would two dogs (boxer and medium size 'mutt') plus three suitcases, and the dog's stuff fit in the back of a hatchback?

thats going to be tight....

i guess if you packed right..

do the seats lay down? if so wouldn't that add a little room?

im guessing u dnt have the hatch, yes it would add substantial amount....you can lift the rear seat push it towards the front, and then push foward the back of the rear seat and it lays almost flat

well we are car searching and we have a 2010 focus, and a chevy 1500, neither of them can really get us across 4 states with 2 dogs and all our stuff. So we are droppin the truck and looking for a hatchback or something that can get us back and forth and good on gas.

sucks youve got to drop the truck but hey a Hatch is the next best thing..

once you get the hatch..join the nation

then you'll love a ZX5 its a four door hatch, very roomy....a ZX3 is awesome too but im guessing 4 doors will help you out !!

i agree the Zx5 would be best...

thanks you get a rep point because your awesome

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=295989365&dealer_id=74790&car_year=2002&doors=&systime=&model=FOCUS&search_lang=en&only_photo=1&start_year=1981&body_style=HATCH&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&search_type=both&distance=100&min_price=&drive=&rdm=1299811332164&marketZipError=false&advanced=y&fuel=&keywords_display=&sownerid=574924&lastBeginningStartYear=1981&end_year=2012&make3=CHEV&showZipError=n&make2=MAZDA&certified=&engine=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&body_code=4&transmission=&default_sort=distance&max_mileage=&model3=MALI&address=43747&color=&sort_type=distance&model2=MAZDA3&max_price=7000&awsp=false&make=FORD&seller_type=d&num_records=25&cardist=56&standard=false&rdpage=thumb

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=u&car_id=295422090&dealer_id=49573090&car_year=2002&doors=&systime=&position=top&model=FOCUS&search_lang=en&start_year=1981&body_style=HATCH&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&search_type=both&distance=200&min_price=&drive=&rdm=1299810979931&marketZipError=false&advanced=y&fuel=&keywords_display=&sownerid=574924&lastBeginningStartYear=1981&end_year=2012&make3=&showZipError=n&make2=MAZDA&certified=&engine=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&body_code=4&transmission=&default_sort=mileageASC&max_mileage=&address=43747&color=&sort_type=distance&model2=MAZDA3&max_price=7000&awsp=false&make=FORD&seller_type=d&num_records=25&cardist=61&standard=false

what do you guys think of these two?

I don't know... that sounds like it's pushing it. Let me get this straight: 2 medium dogs, 3 suitcases, and dog stuff. What constitutes "dog stuff" here? 2 carrier cages? Large bag of dog food? Or a duffle bag of smaller things? The Focus wagon might be a more practical solution.

Although the hatchback is roomy I can't picture it lugging anything more than 2 medium dogs and 2 suitcases. And that's barely giving the poor dogs any room to move around in the back. Honestly you're better off seeing the car in person once they become available, since some technical measurements can be misleading.

The grey one looks better... it just looks like it was taking care of better

get a wagon it will be tight with all that and a hatch

Well we have looked for two months and the only wagon around where we are has like 150K miles and they are asking almost $7,000 or we could get a mini-van. no thats not a good idea.


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I assuming that the seats lay down, So 3 suitcase could fit for sure, turns out our 'mutt' isn't going to be with us any longer, (we found him and the owners stopped by this morning and said it is their's, they had pics and what not) So luggage, a boxer and a duffle bag of her stuff should fit (with the seats laid down) comfy right?

coming back from school, i have two large rubbermaids, a mongoose bike, an isolating fan, one with a stand, 2 desktops, a monitor, a macbook, and a few other things in my zx3, all i had sitting in the front seat was my macbook... i folded the seats down. but i would say that if you take the hatch cover off you should be fine with a zx3... but getting the dog in and out... i would go with a zx5.

this isnt so bad
http://kansascity.craigslist.org/ctd/2216209461.html

http://springfield.craigslist.org/ctd/2236957236.html

or that

yeah I would go with a zx5... its sooo hard to look at regular hieght foci... they are soo tall..

but I would go with one from K-city ....much better deal

yeah I would go with a zx5... its sooo hard to look at regular hieght foci... they are soo tall..

but I would go with one from K-city ....much better deal

mine is still stock height... lol so its not that hard for me lol

heck we might get a wagon and a ZX5 just because now lol

i know it's not near you... but http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/ctd/2245194447.html

yeah, you better get a wagon, so you have the dogs in the back and your stuff in the back seat.

