yeh its not focus related. but its pretty neat if you ask me. My buddy decied he had this brillant idea to turbo his ford aspire. he got a turbo from a stock Dodge Cummings. haha yeh that thing is huge. Well so far its all put together. As of tonight he has to hook up the feed line, change oil, exhaust, downpipe and few others. I'll try to get some pics.

Are you talking about the turbo from a 6.7L diesel Cummins engine? That might be way to big for a little Aspire 1.3L. But if you manage to get it working good luck to you guys lol

I'm interested to see how this works. Definitely keep us updated! I'd love to see some pictures like you said.

yep thats what im talking about. hopefully it does work out. lol

If that car wasn't kia quality, it would be a nice little ride.

i think the turbo has more displacement in the housing than the motor has!!

Holy jesus, huge turbo..

If the turbo ever spools it'll detonate the motor......

^^haha!

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No way in hell that thing is going to spool.

Holy jesus, huge turbo..

Actually they arent that big... I have one on the truck and another one sitting in the garage.

I love those Aspires! I would rock one of those in a heartbeat!

i cant wait to see the aftermath... good news is the turbo is worth more than the motor probably and at least the turbo isnt gonna blow up lol

hoontastic

As soon as I can get down to Charlie's junkyard, I'll take pics of a "modded" Aspire for ya.

This isnt an Aspire.... but I like their line of thinking!!!!!

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would be badass if it did. Buddy hasnt been home so i havent been able to get pics. hopefully get some tomm if he isnt working or i can get ahold, and john i could see you driving a turbo aspire, wouldnt ya?

I used to have a cummins turbo on a stock 1.6 litre honda. It was a waste of time but fun. full boost was around 6000 rpm. It did make 298 whp. that was also a 4th gear pull. without vtec cross over there was no way it wouldve ever got it spooling.

GOODLUCK

^^^ wait... if you had VTEC why would you bother with turbo??? I mean.... when a turbo spools its a big enough kick in the pants but with VTEC kicking in too... oh man lol... sorry i just had to

hahhaha, buddy of mine has a ford festiva with a cammed 1.3l sohc mazda 323 motor that he is working on turbo'ing in the near future but he is using an old dsm turbo. they are suprisingly fast as [:)][:)][:)][:)] when turbo's and pretty bad ass.

also i know alot of the honda guys only do an ls swapp so they don't have to worry about vtec, no point in it when ur boosted justl ike you said.

Ls is gargabe when boosted. Its as easy as that. the only thing good from an ls is the block and crank.
Theres a reason everyone swaps them out to b18c1 or b18c5 or going ls vtec. For vtec.

Look at all the high horsepower hondas. All b18c1,b18c5, lsvtec or k20 or k24. all have vtec

Dont get me wrong a boosted Ls is a fun car but it could be better.

Talk all you want but vtec is badass. Just like that v8 in your chevelle or the zetec or duratec in the focus. Certain people make Hondas gay,ricer whatever you want to call it. I can say people do the same to focus's.

If its fast give it some respect. No matter whats under the hood. If you don't like it shut your mouth. Cause in all everyone that races has something in common. To go fast and win.

It might spool if he blocks off half the hot side.


14b next to a hx35:

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Ls is gargabe when boosted. Its as easy as that. the only thing good from an ls is the block and crank.
Theres a reason everyone swaps them out to b18c1 or b18c5 or going ls vtec. For vtec.

Look at all the high horsepower hondas. All b18c1,b18c5, lsvtec or k20 or k24. all have vtec

Dont get me wrong a boosted Ls is a fun car but it could be better.

Talk all you want but vtec is badass. Just like that v8 in your chevelle or the zetec or duratec in the focus. Certain people make Hondas gay,ricer whatever you want to call it. I can say people do the same to focus's.

If its fast give it some respect. No matter whats under the hood. If you don't like it shut your mouth. Cause in all everyone that races has something in common. To go fast and win.


lol i was only joking, and I wasn't making fun of you man. But i love the honda boyz when they talk about vtec like it's nitrous. didn't mean to upset you haha

Ls is gargabe when boosted. Its as easy as that. the only thing good from an ls is the block and crank.
Theres a reason everyone swaps them out to b18c1 or b18c5 or going ls vtec. For vtec.

Look at all the high horsepower hondas. All b18c1,b18c5, lsvtec or k20 or k24. all have vtec

Dont get me wrong a boosted Ls is a fun car but it could be better.

Talk all you want but vtec is badass. Just like that v8 in your chevelle or the zetec or duratec in the focus. Certain people make Hondas gay,ricer whatever you want to call it. I can say people do the same to focus's.

If its fast give it some respect. No matter whats under the hood. If you don't like it shut your mouth. Cause in all everyone that races has something in common. To go fast and win.

ahh makes sense. i was just sayin what i had heard from a few of the guys around here. i know we have abunch of turbo'd daul cam swapped civics runnin around here that are [:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)] bad ass little cars.

Oh i am not mad at all guys. Sorry if it came off that way. No harm.

There is just no way the aspire is going to spool that turbo until 4th gear. HaHa
They should just get a turbo from a dsm or turbo probe,thunderbird, svo mustang.
something thatd be worth the work they are putting in to it.

I know what you mean about people talking up vtec though. It does get old. I agree though.
I bet most people that drive a car with it dont even know what it stands for ha

lol, i still think its pretty bad ass tho! would be nuts if it proves us all wrong and spools uip like it should. i think if that happens i will be going to buy an aspire tomorrow.

