: my car was backed into last night
gonzorelic 02-21-2009, 02:28 PM so last night were leaving the club about 2am and were waiting on some friends that rode with me to find the car and out of the blue this cavalier just comes slamming into my front drivers side fender in reverse. the car pulls up and looks like he is about to bolt so i jump out of my car and run out in front of him cussing and i realize i know the boy he is from the same town as me. he realized he knows me and if he doest stop the car when he gets back to town his ass is as good as beat down. so he stops the car and opens the door and starts begging me to just go somewhere else to talk because theres like 5-6 cops walking the lot looking for drunks getting behind the wheel so i was like bullshit! i dont give a crap dude im sober as a judge and you hit me! im dead sober because i dont drink but the boy in the cavalier had been drinking and didnt want the cops involved because he was scared of goin to jail but his ass didnt need to be driving anyway so thats on him. so anyway the cops heard the crunch and walked over and got both our liscences and ins cards and also got him on tape saying he was going to pay out of pocket to fix the damage or else they would use his ins information or his girlfriends cuz thats whose car they were in. it was probobly her parents because she was all of about 19. so anyway after that i got all his info and his girlfriends info and so the cops had him on tape and his info on tape and i agreed that if his sober girlfriend drive home i would just get an estimate of the damages and he could pay for it out of pocket, if not i would go to the cops and get the tape and go after his insurance to pay. so being that i know the kid and its a small town i agreed because he knew i was about to blow my top and both of us were gonna go to jail, him for dui and me for whipping his ass. anyway i just so happened to work at a good body shop a few years back and have some good friends that are gonna write me a fat estimate so im prolly gonna get my dented hood fixed bumper repainted from the sun damage wheels painted, he broke a tab on my mach headlights that they dont make anymore so we will see if thats repairable or not because if not i feel for his wallet those arent cheap and they are hard to find. the fender needs replacing, i cant tell if the core support is bent or not, the car needed an alignment but he is gonna buy that now so we will see how it all goes. just thought id share my shitty night with everyone. oh and a fifth of red label was spilled in my backseat by the drunks i was babysitting so i gotta go out there today and try to clean that up.
norcalfocus01 02-21-2009, 02:36 PM dude i am so glad you got the cops involed. i would have done the same thing, he knows he shouldnt drive drunk and if he was so affaried of getting cuaght he should have got behind the wheel.
sorry to hear about your car tho, at least you got the hook up. i did that once when i had a bike stolen the shop where i bought everthing paded my quote to the insurance of what i had.
gonzorelic 02-21-2009, 02:41 PM yeah man i was like dude i could care less if you go to jail, if you didnt want to worry about goin to jail you shouldnt have hit my car. but i got them involved anyway and i just talked to him on the phone and he said just to go get an estimate and he would cover it so off to the body shop this week to see what i can muster up. i may just come out of this on top after all.
SVT_BMXer 02-21-2009, 02:46 PM I think you made the right move. I have 0 tolerance for drunk driving, I rarely drink but if I have any more than 2 I won't even start my car. Awesome the cops got his confession on tape saying he'll pay. I may have missed it but did he end up with a DUI?
TerryB 02-21-2009, 02:56 PM You really shouldn't post online what you're getting fixed not caused by the accident. That's if you expect him to pay for it. Also inflating the damage cost. You never know who's watching.
gonzorelic 02-21-2009, 03:03 PM i dont care whos watching. hes gonna pay or im gonna kick his door down. if he didnt want to get screwed he shouldnt be driving drunk. if he hadnt hit my car he wouldnt have it to worry about.
gonzorelic 02-21-2009, 03:04 PM bmxer: no he didnt get a dui. i agreed that if he let his girlfriend who is underage and sober drive home he could pay for it out of pocket and i wouldnt go after his (her daddys) insurance.