If you fold the seats flat, I don't see this being a problem. I had two dogs (one small, one medium),two carriers (one small, one medium), two dog beds, two bags of food, one large suit case and two medium size suit cases in my three door with the seats folded flat. I managed to fit all of the stuff in the hatch area and the dogs were able to relax in their beds on the seat area. The dogs are an Italian Greyhound and a African Basenji.

i know it's not near you... but http://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/ctd/2245194447.html

If it comes too it we might drive out there, its closer than some other places. We just never looked around that area, because it just seems like long drive. thanks

Just FYI: The rear seats on my 07 (leather) do not fold flat at all. don't know about cloth. There is no provision to tie them down either. However, there really comfy seats.

Just FYI: The rear seats on my 07 (leather) do not fold flat at all. don't know about cloth. There is no provision to tie them down either. However, there really comfy seats.

You sure about that? Have you tried wedging your fingers between the back and bottom of the rear cushions to see if the back seats flip forward? Here (http://www.focushacks.com/?modid=65&ht=Rear%20Seat%20Trick:%20Cargo%20Mode) are some step-by-step instructions.

Are you saying that the rear seat bottoms are hinged?

Are you saying that the rear seat bottoms are hinged?

Yep. I'm not 100% positive that '05-'07 models have this feature too. But it was definitely present in the earlier '00-'04 models.

Re not knowing rear bench seat folds foward.......car manuals are an amazing source of information regarding the car you own. It appears many car owners miss many features their vehicle comes equipped with, just because.

are you a master at tetris? if so yes.

Yep. I'm not 100% positive that '05-'07 models have this feature too. But it was definitely present in the earlier '00-'04 models.

http://cdn2-b.examiner.com/sites/default/files/styles/image_full_width/hash/a5/90/a590af8ff8d6cb90aa9b74c4a5f311b7.jpg

i know its an older focus... but they all should be able to do it

Posted via FF Mobile One thing Im worried about here. If you do this I would NOT fold the seats down. You are endangering the safety of your dog more so then you already are. Unless you plan on fabricating a wall, how you going to stop that luggage and stuff from sliding around into her or her climbing all over it? Or if you get into and accident all that stuff is not gonna sit tight. Theres plenty of room without the seats folded. Keep them up, put gear in the hatch part and leave the pup in the rear passanger seats. Oh and out of the two cars you posted Id get the blue one, a lot less miles. Although, I feel almost 5k is alittle much for a 2002 with over 70k.

car manuals are an amazing source of information regarding the car you own. It appears many car owners miss many features their vehicle comes equipped with, just because.


Ohhh! I see now! I wish I could post up the relevant pages from the manual. 1: It does not tell you HOW to accomplish folding the rear seat forward. 2: Instructions (such as they are) are under "Sedan". But mostly I ignored them as they seem to be written for a different car and not applicable.
Still don't see how the cushion is going to clear the rear cup holder though.
Thanks! [cheers]

Add >> I figured it out. My manual (labled as "2007 Focus Owners Manual" from Ford) contains several sections/instructions that were written for the 08+ models, details features never available in 07.

Posted via FF Mobile One thing Im worried about here. If you do this I would NOT fold the seats down. You are endangering the safety of your dog more so then you already are. Unless you plan on fabricating a wall, how you going to stop that luggage and stuff from sliding around into her or her climbing all over it? Or if you get into and accident all that stuff is not gonna sit tight. Theres plenty of room without the seats folded. Keep them up, put gear in the hatch part and leave the pup in the rear passanger seats. Oh and out of the two cars you posted Id get the blue one, a lot less miles. Although, I feel almost 5k is alittle much for a 2002 with over 70k.



well she sleeps the entire way, (cept when she has to go) so she doesn't move that much. Then we could bungee the stuff down, but we would probably leave the seats up if we could. I just want to know how much room we have so if we need to move we could pack this one up, my focus, and then borrow a family members truck for beds and what not.

i say go with a wagon. There is a ton more room with the seats up compared to a zx5. my dad has used one as a truck for 9 years and hasn't really had any trouble fitting anything in it lol. there has to be at least a foot or two more than a zx3 with the seats up on both. and they aren't really any harder to find than a hatch

I think it will will all fit unless your suitcases are huge.

welp as much good info that I was given it was for nothing, we ended up getting a dodge caliber SXT. Thanks FF