...because I don't have one. The focus is bone stock and this morning the CEL lit up. I'm taking it to blue oval tomorrow and I was wondering what to expect. There are no apparant problems except the light... did this happen to anyone else (without an orp)?

Thats a broad question...could be a number of things man....you never know...do you know what code it is throwing, thats a good place to start.

Can I find out without using a obd2 reader or something like that?
edit\\ I did the check from focus hacks and everything seemed normal, no dtc codes thrown

Well, Autozone should run the obd2 scan for free...at least they are still doing it around here.

These cars are crap and Ford doesn't stand behind this product at all. Dealerships only want to charge you to fix the stuff that should have been on TSB. We all know the problems and so does Ford. But instead of fixing the issues they just want to take your money hince no TSB's. Clutch is bad, faulty TPS, CEL problems with bone stock cars, and trust me they are going to try and blame it on something not covered under warranty. Took mine in today because it has been revving above 3000rpms all the time. They said there was a vacuum leak cause by my FC throttle body. They could fix it but not under warranty. I came home and checked to see if there was any leakage around the throttle body and there wasn't. Service tech lied and said when he pushed down on the throttle body the revving stopped. I tried this at home and the car still revved. People on here will say that's what happens when you mod your car. I say bullshit. It's not FI and if the ECU on the SVTF is so damn smart it should be able to adjust to the minor increase in air.

Well, maybe you dont know a lot about how this stuff works. Its not bullshit, Ford and SVT spent a lot of time researching every little thing on this car and how it ties all together. If you start changing things up its easy for them to blame the problems on mods. It is their right to as well. They dont want to waste time and effort on cars with aftermarket parts that the car was never meant to have on there. That is what you risk when modding you car. Why not just take it back to stock, then take it to a different dealer. It seems all you need is the latest pcm reflash.
BTW, the FC TB hardly increases air flow enough for the computer to make changes to anything.
What do you mean "revs to 3K rpms all the time". When does this happen? At idle? In the morning on cold start up? Or just about every time you come to a stop in N? Try putting your stock TB back on and see if that fixes the problem, if so, then you know where the problem is.

Other people who still have their cars stock are experiencing the same problem. So how is it that I don't know what I am talking about? I have the YRFO reflash and have had it since 2k miles on my car. The TB has been on there for over 9,000 miles without any problems (I have 11,000 miles on the car). It's not the mods that are causing the problems. Just read some of the posts from people with stock cars and you'll see they have the same issues. Also, if the FC TB doesn't add that much additional air and there are no vacuum leaks from any of the mods how does that exonerate ford from fixing the problem? They have to prove that the mod was causing the problem...................

Okay can we all calm down a bit, please.

First off, my 03 SVTF does still rev and yes it's a ECU issue, modded or not. It's a normal thing that occurs on the SVTF. You all with a SVTF should expect a surge in rpms on a cold start crank, once the cat is heated the computer will drop the rpms. It's normal, I don't know a SVTF one that don't have the rev or surge issue with rpm's, esp a 02 or 03 SVTF.

Look I can understand the anger, I've been to a dealer that blamed my problems on my mods as well. Then when put back stock, they scratched their heads, cause guess what, they could not figure out the problem. A simple YRF0 flash fixed everything, and we all know it takes a good many cold start runs for a new ecu reflash to level out.

Yeah some of the things on a SVTF may be BS as some of ya'll may call it, but I still love my car. [;)]

I am just bothered that some people on here try to act like a few simple mods have caused all the problems. I have the YRFO but I guess I will have them reflash it again. Thanks for your post. Like I said, I was just venting from the frustation of having to deal with the dealer.

Okay, so got it serviced and picked it up yestarday. They fixed some wierd noises and the CEL wasn't on anymore. However today I take it out and notice the battery light poping on/off but I took it in for a reflash a while ago (I'm not sure but I think I was coasting in N). So after I got back home, I poped the hood open took off the batery cover then put it back on. 5 minutes later I start the car and the CEL is back on again...

Well, if your battery light was coming on and off it means the system was not charging correctly. Take it back, get your free loaner car, and tell them about the battery light. They will see the cel for themselves. What was the cel for in the first place?

