Anyone hear about this? Shell is "enriching" their gasoline with nitrogen.

http://www.shell.us/home/content/usa/aboutshell/media_center/news_and_press_releases/2009/nitrogen_030209.html

i just saw a cpl of commercials about it, now to find a shell station close to me

I used it in my last tank switched to BP and actually noticed that the Shell gas made the engine run smoother. Anyone else notice this?

I typically use Shell because it's convenient to home. Seen the ads but can't honestly say I notice any difference. My guess is that it could help long term, who knows.

Odd, my gas filler cap says "Ford recommends BP fuels"...haha

hey, nothing wrong w/ that!! its good that shell is making their stuff even better!!

interesssttiinnggg....have to give it a try, typically i stick to hess...
mobile is too damn expensive for 93...

I have Shell available a few miles from home, so I use it. I've seen the commercials, so all of that is fine with me.

My "stock" ST likes regualar just fine, so any Shell additive is a bonus. I guess we will see how this works out.

I do applaud Shell for staying ahead of the curve.

Eh I have always used Shell gas. Just saw it on a sign and wondered "what the heck". Interesting. Maybe someone good at chemistry can enlighten us as to whether or not this would truly work.

Well this is news to me...I just put shell in my car yesterday. And my car started acting weird, first off I thought for sure the amount I put in would fill it up but it didnt, my idle seems kinda low and as if the engine isnt running like it was. I mean I did just clean my air filter and the MAF figured it was something with that, but maybe its the gas. I'll run this tank dry, fill'er up with a different brand and see what happens lol.

well shell had to keep up with bp and their addatives to keep your car runnin better and cleaner ... i noticed that running cheap caseys gas which has approx 25% ethanol ruins my gas mileage ... so bp and speedway for me til i get a turbo :D

i read the little brochure for it. all it is, is a cleaner to keep carbon build up down. not really anything to jump at. though shell is known for having good gas. i like to run the v-power when i can.

Quick newb question, id like to switch my octane to higher grade is it as easy as waiting to run on low and switching to a higher octane? would my car suffer?

No you can make the switch at any time, but what's the reason? If you've been running 87 and have no knock, there shoudn't be a reason to make the switch.

Do you know what else has nitrogen in it??? N2O. So, inso-facto, nitrous oxide is good for your motor lol

wait ... nitrous dont make motors go ka f'n BOOM!!! ... ill stick to a turbo ... when i get the money

What I love is that there regular gas was keeping away " Gunky Build Up" but NOW THEY ADD Nitrogen and that keeps the Gunk at bay. What was wrong with there other gas. If you watch the old comercials they compare there gas to "Discount gasoline". Where the hell do you find "Discount Gasoline". I'll just stick to my BP gas.

yeah ... ill stick to bp ... its the same price as speedway and i get better mileage

Do you know what else has nitrogen in it??? N2O. So, inso-facto, nitrous oxide is good for your motor lol



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I laffed pretty good first time I saw the commercial. Sweet, more crap additives that will not give me more heat.

Stupid marketing college uneducated kids, I tell ya. [thumb]

Do you know what else has nitrogen in it??? N2O. So, inso-facto, nitrous oxide is good for your motor lol

It's the oxygen in N2O that gives you the boost.

Do you know what else has nitrogen in it??? N2O. So, inso-facto, nitrous oxide is good for your motor lol

Just want to add that the only reason there is nitrogen is as a stabilizing agent, pure oxygen is highly combustible, even while in the bottle.

I' think i'll just stick with QT (QuickTrip) gas!!!

I've always used Shell gas ever since Texaco became hard to find, I'll keep using Shell.

I like my BP

Ive used it my last couple of fill ups, and I like it. But if you read the fine print at the stations, it says it takes about 4000 miles I believe it is for you to have real lasting results.

Just want to add that the only reason there is nitrogen is as a stabilizing agent, pure oxygen is highly combustible, even while in the bottle.

Yes, the nitrogen being non-flammable and non-oxidizing, helps keep the oxygen in check. Pumping pure O2 into your engine would cause a nice explosion.

So i went to shells webite to see how it is that they get nitrogen in the fuel. I couldnt find any specifics. We use Liquid nitrogen (LN2) at work all the time. LN2 is something like -150 degrees, so its boiling or turning into gas form once it hits the air. And the gas form evaporates very quick too do to the temp. I dont see how this new formula is possible.

i always use shell, for some reason i dont know why the shell by my house is always cheaper than the rickidy gas stations all over town.

yea...i use shell as well. its good gas and i've never had a problemo with it.

Conoco/Phillips priced right and no problems.

i HATE shell gas, in fact i will pay an extra 10 cents a gallon for cheveron near my apartment over shell, everytime i fill up with shell my car runs like shit and my mpg drops by 3-4, so for me ANYTHING but shell is what i use

my svt loves shell and conoco

Is there really that much difference between brands? I've always used either Shell or Chevron in pretty much every car I've had, and never noticed a difference from one to the other. In my work vehicle, I use any station that accepts Wright Express cards, which means the brand varies greatly, and I can't recall ever thinking "gee whiz it runs like crap, must be that gas from Valero I put in the tank."

