: why no nitrous kit install how-to's?


focusmaniaczx3
06-13-2010, 10:49 AM
ya know ive been a member to this site for awhile and i have not once seen a good step by step detailed how to with pictures of any basic nitrous installation. i think its time for someone to take the reigns and make one unless its already been done and i just missed it and cant find it with the search. if none turn up i might try to do my own how to on a zex wet kit install with MSD rpm window switch and WOT switch and later on the A/F cut off switch and fuel pressure shut down switch.
anyhow im just wondering if there are any and if not ill be sure to document the install very well and post it up here. ive always wanted to write up a how to to get put into the archives.

roosterst
06-13-2010, 11:12 AM
There's a brand new site out called Google. You should check it out sometime. [hihi]

http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en

Here's one. [thumb]

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.com/tech/0308mm_focusweb/index.html

2wheeladict
06-13-2010, 11:30 AM
id probabaly say theres no writeup here due to liability. someone does a writeup, someone else follows it and blows up their car or injures themselves, they may come back on the person and say they gave bad info.

justalilslow
06-13-2010, 11:37 AM
Imo, their shouldn't be one. If people have no idea how to even wire it up and run the lines, they shouldn't be messing around with nitrous.

2wheeladict
06-13-2010, 11:50 AM
this is true also

pitchedblack04
06-13-2010, 12:43 PM
Well if you wanna go into that then there should be no write ups at all. Esp ones that deal with messing with the engine. I mean a turbo write up is no different as far as the engine or a person getting hurt. You install a turbo and dont tune it properly or at all and your engine goes boom.

horsePOOGAS
06-13-2010, 12:49 PM
^^exactly. people read at there own risk and MOD there car at there own risk... I love write ups, without them I still wouldnt be driving my car lol

KRYPTO
06-13-2010, 01:05 PM
I just installed N2O in my car, and coulda used a how to. I did it without much trouble and would do a how to, but I have the battery in the trunk and some other stuff moved around under the hood.

_spyder
06-13-2010, 03:52 PM
Someone should make a nice detailed one for me because I will be installing my NX kit with remote bottle opener, bottle warmer, etc this upcoming Saturday [thumb]

focusmaniaczx3
06-14-2010, 11:28 AM
There's a brand new site out called Google. You should check it out sometime. [hihi]

http://www.google.com/webhp?hl=en

Here's one. [thumb]

http://www.musclemustangfastfords.com/tech/0308mm_focusweb/index.html
i was talking about write ups that people have done on THIS forum. besides, the one in that magazine article is for a dry system which is extremely dangerous to use especially with such a high shot. a 75 dry shot is gonna push the injectors farther than they can go IMO. but whatever. a wet system is slightly more complicated to install also.
id probabaly say theres no writeup here due to liability. someone does a writeup, someone else follows it and blows up their car or injures themselves, they may come back on the person and say they gave bad info.
screw that. that is what disclaimers are for. every single person modifies their car at their own risk and if they dont know what they are doing then they should do one of two things. either take the car to a professional to have it installed or dont mess with it at all. if they choose to follow a write up to install the mod then they are taking a chance. for the most part however the mods of this site are extremely knowledgeable and they wont put a write up into the archive if it has bad info.
Imo, their shouldn't be one. If people have no idea how to even wire it up and run the lines, they shouldn't be messing around with nitrous.
then answer me this. how is a person supposed to learn this stuff in the first place? when i first started modding my focus i struggled to locate and change the throttle body. it was all i could do to change out my header. people dont generally go to school for this stuff and as a matter of fact i dont think there are any classes at the local community college that teach this stuff at all anyway. you have to learn it on your own, and how are you supposed to do that if the information is not out there to be had?
Someone should make a nice detailed one for me because I will be installing my NX kit with remote bottle opener, bottle warmer, etc this upcoming Saturday [thumb]

if a good write up doesnt turn up ill see about creating one in the next 1-3 weeks depending on my work schedule.

justalilslow
06-14-2010, 12:06 PM
then answer me this. how is a person supposed to learn this stuff in the first place? when i first started modding my focus i struggled to locate and change the throttle body. it was all i could do to change out my header. people dont generally go to school for this stuff and as a matter of fact i dont think there are any classes at the local community college that teach this stuff at all anyway. you have to learn it on your own, and how are you supposed to do that if the information is not out there to be had?


The information is out their and easy to get.
Find a good book about automotive principles and theory's and brush up on your electrical. It can do wonders to help see things from a mechanical point of view.

Im self taught, started tearing stuff apart and trying to fix it just for the hell of it. then started working as a mechanic before going to school to learn driveability and emission related performance.

PSUrivie
06-14-2010, 12:35 PM
I'm working on an nitrous build for my 09. Once I start my installation I'm going to write a HOW-TO just due to the fact of dealing with the drive-by-wire system. I will post part numbers, etc for all of the 08+ guys.

_spyder
06-14-2010, 03:05 PM
i was talking about write ups that people have done on THIS forum. besides, the one in that magazine article is for a dry system which is extremely dangerous to use especially with such a high shot. a 75 dry shot is gonna push the injectors farther than they can go IMO. but whatever. a wet system is slightly more complicated to install also.

That article is actually for a wet system, I read it over and it does give some good info. But I still agree that a writeup from someone on this forum with good Focus experience will be a boatload better. If you do write something up, let me know [thumb]

focusmaniaczx3
06-17-2010, 07:28 AM
from a mechanical standpoint i understand exactly how it is supposed to be installed. that is not a problem. i can run all the lines and mount everything where it is supposed to go. wiring on the other hand is where im going to have big time issues. i have never been very good with wiring. if i have a electrical problem i will check the fuses. if that isnt the problem i will immediately bite the bullet and dump the car off for someone else to diagnose and fix. i cannot even begin to describe how much trouble i had wiring up my wideband A/F gauge and then wiring it for analog output for datalogging. and by anyone's standards but my own that should have been a walk in the park that should only take 15 minutes. but for me it was a pain in the ass head scratcher that took 3 hours and a case of beer. if i dont have specific and exact step by step directions in front of me for anything to do with electrical im done for quite simply put lol. the bad thing is that i had the kit in and working at one point last year and had to completely remove it for legal reasons. i really REALLY should have taken lots of pictures or something so i could remember how and where everything went.

and when i read in that article i got about as far as them making a comment about needing to upgrade the fuel pump and injectors if they went any higher than a 75 shot. if you are running a wet system you could run a 200 shot on stock fuel pump and injectors. the engine might not take it but the pump and injectors will be just fine. a wet system pulls the extra fuel needed directly from the fuel rail, where a dry system has to have the extra fuel pumped through the injectors which is why you would be limited unless you upped the injector size. i read that comment and directly assumed they were talking about a dry system. and if they WERE running a wet system and made that comment then i still am not interested in the article because if they had any knowledge about how nitrous works or at least the difference between wet and dry systems they would not have made that comment. so either they installed a dry system and dont have hardly any information i can use for my installation or they are just a couple of retards running their mouths about something they know very little or nothing about in which case i would be very well off to completely disregard anything i read.

on a side note the things i will be having trouble with will be wiring up the MSD rpm window switch to the system, wiring up the electronic WOT switch (supposed to be the deal that wires into the TPS, not the deal where a button gets pushed when you push the throttle to the floor) and doing the electrical wiring up for the nitrous system itself. i should be able to handle the bottle heater lol. if i can get pointers from here on what wires go where then i might be able to handle it by myself at home. otherwise i have a "buddy" that runs a hot rod shop who i might be able to talk into wiring it up for a small price... and by small i mean a case of beer and a $100 bill.