PapoSwing 02-21-2009, 03:19 PM Srry to hear it dude I would've gone ape on his ass no doubt[boxface] Is the damage bad, any pics u can post? I actually had some drunk hillbillies in a rusted out exhaust backfiring "redneck mobile" pick-up truck smash a beer bottle right into my drivers side mirror about 3 years ago! I ran after da coksukas but I've only got 2 legs u kno [hatchet] bastards drove away real quik too just as me and two buddys were chilling on their porch @ nite so i couldnt get their plate # plus they had a massive head start & i wasn't about to risk da whole car going after em: you win some you lose some... so be glad that ur getting this resolved man [thumb]
HGFireHazard 02-21-2009, 03:25 PM You really shouldn't post online what you're getting fixed not caused by the accident. That's if you expect him to pay for it. Also inflating the damage cost. You never know who's watching.
On top of this, while I can imagine your frustration with your car being hit and then needing to deal with all that stupid crap that comes with accidents, you don't have the right to inflate costs.
He should pay for exactly what he did and not a cent more, nor less. If your wheels need freshening up or this and that, that's on you man. Seriously, be a man and do the right thing.
jzizzle325 02-21-2009, 03:28 PM ^^^ Lets just say its a cost he has to pay for being an ass clown.
jzizzle325 02-21-2009, 03:29 PM or lets just say it would amount to the cost of the ticket he would have gotten etc. etc.
HGFireHazard 02-21-2009, 03:31 PM or lets just say it would amount to the cost of the ticket he would have gotten etc. etc.
Neither of your above posts are justifications.
How would you like it if you were at fault in an accident, agreed to settle on paying out of pocket because you didn't want your insurance rates to go up, and the other guy went and inflated the cost because he wanted to fix other crap on his car and thought you should be further penalized.
It's greedy, and it's wrong, period.
mikebontoft 02-21-2009, 03:34 PM ah. fantastic.
man, that sucks dude.
Weldman0730 02-21-2009, 03:34 PM good ole south ga, its funny how you know everyone in your hometown, cant get away with anything without everyone knowing, not that he should though.
bullitt5177 02-21-2009, 03:38 PM Neither of your above posts are justifications.
How would you like it if you were at fault in an accident, agreed to settle on paying out of pocket because you didn't want your insurance rates to go up, and the other guy went and inflated the cost because he wanted to fix other crap on his car and thought you should be further penalized.
It's greedy, and it's wrong, period.
I agree with this guy 100%. Drunk driving shouldn't be tolerated anywhere near as much as it is, but that doesn't mean you should get something for nothing out of it. If your car has problems that need to be fixed that weren't caused by the accident, then they're your problems. Don't push them on someone else.
SVT_BMXer 02-21-2009, 03:53 PM I missed the part about inflating the price. That is quite un-ethical and since the guy agree to pay out of pocket, he's atleast manning up to his mistake. I would quote him for everything damaged in the accident but that's it. Hope it all works out for you.
lightning2nd 02-21-2009, 04:56 PM that sucks man
DrkKnight614 02-21-2009, 05:47 PM I missed the part about inflating the price. That is quite un-ethical and since the guy agree to pay out of pocket, he's atleast manning up to his mistake. I would quote him for everything damaged in the accident but that's it. Hope it all works out for you.
I'd have to agree with this, if you have money left over from repairs thats one thing.....but just asking for more then you know you need just to fix problems on the rest of the car that has nothing to do with the accident is low, and really makes you just as much as an [:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)] as the guy who hit you. Not to mention karma will come back to you a few weeks later and those shiny new wheels will hit something huge in the road LOL.
zx360 02-21-2009, 05:48 PM so the GF was sober yet the guy felt the need to drive? im glad you called him out, drinkng and drivings not cool but insurance fraud is almost as uncool which is what your doing if you have the shop inflate the estimate to pad you pocket and fix other things
Slow03 02-21-2009, 05:51 PM Karma will get you for insurance fraud. I am a big believer in karma.
gonzorelic 02-21-2009, 06:27 PM im not inflating the price, he backed into my rim and skint the powdercoat off of it. it will be cheaper for him to paint my wheels black than buy me a new oem wheel.
gonzorelic 02-21-2009, 06:30 PM so in actuality im saving him money
gonzorelic 02-21-2009, 06:33 PM i also saved him atleast a few hundred dollar fine and a few hours in jail by agreeing to settle on this matter without the help of the police so he should be pretty damn grateful because like others here i have zero tolerance for drunks behind the wheel, especially when theres a perfectly sober person in the passenger seat. its usually people like her or me that end up being a victim. i may have even saved her life by making her drive, or someone elses on the road. you never know.
