I've been trying to find info on the aerocharger stage 1 kit, the one that used a dual ball bearing ceramic turbo.

Their website is down (aerocharger), has anyone had experience with this kit and actually put it on their car? Looks like a decent design, any flaws?

Help! [:D]

Mofocus has the stage 3 kit.

one on ebay

the stage 1 is about like the JRSC as far as power, its also the non upgradeable one

Didn't they stop making those?

Shalom...

yes, there are still some used kits lingering around

True....when is yours gonna be completed Greg?

Shalom...

may be willing to get rid of mine, my set up is in my sig. send me a PM if u wana talk

anthony

Originally posted by vassili95
True....when is yours gonna be completed Greg?

Shalom...

god willing, b4 end of October, and maybe sooner, the closer i get to being done, the more bills i have[rolleyes]

Originally posted by mofocus
... the closer i get to being done...

Installing the turbo system is just the beginning [:D]

It only costs more from there.[;)]

yaaaay thanks for telling me :P

Anyone got some LOW DOWN *real* info on Aerocharger? Their website is <down> Need some info on their products and stage kits...

what do you want to know? the sites down and i dont think its coming back up

Do you think it would impossible to put a Stage 1 zetec kit on a svt focus if I swapped out to focus long tubes with the aerocharger kit bolted on it...

Im worried about pipes to throttle body (since totally different) and pipes to - maf - air filter.

=///

if you worked out the exhaust, the maine thing would be the compressor outlet to TB tubes, if theres enough room the MAF to inlet should work

EDIT im not sure on clearance of the turbo itself though, as i think even some of the ZETECs had clearance issues

think i should invest in the stage 1 kit and hope for best? Im unsure on how im going to get the throttle body bracket w/5th injector on my svt throttle body =//

Thanks for reply mofocus

skip the 5th injector, just get some good tuning ;)

Could you explain how the 5th injector works?

Do you think the pipe would be such a diff from zx3 - svt that this whole proj wouldnt be worth it/?

Originally posted by SVT ewx ca
Could you explain how the 5th injector works?

Not very well.

It is a 38 Pound per Hour injector that mounts in the intake plenum just before the TB.

Fuel is pulled off the end of the fuel rail and routed by hose to the 5th injector.

A small control module fires the injector. It also both intercepts and reads the MAF signal. It starts firing the 5th injector at about 4.7 volts IIRCC, and also clamps the MAF voltage signal going to the ECU at about 4.9 volts to prevent the OEM MAF from saturating (peggging out) which would throw the computer into "failed MAF mode" programming.

The controller requires ground and keyed 12V of course, but there is also an additional wire that gets hooked up into the harness on the firewall passenger side. No one has ever determined the function of it as far as I know. I think it provides the controller with a fire signal for a/the OEM injector(s), but that is just a guess.

In any case the system typically runs WAY rich in the midrange, then about right on top if the user stays at the recommended boost range (about 8-9 PSI) without a bunch of additional mods that increase air flow through the engine.

The biggest problem though is you must still pull timing or you will very likely blow your engine on pump gas as you are now operating at maybe 140% load with timing values intended for never exceeding 100% load.

I had reasonable results with the 5th injector at about 8 PSI and a J&S Safeguard to pull timing with a boost reference. But that was before the option of doing things correctly existed. Today I wouldn't think of doing that.

That was a well explaination to me, thank you. But do you really think its that volatle as to blow up your engine? Or would it be relativly safe on a turbo kit?

The owner of it right now, said hes had no problems , and would explain how to install the circutry.
He also said he used a 65mm throttle body for his focus aerocharger stg 1 kit and had no problems with the fitment on a larger tb...


Thoughts?!

i have a 5th injector set up with everything need in the box, i want to get rid of it, i have never used it but i had plans on using it untill i found a better way, i got it slightly used from a guy who had no use for it, i will let it go cheap! i realize its a bad tunning solution but will work untill u get ur real tune done. PM me if u are interested.

anthony

Engines were lost with the 5th injector and no timing correction even at fairly moderate boost levels, some weren't. On my 92 octane fuel I could only run about 5 PSI before I was tore up with deto with just the 5th injector. Exact results will depend on specific fuel and ECU code (due to timing variations). If you have a SVT, the higher compression would only make matters that much worse. For the record, I highly recommend against it.

If you go over to Focal Jet you can probably find a full days worth of reading on the SFMS if you like.

There is also potential issues with your SVT's engine management - you have a different MAF sensor that will hit the target voltage points I mentioned earlier at higher airflows than the non-SVT. You should expect to be operating on the OEM injectors longer before the 5th kicks would kick. Exact implications ..... ???

Honestly with a SVT and its forged rods, more free breathing, and higher rev potential, I would be thinking about a pump that is a little more ambitious than the relatively small Aerocharger.

yeah the stage 1 wouldnt be worth it i dont think

stage 3 baby

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