: new job=new mods
09-22-2004, 07:52 AM
well, I just picked up a second job, and in addition to being a mechanic at a toyota dealership (ford didn't pay well enough), I'm now also a mechanic at BOWL AMERICA!!! WOOOHOOOOO!!!!
this means nitrous kit in about 2 months or so. can't wait to get the giggle gas! [:D]
09-22-2004, 12:02 PM
glad to hear it.....what kit are you looking at?
09-22-2004, 12:10 PM
Originally posted by crazymechanic
[B] a mechanic at a toyota dealership (ford didn't pay well enough)
Just curious.... now that you're a mechanic for Toyota. Are they really better/more reliable cars than our Fords? Is the Toyota quality superior overall? I ask because I heard the Japs like to sweep things under the rug when it comes to recalls/failures before they leak to the general public. Is this true?
09-22-2004, 12:26 PM
Ford does the same with alot of there issues. If a problem is found on a type of vehcile and it isn't determined to be a certain percent or an actual fault it isn't a recall, just a TSB.
My front sturts had to be replaced (They were bent), Ford knows that if the SVTF is drivin hard ie: Autocross the struts bend. Ford replaces them no questions asked as long as you are still covered under the factory warrenty.
09-22-2004, 02:48 PM
yeah, ford has a lot of Field Service Actions, basically, it's not a recall that goes out to everyone. if a customer happens to come in and complain, then the warranty covers it. perfect example, the focus fuel pump. ford released an extended warranty coverage on the fuel pump. we were told that if a customer came in complaining of certain symptoms, we don't do any diagnosis, we just install a new fuel pump (updated part #) and let it go. but we only do it to the cars that come in with a complaint.
as far as toyota quality - the quality is about the same, it's the methods of maintenance. toyota reccommends an A service every 3-5000 miles (oil change, rotate, BG MOA oil additive, and BG 3000mi fuel additive). B service every 15k miles (oil change, rotate, MOA, 3000mi, clean/adjust brakes, air filter, trans fluid drain and fill). C service every 30k (all of the above, plus cooling system service, power steering system service, engine oil system flush, etc.). you get the idea. toyota simply goes crazy on the maintenance, and that keeps the car working right. ford isn't as aggressive in their maintenance program, as a result, their product doesn't last as long. also - a larger percentage of ford buyers tend to rag out their car than toyota buyers - and that really affects the life of the vehicle.
I know a lot of people complain about the problems that the focus has, all the recalls etc. having worked on a few hundred focuses, I can tell you, they're probably the most reliable car ford has on the market right now. most of them have very few problems at all, and then every once in a blue moon, you'll get one that has every problem known to man, but those are few and far between. I can see them being every bit as reliable as a toyota as long as you TAKE PROPER CARE OF YOUR VEHICLE.
that's what it boils down to
I do respect ford a bit more though. toyota does tend to "sweep things under the carpet" like ford does with the focus fuel pump problem. however, ford issues more recalls than those field service actions because they'd rather tell the customer "bring in your car that's not giving you any trouble whenever it's convenient, and we'll make sure that this problem doesn't come up on you in the middle of your family vacation". I respect that. even though you're not necessarily having the problem, they'll perform the repair to make sure that if it were to come up on your vehicle, you wouldn't be inconvenienced by it. they'll eliminate the problem before it inconveniences you.
09-22-2004, 02:48 PM
oh, not sure which kit I'm gonna get, I'm looking at NOS and NX, but I want a lot of feedback from people who have them before I get the kit
09-22-2004, 04:31 PM
hey wow, another toyo tech, i don't feel so out of place now :)
unusual how your service plans r different then ours...
and about reliability i rarely see a camry make it passed 40k without replacing the tank bypass vsv, iac, or a/f sensor on the 5s-fe's...if not all three...toyota doesn't have recalls rarely, they have "campeigns" ..lol, cept unless quite serious like camry has its airbag recall, highlander has its child safety lock recall... i truthfully see ford's as being much more reliable, but as for lasting as long as a toyota...that i don't see. :P
09-22-2004, 08:49 PM
crazymechanic: i've heard great reviews about venom.
I want their setup with the 12oz nitrous tank.
small and discrete enough to hide under a seat.
09-22-2004, 10:12 PM
I'm not too worried about hiding the bottle, I can just put it in a bag, and bolt it to the floor in the back seat, cover the holes with a floormat when I don't have the bottle with me. I'm trying to hide the lines going to the manifold, so I don't want any of those huge nozzles sticking up, I want to try to plumb the lines underneath the manifold, hide the solenoids up under the cowl panels, and then any lines that are visible I'll cover with cable jacket and electrical tape. a 12 oz tank wouldn't be practical because I'd have to refill it after every run.
09-23-2004, 01:11 AM
nice man... do it up for sure!!!!!