TerryB 02-21-2009, 06:48 PM Don't try to justify your bullshit now. Too late to change your reasoning now.
gonzorelic 02-21-2009, 06:55 PM maybe one day a drunk will hit you and we will see how reasonable you act towards him. lets say one hits your wife and kid (i hope and pray this doesnt happen buy just for sake of happenstance lets say it does) do you think you will have the level headedness to sit back and say "oh i should be fair and ask the judge to take it easy on him and give him community service and not life". no. he is a drunk behind the wheel. i did him alot of favors for an innocent sober driving my drinking friends. he hit my car and he needs to learn his lesson. if he had been a random person at walmart i would not be quite so pissed off about it because shit happens, i drive a fedex truck and i backed into a car one time, i paid to fix it and i apologized. i wasnt drunk, had i been i would have been man enough to face the concequences. so no im not trying to justify a drunk backing into my car and [:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)]g it up. so piss off.
HGFireHazard 02-21-2009, 07:06 PM This thread doesn't need to become something negative.
OP, I understand the dangers of drunk driving. I have lost more than 1 friend because of it in just the past several years. You did a great deed by finding a way for the sober passenger in the car to become the driver for their way home.
However, it isn't your place to attempt to further burden the person who hit you, especially financially, and especially now in this horrible economic situation we all find ourselves in. You said it yourself in your original post that you would have your friend inflate the estimate, and that's not right.
Get an honest quote and do the right thing. We all have things wrong with our cars or areas we would like to improve. I wouldn't mind winning the lottery so I could get a great cool turbo kit, but I'm certainly not going to exploit a situation where I have a friend that can inflate a price for me.
Work some extra hours or wait a few more months, do whatever it takes otherwise, but be honest about it.
gonzorelic 02-21-2009, 07:16 PM i will be honest about it. im not saying im goingto gouge the guy. he broke my mach headlight but i believe it can be repaired instead of replaced. that alone is going to save this guy money. the fender will definetly have to be replaced but im gonna salvage the bumper cover and repaint it. it needed repainting anyway due to sun fading. he will not pay extra for that. he messed it up worse therefore it will be fixed. he also scratched my rim pretty bad. a new wheel from summit is $125. i can have all of them painted black for $60 since i know the body shop owner. this will save him money. you guys need to really calm down. this isnt my first rodeo, just a different horse.
MisterJohnson 02-21-2009, 07:44 PM anyway i just so happened to work at a good body shop a few years back and have some good friends that are gonna write me a fat estimate so im prolly gonna get my dented hood fixed bumper repainted from the sun damage wheels painted
Getting pre-damaged parts fixed because the guy damaged them too is ok.
Getting a "fat estimate" so you can fix your hood (which appears to be unrelated to the accident) is not ok.
If you want your hood fixed too, then tell the guy you want more money for psychological trauma or something.
Don't be dishonest.
