http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1923

and

http://focus.c-f-m.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=1042

Worthwhile (one or the other or both) for a >=350whp SVT turbo build? Or is the SVT intake manifold good enough? Thought I've heard a lot of stories of blowing them up...

Thanks!

That FR 70mm t/b won't work with that CFM intake manifold without some sort of adapter plate. I would just go with their 67mm t/b if you go with their manifold. Ford Racing also has a nice intake manifold and works with their 70mm t/b.

^^ Yeah I meant the FR intake mani... oops... that one looked just like it, thought it was the FR one! Lol. And yeah, the 70mm needs a spacer to fit on the FR intake mani from what I saw... would these 2 things be worth much improvement wise and durability wise?

Definitely would be worthwhile. You don't need an adapter if you use the FR intake with their 70mm t/b.

Question is... Which would be best... FR or CFM one? If any difference? Thinking on terms of durability and improvement. Hmmm.

In my opinion the FR one is the way to go , the one CFM sells wasent tested , no R&D was dont isnt built to a quality piece , nothing on CFM they just sell it and had nothing to do with it being built , if you want that kind of intake go with the j-racing but there agin those kind of intakes are not really for street cars , the FR has long runners to help with low end TQ

Tom

^^ Awesome. Thanks Tom. Sounds great. FR, I'm sure Mike can grab me one. What would the optimal TB (throttle response, etc) to run with the FR intake mani?

That jayracing one looks pretty nice, just went and took a look at it... You say it's not really for "steet use"... I intend to drive my car on the street... though not as a DD... performance wise is it superior to the FR one or comparable... just not good for periodic street driving (couple times a week)?

I just sent you a pm where I did a before and after G-tech simulated dyno of the FRIM if it's worth anything to you.

^^ Thanks a ton man, checking it out now :)

In my opinion the FR is still your best choise

Tom

if u put the FR intake manifold and 70mm FR throttle body on a stock focus; do u have to get a tune?

does anyone have pics of a FR manifold on the car hooked up....curious to see where everything goes!


p.s
i can smell a FR manifold and 70mm throttle body in the very near future!

In my opinion the FR is still your best choise

Tom

Ok, thanks!! I'll check out how much I can get one for :D

A guy on FJ put the FRIM on his SVT and it definitely helped. He made very impressive power with a Disco Potato at only...21 psi or so. You have to modify the alternator mounting bracket as well as a few other little things to make it fit.

There is a guy/company making an alternator bracket adapter that places the alternator further down and should reduce if not eliminate any grinding. It sells for around $65 I think. Definitely worth the investment if it works.

i haz one..... i highly just in looking for dot99's thread on FJ on the alternator bracket if you want to save a little cash. I did it and it works fine.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/ace2u2003/P1010058.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/ace2u2003/P1010098.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/ace2u2003/P1010092.jpg

This is the reason why i say look for that thread.. cause you have to move the alternator to get it to fit and once its there, it's one TIGHT fit.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/ace2u2003/P1010093.jpg

^^ Ahhh, I'll hafta check it out! Thanks :) Looks good. How much did you pay for it?

I did the modifications like mentioned in dot99's thread and I still had to do ALOT of grinding on the alternator. For $65 I would definitely look at the adapter plate.

Yeah I bought mine on FJ for $65 from lapp4sm. It fits perfectly and clearances everything quite nicely. Definitely worth the cash to not have to deal with that headache.

Do yourself a favor and buy an oem throttle body from ford for an 99 ford f150 5.4. It's identical to the one for the FR intake and about 1/3 the price. Only issue is you will need to fabricate a throttle cable bracket. So if you have a welder you are golden. just cut & modify your oem bracket.

^^ Thank you for the heads up :)

You also will need an adapter to connect your TPS if you just go with the F150 t/b as well as the cable bracket. However, I don't think they sell them separately. Things to consider if you try to save money by going that way.

Ahhh... Well... money isn't really a concern... within reason.. :D

Do yourself a favor and buy an oem throttle body from ford for an 99 ford f150 5.4. It's identical to the one for the FR intake and about 1/3 the price. Only issue is you will need to fabricate a throttle cable bracket. So if you have a welder you are golden. just cut & modify your oem bracket.

I do agree it saves money up front but feel the FR 70MM that is made for the FR Intake is the better deal

The FR TB for the FR Intake has
You wont have to mess with throttle and cruise hook ups
You will have the Vac port there for the Air Idle Controle Valve
You will get a TPS and adaptor so it is a direct plug in

Tom

I do agree it saves money up front but feel the FR 70MM that is made for the FR Intake is the better deal

The FR TB for the FR Intake has
You wont have to mess with throttle and cruise hook ups
You will have the Vac port there for the Air Idle Controle Valve
You will get a TPS and adaptor so it is a direct plug in

Tom
Ah... good to know... def will just stick wit the FR TN then! Thanks for he heads up.

yeah i tried the F150 tb at first and found out the hard way.... the only, sry, best way to do this is to get the 70mm FR tb. it comes with everything you will need to mount up and not have a problem.

FYI.... if you dont have your EGR system any more, do like me. Make sure that it's closed and make it your egr block off to save a little cash there.

SVTs don't have EGR [:)]

when putting a frim and 70 mm throttle body on a stock focus..do u need a tune. can u put it on and drive the car without any problems?

I would say you're gonna need a tune. An intake manifold isn't really one of those bolt-on parts like an intake. Since the FRIM doesn't have a crazy design, you could probably get away with it, but you won't reap the full benefits without a new tune.

Remember there are 2 generations of the FRIM. 1st GEN fits SVT head without modding it & the 2nd GEN fits non SVT head without modding it.