: just a thought...


myfafp3
08-04-2009, 12:43 PM
I've got this svt header kit in my garage collecting dust. Reason being is I'm wanting to go forced induction. The jrsc is really appealing to me but in the long run I know I'd want more power.

I was thinking of a remote turbo setup using the svt header. Most zetec kits have the turbo up front but I was thinking of placing it behind the motor for a more stealth approach.

Svt header, orp, custom pipe to turbo inlet, turbo, down pipe, and flex attached at the end before it meets the rest of the exhust.

Has anyone tried this before? I know I can have all the piping fabbed up pretty easily. Just wanted some thoughts and input before I start. Thanks guys.

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CaysE
08-04-2009, 01:04 PM
Would be cool if you're not using an intercooler, since you can just run the intake piping straight up to the manifold. I would skip the ORP and mount the turbo just behind the motor. Header -> uppipe -> turbo -> downpipe -> flex -> exhaust.

If you're going to run an intercooler, I'd keep the turbo up front.

Randori
08-04-2009, 01:08 PM
I was thinking the same exact thing yesterday! You are not talking a real remote turbo setup, with the turbo at the back of the car, right? You want it just behind the motor.

I was thinking a smallish turbo too to minimize lag and respond well to the flow of the SVT header.

I personally don't have huge power dreams. I would mostly want to do FI for the uniqueness of a SVT header Turbo setup.

Yocrew
08-04-2009, 01:31 PM
It's been done. Someone on here had one and I'm pretty sure it was up for sale awhile back.

myfafp3
08-04-2009, 03:05 PM
Would be cool if you're not using an intercooler, since you can just run the intake piping straight up to the manifold. I would skip the ORP and mount the turbo just behind the motor. Header -> uppipe -> turbo -> downpipe -> flex -> exhaust.

If you're going to run an intercooler, I'd keep the turbo up front.

Well I said orp because the header stops under the pan. I as gonna just get a pipe made with the right flange on it for the turbo to mount to.

And I probably would run a small intercooler. There are a few paths the intake piping could run and not get too hot.
-could run it to the passenger side over near the coolant reservor
-or heat wrap it and have it run next to the header for about 7 or 8 inches then bend it away towards the intercooler inlet.
- or possibly a custom top mount intercooler with some hood work

My imagination is running wild right now.

Edit: I'm only looking for 250-280 horse. That's more than enough to turn heads around here lol. Specially from a "stock" looking sedan.
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Randori
08-04-2009, 04:10 PM
I would probably try to go without an Intercooler for the simplicity of it.

How much PSI could a Zetec take without an intercooler?

bmylez
08-04-2009, 06:41 PM
About 5, seriously. CFM said they saw intake temps of 250* @ 6 psi. That's gonna kill your power.

Turbo Turtle
08-04-2009, 09:01 PM
there was a guy that done a remote turbo on FJ a long time ago. lag seriously sucked bad. he ran a small turbo and it spooled like a large one. if you want stealth just tell people it isnt turbo... most people wound know a turbo if you hit them in the face with one.

pitchedblack04
08-04-2009, 09:14 PM
Someone had a remote for sale on here awhile back. Looked pretty neat but didnt hear how it performed or why he was selling it......

myfafp3
08-04-2009, 09:36 PM
there was a guy that done a remote turbo on FJ a long time ago. lag seriously sucked bad. he ran a small turbo and it spooled like a large one. if you want stealth just tell people it isnt turbo... most people wound know a turbo if you hit them in the face with one.


Lol I noticed. There shouldn't be much lag its not going to be at the rear of the car, just tucked behind the motor and above the steering rack. The only thing I'm worried about is how the turbo will sit, which way to face it, and how to keep my rack n pinion from getting really warm...I'm sure I can shield it somehow.

Keep the info comin guys and gals I've got lots of ideas written on paper here lol
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Randori
08-04-2009, 09:58 PM
I would probably be fine with 5psi. Maybe I could rig up an intake pipe or tiny Intercooler under one of those ram-air hoods guys use with those volant intakes.

..:: sleestak ::..
08-04-2009, 11:33 PM
Seems like a lot of work to try and get 5psi and be all stealthy. You are going to be getting all kinds of custom piping done and extra cashola just to have lag and no intercooler .. which is just going to limit you if you get the itch for more.

Why not a procharger? They are pretty stealthy in appearance because it just looks like a CAI is on the car and you don't hear the whine ... just the BOV and by that point, it would probably be too late for them. You could run 15psi intercooled and net some nice #'s. Just my .02

Master-Baits
08-04-2009, 11:44 PM
with it being stealth it wont be worth it... u wanna suprise cars that underestimate you, but with only 5 psi, you wont beat anything worth bragging about

myfafp3
08-05-2009, 01:43 PM
Not to be a bitch but U guys are not READING my posts just skimming. I SAID I would run an intercooler. And the turbo is not in the back of the car. Its behind the motor. If u wanna comment READ what I'm saying.

Soo...

As far as tuning is concerned I'm gonna have to get one from the all mighty tom. I'm just wondering which wideband to get. I hear great reviews from the aem. Are there any other brands you guys would recommend? And where would I tap it in? Before or after the turbo? I'm not too familiar with forced induction as far as electrical and tuning.

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CaysE
08-05-2009, 02:05 PM
Everybody is reading it just fine I think, but the point people are making is that putting the turbo back there isn't going to be cost-conducive if you're going to intercool it. You end up running an excessive amount of pipe to get to the front bumper, or you end up needing a custom hood for a top mount and lose the stealthiness.

Focalized31
08-05-2009, 04:28 PM
I was talkin wit a friend of mine about this, but HE, wants to cut up his SVT header, an use it as a turbo mani? Possible? SVT header slows great right? lol just a random thought he had..

myfafp3
08-05-2009, 05:31 PM
Everybody is reading it just fine I think, but the point people are making is that putting the turbo back there isn't going to be cost-conducive if you're going to intercool it. You end up running an excessive amount of pipe to get to the front bumper, or you end up needing a custom hood for a top mount and lose the stealthiness.


Thank you for the input. Its not going to be excessive amout of piping. I'm only moving it 2 feet from where almost every other zetec turbo would be. I'm going to need more tubing yes. I know that. All the necessary components will be in places that are easy to reach and disassemble should I need to.

I pretty much have an idea of where things are going. I just need to finalize it and start buying parts I guess.
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PumkinSvt
08-05-2009, 05:34 PM
you need a rebuild first homie! remember saturday night? hahaha

focusguy87
08-05-2009, 05:38 PM
Not to be a bitch but U guys are not READING my posts just skimming. I SAID I would run an intercooler. And the turbo is not in the back of the car. Its behind the motor. If u wanna comment READ what I'm saying.

Soo...

As far as tuning is concerned I'm gonna have to get one from the all mighty tom. I'm just wondering which wideband to get. I hear great reviews from the aem. Are there any other brands you guys would recommend? And where would I tap it in? Before or after the turbo? I'm not too familiar with forced induction as far as electrical and tuning.

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