sleddog 02-21-2009, 07:53 PM so last night were leaving the club about 2am and were waiting on some friends that rode with me to find the car and out of the blue this cavalier just comes slamming into my front drivers side fender in reverse. the car pulls up and looks like he is about to bolt so i jump out of my car and run out in front of him cussing and i realize i know the boy he is from the same town as me. he realized he knows me and if he doest stop the car when he gets back to town his ass is as good as beat down. so he stops the car and opens the door and starts begging me to just go somewhere else to talk because theres like 5-6 cops walking the lot looking for drunks getting behind the wheel so i was like bullshit! i dont give a crap dude im sober as a judge and you hit me! im dead sober because i dont drink but the boy in the cavalier had been drinking and didnt want the cops involved because he was scared of goin to jail but his ass didnt need to be driving anyway so thats on him. so anyway the cops heard the crunch and walked over and got both our liscences and ins cards and also got him on tape saying he was going to pay out of pocket to fix the damage or else they would use his ins information or his girlfriends cuz thats whose car they were in. it was probobly her parents because she was all of about 19. so anyway after that i got all his info and his girlfriends info and so the cops had him on tape and his info on tape and i agreed that if his sober girlfriend drive home i would just get an estimate of the damages and he could pay for it out of pocket, if not i would go to the cops and get the tape and go after his insurance to pay. so being that i know the kid and its a small town i agreed because he knew i was about to blow my top and both of us were gonna go to jail, him for dui and me for whipping his ass. anyway i just so happened to work at a good body shop a few years back and have some good friends that are gonna write me a fat estimate so im prolly gonna get my dented hood fixed bumper repainted from the sun damage wheels painted, he broke a tab on my mach headlights that they dont make anymore so we will see if thats repairable or not because if not i feel for his wallet those arent cheap and they are hard to find. the fender needs replacing, i cant tell if the core support is bent or not, the car needed an alignment but he is gonna buy that now so we will see how it all goes. just thought id share my shitty night with everyone. oh and a fifth of red label was spilled in my backseat by the drunks i was babysitting so i gotta go out there today and try to clean that up.
Don't inflate your estimate... But next time how about springing for some paragraphs..
gonzorelic 02-21-2009, 08:07 PM Getting pre-damaged parts fixed because the guy damaged them too is ok.
Getting a "fat estimate" so you can fix your hood (which appears to be unrelated to the accident) is not ok.
If you want your hood fixed too, then tell the guy you want more money for psychological trauma or something.
Don't be dishonest.
he did bend the hood. theres a nice big ass gap between it and my fender you can stick your thumb through. the hood did however have 2 dimples in the front from where the cars previous owner had slammed it. this is common with focus'. i will be getting the hood fixed both from where he bent it and the dimples. i will also NOT be buying a new oem hood and having it painted and installed. im sure he will be grateful.
But next time how about springing for some paragraphs..
well the next time i write an essay for my highschool english teacher ill be sure to do that. seeing as how im 25 that probobly wont be any time soon. im sure thats the worst crime ever on a public forum is improper grammer. really, who cares. oh and your only supposed to use 1 period at the end of a sentence, not 2. [neener]
nepafocus03 02-22-2009, 08:04 PM if it were me and he was drunk id make him buy me new machs, so i think the op is being pretty fair. also he will be out of a car an d inconvenienced for a while. i just hate drunk drivers.
djo90 02-22-2009, 08:23 PM that sucks. I got backed into when I wasn't in my car and whoever did it drove off and now I'm stuck paying the repair bill :(
sleddog 02-22-2009, 08:27 PM well the next time i write an essay for my highschool english teacher ill be sure to do that. seeing as how im 25 that probobly wont be any time soon. im sure thats the worst crime ever on a public forum is improper grammer. really, who cares. oh and your only supposed to use 1 period at the end of a sentence, not 2. [neener]
You could have fooled me.. Your attitude is that of a high school "rebel without a clue".. How about doing the right thing??
Does your arm and shoulder hurt?? It should because of way you're patting yourself on the back for screwing this guy over.
Just remember, it all goes on the wheel..
FocusedSlayer 02-23-2009, 11:29 AM Karma's a bitch so watch out !!
gonzorelic 02-23-2009, 06:22 PM You could have fooled me.. Your attitude is that of a high school "rebel without a clue".. How about doing the right thing??
Does your arm and shoulder hurt?? It should because of way you're patting yourself on the back for screwing this guy over.
