be standard stamped steel--no glass. The quarter panel will have glass instead of body colored insert--rear visibility would've been awful. The convertible won't get the rollbar, and the windshield will be taller. The taillights won't be as wide, and they will have a tri-cell design like 1999-2004 taillights. They will flash sequentially. The concept cars have 20" wheels, but these will only be offered on Cobras. The base model will have 16" wheels and GTs will have 18" wheels. The fuel door won't be on the back like on the concepts, but there will be a Mustang logo there. The fuel door will be on the side, and it won't be aluminum alloy.
The superchargers are not going to be on the GT. I am no longer excited.
11-02-2003, 01:18 PM
There was never a supercharger on the Mustang GT, anyway.
It only came on the Cobra.
11-02-2003, 03:48 PM
Well I'm excited cuz I am getting the cobra!!!
11-02-2003, 03:49 PM
Ah yes, the GT90. I REALLY liked that car. I thought it was a much better idea than the current GT. Took the basic style, purpose, and spirit of the classic GT40, but modified into a modern car. That thing was so cool - I saw it at the SF Auto Show a few years back and hung around that display for awhile. From what I remember they did have some development issues with the engine though, as it was essentially a couple of Ford engines spliced together. The "new" GT is too much like the original; yes, the original was and is very cool, but how imaginative is it to just rehash one of the greatest cars of all time? That's why the idea of updating the car into a "GT90" seemed much better to me. Oh well.
As for what the new Mustang will be like - once again, I refer you to the pictures I posted on page 1. Those are development cars out on testing. If you read Infra3sv's description of the new Mustang's supposed appearance, and then look at those pics, they seem to correspond to me. I'm still excited about it, though. It takes the proven mechanical aspects of the current Mustang and gives it a much better-looking exterior and (hopefully) an interior that is a lot less cheap.
Originally posted by LiquidGrayZX5
How can you quit calling it a GT??? That's what Ford named it! They dropped the "40", it's no longer called a "GT40", because it is no longer only 40 inches tall (and those of you who are really into this car, know that's what the "40" part was for). It's simply the Ford GT.
Well, while its no longer 40 inches tall, the reason they renamed it was because of lisencing issues. Ford never copyrighted "GT-40" back when it came out. Later, an aftermarket company that produces parts for the GT-40 acquired the name. I think Ford came to them to re-aquire it, but they wanted too much money for it. So, Ford just decided to renamed.
11-03-2003, 12:31 AM
the new one was called GT40 for a long period of time till it got really close to the release dates, and Vanace those have to be the most ignorant comments iv seen here, apparenlty you are all arguing for the sake of arguing, wow i see the forum is right back to craptacular..... http://www.ford-gt.com/ http://www.ford-gt.com/gt/reborn.html the car also no longer has the 7.0 the 40 had in it now has a 5.4 w/ n eatonn SC on it, hmm where have i seen one of those b4?
"The Ford GT is driven by an all-new, mid-engined powertrain producing 500 horsepower and 500 foot-pounds of torque. The engine architecture comes from Ford’s MOD engine family, which includes performance powertrains like the 390-horsepower 4.6-liter DOHC supercharged V-8 in the SVT Mustang Cobra and the 380-horsepower 5.4-liter SOHC supercharged V-8 in the SVT F-150 Lightning"
"The Ford GT engine features an all-new, aluminum block fitted with high-flow, four-valve cylinder heads and dual overhead camshafts. To bear the stresses necessary to produce 500 horsepower, a forged-steel crankshaft, shot-peened H-beam connecting rods and forged aluminum pistons are used. “In total, 85 percent of the reciprocating parts are unique to the Ford GT,” says Hill. "
ok sounds like im going the other way right? wrong
"The Tungsten Silver coupe and the Redline Red Metallic convertible are unmistakingly Mustang and thoroughly modern. Defining classic design cues aren’t amiss in these concepts which feature C-scoops in the sides, three-element tail lamps and the galloping pony in the center of the grille. The amply satisfying appearance of the concepts are balanced by the gritty 13.8-inch vented Brembo® disc brakes and the supercharged 400-horsepower Modular 4.6-liter V-8."
hmm mustang 4.6 and supercharged putting out 400 ponies
GT 5.4 supercharged and putting out 500 ponies
theres also the fact that i was basiclly reffering to in the begiinng is the styling techniques........they both use the modern/retro techniques to make the car appear both at once and yet completely modern as possible
kinna funny they are coming out around the same time also, both use similar engine types, both have similar breaking systems, similar styling, similar interior, and yes the GT is midengine, faster, and so much more, the mustang is a toned down version, the avg buer of a mustang cant afford the luxurys of the GT or want that much race prep for the daily drive...........need i go further?
11-03-2003, 07:35 AM
Vanace those have to be the most ignorant comments iv seen here
[pray] yes oh knower of all... [pray] [pray] I should have known better that to match wits with you. If you take your list of both cars specs, and you then come to the conclusion that they are the same basic car, then go for it. I do beleive from the rest of the comments on this thread, you are in the minority with that thought. But hey.. if it floats your boat, then more power to you. We all have opinions
11-03-2003, 04:20 PM
haha vanace, i never said they were the same basic car, i said the new mustang is a toned down GT, anmd i see i have proven that, i then gave a further example, the focus sedan is a toned down taurus,thoguh on that note i was reffering mroe to the exteriro styling, ill show you a pic lemme see what i can find
11-03-2003, 04:38 PM
BTW, if anyone is interested in a recent look at the GT, including a test drive, here is a link to Edmunds.com:
11-03-2003, 04:49 PM
Originally posted by SVT4ME
BTW, if anyone is interested in a recent look at the GT, including a test drive, here is a link to Edmunds.com:
Nice car but at (the GT's pricing has yet to be revealed, but think $135,000 to $150,000),
I will have to pass...[:(]
11-03-2003, 05:03 PM
I'm loving it...
I had a 67 notchback when I was 16
and a 68 fastback when I was 18, so I think this thing is beeeyoooteeeful.... I wish I had the dough.
11-03-2003, 05:06 PM
yeah fast and notchback is the way to go, not to fond of the mustang hatchbacks, loks wise i mean
Top Gear Review on Ford GT; right-click, save (http://homepage.mac.com/fluffy/.Public/TopGear_GT40.wmv)
11-03-2003, 08:09 PM
Egz, that was awesome. While were on the subject of Ford's cars we'll never have http://formen.ign.com/news/11070.html?fromint=1.
Does anyone know anything about the next Camaro? I can't find anything but I heard it is going to be front wheel drive. [confused]