: Obx lsd?
03-11-2009, 05:36 PM
i ran across this on e-bay and was wondering if anyone else has seen or heard about the obx lsd? its cheaper of course but is it really worth the 4 or 5 hundred dollars it sells for?
OBX - LSD - click me (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-Helical-LSD-02-04-Ford-Focus-SVT-2-0L-Differential_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742Q2em153Q2el1262QQcategoryZ33731QQihZ006QQitemZ160305179138QQtcZphoto)
03-11-2009, 05:58 PM
haha, um, no, if ur gonna spend that money on a POS, why not spend the extra 100 and get a torsen!!!
03-11-2009, 06:00 PM
^^ agreed....... I've heard NOTHING good about the obx lsd..... except that it broke and their owners thankfully bought a real one [hihi]
03-11-2009, 06:30 PM
i would not buy that from them , obx is only good for little things
03-12-2009, 04:45 AM
torsen=bang for buck
03-12-2009, 05:33 AM
i wasnt planning on getting this, as a matter of fact i dont even have the getrag. i was just wondering if anyone has heard anything good/bad about this perticular lsd.
up until now i didnt even know anything else existed except for quaife, torsen, and that cheapo phantom grip.
03-17-2009, 05:37 PM
on iClub's site, there's a dyno (http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121324&highlight=OBX+Intake) of a OBX Cold Air Intake for a 99 Impreza making the same amount of power as more popular brands. I found the thread but the images have been taken down... :(
That's the extent of my experience with OBX, though. I met joltdudeuc at several meets and he's not a BS'r. Can they make a decent LSD? No idea. Their catalog has a whole lot of items in it, but really... I don't think they manufacture it until demand has it. I have never come across anyone that has bought it, yet year after year it they still have it available. :T
However... check out this link that tested the OBX LSD's build quality:
CB7Tuner user's review (http://www.cb7tuner.com/vbb/showthread.php?t=40121)
It stops short of getting it in there and testing, though... but at least you can get some pretty good quality images and a somewhat informed set of eyes on it.
03-17-2009, 06:02 PM
This has been discussed numerous upon numerous times. Please use the search, here's just a few.... (http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/search.php?searchid=2158336).
I hear everyone saying it's junk but those are the only people that never actually bought it and are just repeaters. I never actually read about anyone that actually personally bought one and say it's crap. Just all the people who never used one jump on the bandwagon and say it's crap because it's on ebay.
The quaife and torsen are pretty much both the same besides quaife's lifetime warranty, even for race purposes. If you plan on going forced induction, that should be the obvious choice.
03-17-2009, 08:33 PM
No one has EVER broke a Torsen, and Quaife has a sweet warentee. IMO, why wouldn't you go w/ a proven setup?? why would you risk 400 bucks when for 100 more you know you will be golden???
Anyways, as I am quoting someone but i do not know who, they said something along the lines of "OBX, i wouldn't even use that on my lawnmower!!"
03-17-2009, 09:08 PM
That would be 03orangesvt. He said that one of his FI threads. He'll prolly chime in here
03-18-2009, 10:56 AM
I will NOT use OBX on anything.
For $100 more you can get a TOP QUALITY piece.... not only do you have to look at the price of the LSD but you need to consider the price of replacing the tranny IF the LSD fails.
Quaife and Torsen are BOTH proven in multiple racing venues.... OBX rips off everyone elses ideas and makes them cheaper.... which one do you want in YOUR $1000 transmission???
03-18-2009, 12:05 PM
... OBX rips off everyone elses ideas and makes them cheaper....
This pretty much sums up OBX in a nut shell and why everyone gets on the bandwagon and says their stuff is junk, Company that develop the product make it to meet the specs they determined and companies like OBX come in make it out of whatever the hell they want. SO not only do they have cheaper materials, they don't have the developmental cost. Not for something like an intake that may not matter since its just a tube...but diffs are complex, and then their exhaust stuff is simple but the poor quality just leads to cracks..need I say more..so that my thoughts.
