10-08-2009, 09:17 AM
Well I'm planning on going Turbo come spring and I'll be needing a tune. I'm trying to decide what to do.
There is a very good (they've worked with many Foci before) shop about 80 miles away that will tune my car for from what I've heard about $500. Thing is I don't come away with the unit used to tune the car (idk what else to call it), I get the tune on my car and a chip.
My other options from what I can tell are to buy a unit of some type that has the tune loaded onto it or to just get one of the units and tune the car myself.
I have no experience tunning at all (if you can't tell already [idea]). But from what I can tell this would be the cheapest option and a good one because I'd still have the tunning device. But I wouldn't want to do it if there's no chance of me being able to learn enough to do this.
So what do you guys think would be the best option for me? Any input is welcome and sorry if I got anything wrong. [wrenchin]
10-08-2009, 10:23 AM
I can do a remote tune for the ZX3 for 450.00 and 399.00 for the xcal , this will be custom tuning your Turbo Focus and that comes with free pdates as you add more mods or up the boost
The xcal is also a datalogger something that with boost will come in handy
10-08-2009, 10:52 AM
So total would come to 850 for the tune and the xcal? With free updates for any changes I want to make?
10-08-2009, 08:50 PM
No offense to Tom, but what are my other options? Any input on them?
10-08-2009, 10:58 PM
Yes that covers any NA or FI option even if you change tubos , boost settings , built engine
10-08-2009, 11:39 PM
Let me strongly recommend that you go with Tom's remote xCal tune. I recently became one of his customers and have been very satisfied. He sets you up with a base tune, which you load via your xCal handheld device. You then use the datalogging software and feed him data from the ECU by e-mail. He modifies and tweaks the tune from there. When I was running N/A I had an out-of-the-box tune from another tuner. It didn't even get close to the kind of precision and attention that Tom provides to get it done correctly. And going this route you get future upgrades for free with someone who knows the Focus powerplant. No brainer.
10-09-2009, 12:13 AM
Ok, so to get my original tune would Tom need to just know what kind of set up I have going or would he send me the xCal, I'd upload something and send it to him or what?
10-09-2009, 12:30 AM
Tom begins the process by asking you every modification that you've made from stock. He then creates a base tune for you. In my case, he e-mailed me the base tune (because I already owned an xCal device). For those who buy it from him, I don't know if he pre-loads it on the xCal or sends it electronically.
When you get the xCal device, you simply connect it to your OBDII port in the car. With the push of a few buttons, it automatically swaps out the stock tune file, stores it, and loads the new tune.
The xCal also comes with LiveLink software which is a data acquisition program. I had never used anything like it before but it was very easy to use. You plug in your xCal to your vehicle's OBDII port and also plug your xCal into your computer (via USB cable). You tell the software what parameters (PIDs) you want logged. The LiveLink software then acquires data from your car's ECU and plots it (realtime) on a graph. When you're done, you just save the datalog file and e-mail it back to Tom.
When you start getting into the datalogging process you come to appreciate just how complex the tuning process is. That's why a guy like Tom is worth every cent you pay.
Having the xCal is also handy because there are some parameters that you can modify on your own, even without a new tune file (i.e. idle rpms, etc). You can also diagnose and clear "Check Engine" codes.
Hope this helps. It's a great way to go.
10-09-2009, 12:37 AM
Thanks a lot for all the answers man. +1 rep for sure.