mikebontoft
01-26-2010, 12:42 AM
For the time being it's just research...... but I did get to do a little looking at an H4 engine (standard opposed cylinder, Boxer engine, subaru engine.....whatever you know them by) at work today and it was actually a lot smaller than I thought. The H6 is, well, two more cylinders.....
I think it will fit in my car. I may have to make my own frame reinforcements in the front but really nothing that should be impossible IMO. then as far as I know, most all of the AWD transmissions WILL mate up to the 3.0 H6 engine too. I'll probably have to use the steering rack from an Outback or something, but there are SO DAMN MANY of these things here!
as far as rear subframe goes......I have a few ideas for some custom fabrication, and I could probably just use the subaru's stock coil-over/McPherson rear strut assembly and poke it up to where the shock goes, then find the fuel tank from an AWD Jag or maybe an escape and see if it will fit under the car, and yeah.... there I go.
Subaru rear end:
http://www.invoauto.co.uk/images/Products/Strutbrace/AA0278-1-oncar-lrg.jpg
Suppose I have a few questions though if anyone AT ALL can help me out here.....
Sensor/Gauge cluster wise..... what am I gonna do, can I wire the sensors to read out to my current focus gauges or would it be a lot easier to just put all custom gauges in like those in John's (or whoever owns it now....) ZX408?
I'm pretty sure I can still run dual ecu anyway.... since it's been done, but Just wondering about the sensors that control the functions of the basic and necessary gauges.
is there like some sort of mini tunnel that goes straight down the floor pan? anything? like an indent or something?
and now, for pics of what I want to put in.........(very similar anyway.)
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/91/116487791_full.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/29/116487829_full.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/59/116487859_full.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/82/116487882_full.jpg
Now to be more specific..... these are the measured Dimensions of said engine:
* Across front: 32.25"
* Across body: 29.75"
* Across transmission attachment: 14.75
* Between motor mounts: 14"
* Front to rear: 18"
* Height, sump to intake: 25.5"
I plan on finding the ecu and engine out of a 00-04 (legacy) Outback. These engines don't have all that weird drive-by-wire, AVCS VVT whatever crap in them.... and of course, it will be the EZ30D engine.
and I just pulled the description off of wikipedia cause I'm lazy like that right now
The (Japanese: Subaru EZ series) was introduced in 1996 in the Japanese Domestic Market, in the Subaru Outback, and in 2000 in the United States Domestic Market. It is a flat-six, 24valve, quad cam motor with one intake port per cylinder. It has aluminum blocks and heads. The number of exhaust ports per cylinder varies. It is available in EZ30D and EZ36D variants. The later EZ30D used from 2003-2009 was heavily updated from the early EZ30D used from 1996-2004. All use dual timing chains and coil-on-plug ignition.
* EZ30D: 2999cc DOHC,216hp (161 kW) @6000rpm, 213tq@4400rpm. Bore 89.2mm, Stroke 80mm. Compression 10.7:1. This version uses one exhaust port per head, a cable throttle, variable intake geometry, cast aluminium intake manifold, and has a 6500rpm rev limit. It was only available with an automatic transmission. Found in the 2000-2002 Outback H6 and Legacy Lancaster 6.
I also have a parts guy that's just absolutely amazing at finding anything I need......I think he'll be a big help here since these seem pretty hard to find.
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I think it will fit in my car. I may have to make my own frame reinforcements in the front but really nothing that should be impossible IMO. then as far as I know, most all of the AWD transmissions WILL mate up to the 3.0 H6 engine too. I'll probably have to use the steering rack from an Outback or something, but there are SO DAMN MANY of these things here!
as far as rear subframe goes......I have a few ideas for some custom fabrication, and I could probably just use the subaru's stock coil-over/McPherson rear strut assembly and poke it up to where the shock goes, then find the fuel tank from an AWD Jag or maybe an escape and see if it will fit under the car, and yeah.... there I go.
Subaru rear end:
http://www.invoauto.co.uk/images/Products/Strutbrace/AA0278-1-oncar-lrg.jpg
Suppose I have a few questions though if anyone AT ALL can help me out here.....
Sensor/Gauge cluster wise..... what am I gonna do, can I wire the sensors to read out to my current focus gauges or would it be a lot easier to just put all custom gauges in like those in John's (or whoever owns it now....) ZX408?
I'm pretty sure I can still run dual ecu anyway.... since it's been done, but Just wondering about the sensors that control the functions of the basic and necessary gauges.
is there like some sort of mini tunnel that goes straight down the floor pan? anything? like an indent or something?
and now, for pics of what I want to put in.........(very similar anyway.)
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/91/116487791_full.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/29/116487829_full.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/59/116487859_full.jpg
http://images.trademe.co.nz/photoserver/82/116487882_full.jpg
Now to be more specific..... these are the measured Dimensions of said engine:
* Across front: 32.25"
* Across body: 29.75"
* Across transmission attachment: 14.75
* Between motor mounts: 14"
* Front to rear: 18"
* Height, sump to intake: 25.5"
I plan on finding the ecu and engine out of a 00-04 (legacy) Outback. These engines don't have all that weird drive-by-wire, AVCS VVT whatever crap in them.... and of course, it will be the EZ30D engine.
and I just pulled the description off of wikipedia cause I'm lazy like that right now
The (Japanese: Subaru EZ series) was introduced in 1996 in the Japanese Domestic Market, in the Subaru Outback, and in 2000 in the United States Domestic Market. It is a flat-six, 24valve, quad cam motor with one intake port per cylinder. It has aluminum blocks and heads. The number of exhaust ports per cylinder varies. It is available in EZ30D and EZ36D variants. The later EZ30D used from 2003-2009 was heavily updated from the early EZ30D used from 1996-2004. All use dual timing chains and coil-on-plug ignition.
* EZ30D: 2999cc DOHC,216hp (161 kW) @6000rpm, 213tq@4400rpm. Bore 89.2mm, Stroke 80mm. Compression 10.7:1. This version uses one exhaust port per head, a cable throttle, variable intake geometry, cast aluminium intake manifold, and has a 6500rpm rev limit. It was only available with an automatic transmission. Found in the 2000-2002 Outback H6 and Legacy Lancaster 6.
I also have a parts guy that's just absolutely amazing at finding anything I need......I think he'll be a big help here since these seem pretty hard to find.
[wiggle]