Ha i hope its done soon i wanna know the results.

well most of it is done. Just gotta do down pipe and exhast. he had to order a v-neck and couple other little things. i might get some pics tomm after he gets off work. im sorry bout not having the pics but i can only get em when he is working on it.

this will be crazy. all you hear is turbo once it spools....if it spools haha. Brutal.

guess we will find out huh. even if it runs low boost it should spool right?

well if its any thing like the room under my buddys festiva's hood theres plenty of space for it!

This should be cool, I dont know if it will spool that turbo, but if it does just a bit, itl still be cool. He needs to put a VTAC sticker on his car.
OH NO VTAC KICK IN!

There is just no way the aspire is going to spool that turbo until 4th gear. HaHa


So turbo's are driven via the transmission?


SOB, I learned somtin new taday.

Yeah, haven't you heard of a transmission spooled turbo? It spools when the tranny is in motion lol. Seriously though,the turbo could spool but I don't see the engine pushing hard enough to do it. It will probably move it a little bit in the higher RPM's but by the time you get that high you're just going to roast the motor. It would probably be better to use either a 14b, 16g or the turbo that was in the Mazda 323 GTX. Hope to see some pictures and updates on this as it does seem interesting to see.

Iminhell i was over exaggerating. Hence the HaHa. I was just saying it is going to take forever to spool. Hell by the time it spools its just gonna be time to shift gears anyways.

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I can just imagine trying to tune this will be a pain in the rear side lol

lol can i just ask WHY???

when A) it doesnt work
OR B) it will blow up...

will it be worth it??

So how soon till you start it up? I wanna hear how long it lasts lol.

I really want to stuff a Zetec motor in one of those. NA of course but headwork, cams, and high compression. Then roll up on a CRX and say what now?

actually we started it up last night ran fine and reved smooth. couldnt hear the turbo that much but u can hear it. gonna take the silencer off the turbo and put the exhast and blow off valve on maybe tonight or tomm.

and for NeweracapMAN why not? always flat out crazy shit that should be done or could be done that no one does so might as well try it and see if it fails or succeeds

Yeah, haven't you heard of a transmission spooled turbo? It spools when the tranny is in motion lol. Seriously though,the turbo could spool but I don't see the engine pushing hard enough to do it. It will probably move it a little bit in the higher RPM's but by the time you get that high you're just going to roast the motor. It would probably be better to use either a 14b, 16g or the turbo that was in the Mazda 323 GTX. Hope to see some pictures and updates on this as it does seem interesting to see.

I believe on my s40, when people hook up boost gauges they always try to build boost in park by revving their engine and freak out when their boost gauge says 0 or negative boost. I think (could be wrong) the car has to be in drive to build boost.

lol can i just ask WHY???

when A) it doesnt work
OR B) it will blow up...

will it be worth it??


Hell yes itll be worth it!!! Can you say you built a 12 second aspire? Even if it lasted for only 1 pass? At the very least, it kept a couple of guys out of trouble for a few days.

Thats why we did our "project" cars. Its something to do. Noone gets hurt, everyone stays out of trouble, everyone involved has a ton of fun, and you have stories to tell for the rest of your life. You dont get that by sitting on your ass.

I believe on my s40, when people hook up boost gauges they always try to build boost in park by revving their engine and freak out when their boost gauge says 0 or negative boost. I think (could be wrong) the car has to be in drive to build boost.


Maybe i'm wrong but i dont think you have to be driving to build boost, Hence youtube videos of guys revving and you hear the BOV. Boost has to be present for the BOV to make noise. My friends eclipse spools in neutral.

No you dont have to be driving to build boost.
When the car is under no load the engine free revs, theres not as much air coming from the exhaust to spool the turbo. In this situation its even more so, seeing as you have a 1.3l trying to spool a very large turbo. I doubt you will see much if any reading on the boost gauge while free reving, now if you had a t20 or smaller you may see a lot of boost while free reving. When you are driving the engine is under load and pushes more air out the exhaust which makes the turbo spool. Thats why you dont spool as much just free reving the engine.

If at best you have a high priced room fan crammed under the hood at load free revs. Take it out on the road and give it some punches on the pedal, you probably won't hit boost until you are higher up in the RPM range though and by that time you will be ready to shift.

No you dont have to be driving to build boost.
When the car is under no load the engine free revs, theres not as much air coming from the exhaust to spool the turbo. In this situation its even more so, seeing as you have a 1.3l trying to spool a very large turbo. I doubt you will see much if any reading on the boost gauge while free reving, now if you had a t20 or smaller you may see a lot of boost while free reving. When you are driving the engine is under load and pushes more air out the exhaust which makes the turbo spool. Thats why you dont spool as much just free reving the engine.

Good explanation! [thumb]

Newbs on my s40 forum get all freaked out when they try to test their new boost gauge out in neutral. They post in troubleshooting section "why won't my boost gauge work" and then one of us senior members have to let them in on the secret.[shhh]

This thread rocks so much lol

BTW it's always been a secret dream of mine to build a rallycross ready Festiva lol

a festiva hell yeh. one of my cars i want badly. i wanna get one and strip the interior make it light as possible oh yeh death wish haha but fun.

just would like to update telling ppl that we been driving the aspire around for a good while now. its pretty neat. just finished exhast the other day been driving around with just the down pipe lol. but the only thing bad is the clutch is about gone so it doesnt hold very well. but we have it set on 8 psi its neat.

im biulding a b6 festiva , turbo in the future.

that would be slick, yeh my buddy is gonna take that big turbo off and put a smaller one on an also getting a 1.8 out of a escort gt and puttin it in the apsire