Just remember, it all goes on the wheel..
id be willing to put down a months salary that i have alot more time and experience behind the wheel than you. this "rebel without a clue" knows the ins and outs of the road and traffic laws. when a drunk hits you ill let you handle it however you think you should. i think im being pretty fair by saving him an assload of money by just fixing my $400 mach headlight instead of making him replace it, by fixing my hood instead of making him replace it, and by repairing my bumper cover instead of making him replace it. not to mention painting my wheels (which just so happened to be what i wanted to do before hand) for $60 instead of making him buy me a new one for $125 plus shipping. oh and lets not forget doing him the huge favor of not having the cops give him a breathalyzer and saving him hundreds if not thousands of dollars for a dui fine, bail, etc. oh and maybe even saving the lives of him and his girlfriend or god knows who else on the road that could have become the next victim of a drink driving fatality. id love for you to show me how im screwing this guy over... you act asthough you like to get drunk and drive and dont see the harm in it. it would have been in his best interest to NOT put himself in this position to begin with. im sorry there are idiots in this world that just absoloutly find nothing wrong with driving under the influence and potentially putting everone else on the road in danger. i however do find the harm in it, and if he doesnt like the way im handling this then maybe thats a lesson to him to NEVER DO IT AGAIN! sorry if you dissagree with the way im going about this. im the sober victim sitting in my parked car in my parking space waiting to drive my drinking friends home. thats what good people do. if you dont like it, dont come back to this thread. its that easy. good day.
oh and just to make you extra happy ill start another paragraph down here...
gonzorelic 02-23-2009, 06:24 PM Karma's a bitch so watch out !!
i agree 100%, which is why if you drive drunk it could bite you in the ass. so be a responsible drinker! [cheers]
ingqman1 02-23-2009, 06:37 PM Here is some food for thought, get two or three quotes from local body shops. Use those estimates as your guideline for charging him. I have been where you are and it certainly does suck and I feel for you, hell I had to take the guy to court and garnish his wages for 4 years. That means I had to come up with all of the money up front to fix my car and it wasn't even driveable. Good Luck!
gonzorelic 02-23-2009, 07:21 PM ^damn dude that sucks. i hope this doesnt resort to that. i may take that idea into considreration
Kauai Guy 02-23-2009, 07:43 PM I totally agree with gonzo on this. i have zero tolerance with ANY drunk driver. i had a drunk driver hit my brother in a head on collision. i honestly think the drunk driver deserved to die in that crash, and he nearly did. it was a miracle my brother only got a few scraps and a belt rash. the force of teh impact was so great my brothers camera flew out of his drivers window a good 30/40 feet from the scene. the camera was in teh backseat.
And he is indeed saving the other guy money through all of this. esp since he has shop hook ups. if he had everything replaced this could have easily been around the 2500 mark.
and i dont see how gonzo is screwing the guy over. bumper, fender, hood, and headlight is all messed up.
but i do think you should post up some pics.
Mr.Bergner 02-23-2009, 08:01 PM ^^dude what's up with that face? lol
And damn, you guys write a lot.
So anyway, I think that's cool he didn't get a dui. Like ZX360 said, what a dumb ass for wanting to drive drunk while someone sober riding shotgun.
I'd rather pay 1k extra to fix a car than pay less and get a dui, anyway, handsdown. Not sure about the rest of the world, but in Kansas (and maybe MO) DUI's never get expunged (may not be the right word). Even if you had one years before the law went into effect, they resurrect it and count it as your first.
gonzorelic 02-23-2009, 10:53 PM ill try to get some pix up. its hard because i drive a fedex ground truck and work long hours so its usually dark when i get home and the pix will look like chit.
jzizzle325 02-24-2009, 12:42 AM Getting pre-damaged parts fixed because the guy damaged them too is ok.
Getting a "fat estimate" so you can fix your hood (which appears to be unrelated to the accident) is not ok.
If you want your hood fixed too, then tell the guy you want more money for psychological trauma or something.
Don't be dishonest.
LMAO! THIS GUY!
oh and your only supposed to use 1 period at the end of a sentence, not 2. [neener]
lol... i mean "lol."
i agree 100%, which is why if you drive drunk it could bite you in the ass. so be a responsible drinker! [cheers]
LOL! GOOD POINT!
gonzorelic 02-24-2009, 07:49 PM ^haha my thoughts exactly... lmao.
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