I prefer Shell for long term things, I don't really know how much of a difference it is as far as performance. But before I used Shell I used Texaco with the Techron. Now I use Shell because of V-Power and the cleaning agents.. and now the nitrogen.

I always put one gallon of cam 2 in every other tank to keep things clean, but I still go to shell and get the v power!

So i went to shells webite to see how it is that they get nitrogen in the fuel. I couldnt find any specifics. We use Liquid nitrogen (LN2) at work all the time. LN2 is something like -150 degrees, so its boiling or turning into gas form once it hits the air. And the gas form evaporates very quick too do to the temp. I dont see how this new formula is possible.

Are you thinking nitrogen only forms as a N2 complex? Ever hear of ammonium or nitric acid???

As for the cleaning attribute, Shell is being coy with the proprietary aspect and therefore not releasing the chemical makeup. It maybe a new, fantastic cleaning additive but while I'm sure it's fine, I have doubts that it is really superior to existing additives. My hunch leans more towards a play at advertising.

Doug

It maybe a new, fantastic cleaning additive but while I'm sure it's fine, I have doubts that it is really superior to existing additives. My hunch leans more towards a play at advertising.

Doug

Agreed....infact im sure the only thing this nitro really does is keep the holding tanks cleaner with less H20 build up. but hey if it brings more folks to the pump then more $$ for them.

Not sure if it will or not. These days, I doubt it. But I've always used their fuel so unless this new stuff causes issues, I'll keep using it.

Are you thinking nitrogen only forms as a N2 complex? Ever hear of ammonium or nitric acid???

As for the cleaning attribute, Shell is being coy with the proprietary aspect and therefore not releasing the chemical makeup. It maybe a new, fantastic cleaning additive but while I'm sure it's fine, I have doubts that it is really superior to existing additives. My hunch leans more towards a play at advertising.

Doug

Now that you point it out, i bet it is more ammonia form. Ford (among others) had played around with ammonia burning engines. It actually burns clean, if it totally burns. But it needs high compression (its like 110oct), and the burn byproduct is was too much h20. To the common person nitrogen sounds cleaner/better the running ammonia additive. Thats the only thing i can think, sure nitric acid isnt in the formula.

I always use shell mainl because there is one 1/4 mile from my place.
Since they have put the nitrogen in the gass I need to spend more time filling my tank. That stuff bubbles like no tomorrow.
I have noticed a gain in mpg's I always use v-power due to my 93 oct tune and I have never had a problem with them and the one down the street from my place has a carwash too, lol
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Can anyone explain a real reason my gas cap says bp on it? Is there a real reason.. was the engine tuned for their gas or something... or was it just a marketing thing? Does bp offer the cleaning agents that my Shell gas does?

I don't even know what bp gas is, lol
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Can anyone explain a real reason my gas cap says bp on it? Is there a real reason.. was the engine tuned for their gas or something... or was it just a marketing thing? Does bp offer the cleaning agents that my Shell gas does?

We do ford catalyst testing/aging, and they specify amoco (bp) fuels. They also specify it for engine durability testing. Maybe that has something to do with it?

I don't know why you guys like shell. I was filling up with shell before all the time, then I filled up with chevron and I couldn't believe in difference. Much more power and engine is running much smoother.
I thought maybe it's something with me, then I run 2 tanks of shell again, and filled up with chevron, same effect.
Plus chevron doesn't put ads and make you wait.
I switched to chevron now.

I just try to find anything without the 10% ethenol. I notice the biggest difference between those two types. The best brand ive noticed though is marathon, with stp additives. Its like having richard petty in your gas tank.

Yes, the nitrogen being non-flammable and non-oxidizing, helps keep the oxygen in check. Pumping pure O2 into your engine would cause a nice explosion.

Sorry.. wrong about O2... O2 is NOT flamable. Combustion, or fire is a cemical process. It can be looked at in a triangle. One side is fuel (gas) another side is O2, of which any fire or combustion needs. And the third side is heat (spark). Take one away and you won't have combustion or fire. More O2 makes the fuel (gas) burn more efficiantly, as the O2 content in our atmosphere isn't in that high a concentration. That is why nitros oxide works so well.. it adds more O2. And that is not because O2 is combustible.... it makes the burning of the fuel more efficiant. Hope that helps.

I didn't say oxygen was flammable. I said nitrogen was non-flammable and non-OXIDIZING, which is what O2 is, it makes flammable things burn hotter and faster.

Pump pure O2 into your engines cylinders with gasoline and you'll blow the pistons right through the oil pan.

Nitrogen is inert, so it helps keep oxygen's volatility in check.

So has anyone else experienced shitty gas mileage with the new Shell gas? I've used Shell almost religiously for a long time, but it seems like ever since they did the new thing my mileage has sucked. I switched to Exxon a few fill ups ago and my mileage is fine again.

wait ... nitrous dont make motors go ka f'n BOOM!!! ... ill stick to a turbo ... when i get the money

Turbo,nitrous or not,an engine can blow up all the same.[;)]

I don't even know what bp gas is, lol
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BP= British Petroleum. BP merged with Amoco back in 1998.

Not to hijack, bad part is Shell imports oil from Middle East
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