Originally posted by hbm1
Other people who still have their cars stock are experiencing the same problem. So how is it that I don't know what I am talking about? I have the YRFO reflash and have had it since 2k miles on my car. The TB has been on there for over 9,000 miles without any problems (I have 11,000 miles on the car). It's not the mods that are causing the problems. Just read some of the posts from people with stock cars and you'll see they have the same issues. Also, if the FC TB doesn't add that much additional air and there are no vacuum leaks from any of the mods how does that exonerate ford from fixing the problem? They have to prove that the mod was causing the problem...................
Well, actually YOU have to prove that it was the mod that was not causing the problem if you where to ever REALLY take up an issue with Ford. You are changing things on the cars they made that where never meant to be there. How hard is that to understand...look at my mods, do I bitch and complain when Ford wont do something for me, and yes I started with bolt ons just like you, but I never went in expecting anything to be done under warranty unless I had facts as to why the mod was not causing the problem. You are just blowing hot air, back up that talk with fact, then complain when they wont fix it, otherwise get over it till you know more about how your car works...and this crap...well look at everyone elses problems doesnt cut it...try telling that to a Ford dealer and see what happens.

All the original parts are back on the car and it is still having the same problems. I am going to take it to a different dealer and see what they say. I will let you know what the exact problem(s) was (were) and I guarantee that it was a ford quality issue. I will reiterate once again if someone who has a stock car is having the same problems then it wasn't the mods causing the issue in the first place. I do know how the car works and I know it wasn't the mods causing the problem. So you get over it and realize that that's probably why ford is dropping the SVTF because of all the well documented problems. Those are the facts and now you know.....................

LoL...thats great...actually they dropped the svtf because of the horrible amount of sells. Im just telling it from Fords end. I know that a lot of time mods are NOT the cause of problems, Im just saying how easy it is for them to point the finger because most people cant and wont prove their case. Im sure a lot of people are running around on RLA6 still (hell maybe even RLA2), and just dont know what to do. Keep in mind also that probably way more than half of svt owners never even get on the boards, so just because you read it on the boards doesnt mean much, just the fact that most people start finding boards in the first place because they are having problems, thats why it appears so many have problems, because most are just searching for answers in the first place. No big deal really, just want every one to be educated on the process...you can be in the right, but you have to be able to prove it to the dealer when dealing with mods.

I have the YRFO. Like I said in some other posts I am just venting. You are probably right about people searching for these forums when they have problems. I found the post before I even had problems though. I guess I have picked up on the frustration of people without mods also getting the shaft. Oh well...........

Yeah, no big deal really man...we are all enthusiasts, we wouldnt have bought the svt if we werent. No hard feelings I hope. I have been frustrated many times by the dealer...especially when I have to give them the tsb number so I can get the damn reflash. It might help also to try around at different dealers. I have been to probably 13 different dealers between Houston and Dallas and I finally came across one that was "mod friendly" They never jumped to a conclusions just because of mods. They always seek out what the real problem is. If it was not mod related, no charge, if it was they showed me step by step how it was related to the mod. I even got an altenator replaced under warranty with the jrsc installed...dont think I could get much done now though..LoL. If anyone is in the DFW area, check out Don Davis Ford in Arlington, talk to Vince the service writer. Good luck solving your problem.

the first cel was for a battery and they changed it...

Probably in the charging system somewhere...wouldnt be the first bad altenator Ive heard of. Maybe just a loose connection some where...but more often Ive heard of altenators going bad.

It was a faulty TPS. PCM kept thinking the thottle was open when it wasn't. But the Ford dealer that I am working with also chnged the throttle body just in case it was causing the problem. Great service compared to my other dealer. The new dealer is out in the sticks and I know they know more than the city slicker ford techs now.

What's a TPS?
Well, it's not the alternator or the battery, because they've been replaced last week. Just called today and they said that they ordered some more parts because the CEL is still on... Any more ideas? F150s can spin wheels a lot :) I wonder if the dealer will be pissed if I return it without the thread on the tires...

Throttle position sensor (TPS), spin those F-150 tires.