03-18-2009, 02:03 PM
Regardless... we are all speculating because no one has bought an OBX LSD. Apparently, OBX won some award at SEMA (http://www.sema.org/Main/SemaOrgHome.aspx?ID=56260) in 2006 for a performance turbo charger (http://www.sema.org/main/semaorghome.aspx?id=56769). Look for OBX in the lists provided. An Argentinian turner magazine judge digs their turbo... I love his reasons why he/she selected his winners. :|
03-19-2009, 05:38 AM
I think people just get mad that they spent so much money for something they could have gotten for half price. The OBX LSD is around 400 bucks, if you find a LSD for 100 dollars more please let me know. The cheapest LSD is the Torsen and it runs 690 ish for the Getrag. Thats almost 300 bucks more. Quaife runs over 1100. What would I do with 1100 bucks?
OBX LSD 400
Tranny rebuild 300
700= New tranny! and still have 400 to play with!
I bet there are a lot of people that have them installed and say they have a Torsen or Quaife for the same reason. Everybody talks crap about OBX so no one wants to admit they are using them in their cars.
03-19-2009, 08:03 AM
Guarantee it would never been seen on mine, as alot of built cars. Alot of us have to much invested to cheap out on something that has to be trusted. A diff that has no testing, metalurgy reports, made in china, etc, with a crap warranty. Or using a part that is more expensive, trusted by racers, and has a hell of a warranty... Guess which one wins hands down.
Maybe OBX on some little stoplight racers car, but I have well over 12,000 into parts on my car,enough power to put it in the 13's easily, do you honestly think I would jepordise that to a 400 dollar cheapo part? You'd be wrong if you said yes.
By the way, let me know where you can even find rebuild parts for the getrag for 300 as you stated. Because I've yet to find anything even near double that price. And I definitely havent found a complete kit.
And the other 400 you saved you better keep, you'll need it for another tranny rebuild.
A few years back obx diffs were known for coming apart under high stress and destroying the transmission. That 400 dolar diff ended up costing them several thousand for a new tranny.
03-19-2009, 09:19 AM
I thought you couldn't rebuild the Getrag tranny. [???:)] So they do make a kit for it now?
But yeah either way, if you want a reliable product, go with what others have actually bought and tested on their "modified" cars. OBX may be good for someone like me that only has "small" mods but I would never trust something like that on a more modified car.
03-20-2009, 01:18 AM
Theres actually no rebuild kit available. You can get some of the parts tho.
If you know someone in europe most of the parts can be found. But as I said...not for 300 bucks...
Still wanna put that thing in an expensive tranny?
One other thing with the obx diff is the tolerances are pretty crappy.
03-20-2009, 07:22 AM
I guess I struck a nerve... I am by the way a person that likes racing as a hobby and is open to to other options that would save money for other things and if it doesnt work, oh well. If I would have spent 12,000 dollars on my car I wouldnt be talking 13's that is just embarrasing IMO. I have spent less than that including the price of the car and got into the 13s. But hey, you spend your money the way you see fit I will do the same. The 300 bucks will get me new bearings and some syncros according to the quote I got, plus labor,not a complete rebuild kit. I just placed my opinion and dont have to prove myself to no one, I will do that at the track. :o)
03-20-2009, 03:56 PM
I say, To each his own! and let's leave it at that.
03-22-2009, 05:04 AM
Nope, no nerve struck here.
That was posted to make a point, and thanks for helping prove it.
03-22-2009, 08:29 AM
I have brand new one I'll let go for cheap. I had planned to put in my spare transmission but it's not spec legal.
03-22-2009, 08:58 AM
ive been running the Torsen LSD for 12k miles....nothing but 2 black stripes and a grin from ear to ear. Torsen FTW [burnout]
03-26-2009, 02:59 AM
I got A spare Getrag for 500 bucks in very good condition. I will buy and OBX LSD and install it on the tranny I have on my car now since it has ovr 140K miles. I will post numbers, opinions and pics on the OBX LSD once Im done. This should be fun.