02-02-2009, 08:30 AM
Well unfortunately I have an automatic.. So, I'm hoping to be able to do a atx to mtx swap. I've looked around on the forum and found that you can buy everything you need for just a hair over a grand. Not to bad really. My concern is, how hard is it to do this? I.E., do you have to make brackets for anything like the clutch? I'm not very mechanically inclined, however I probably poses all the tools I would need to do the job. For the people who are mechanics, how long did it take you to do the swap, if any professional mechanics that are on here have..
Any advice is much appreciated!
02-02-2009, 12:57 PM
well i don't know a lot a bout focus gut my unkle just did a atx to mtx swap in his neon it was just a strait swap just had to switch a couple mounts for the trans i don't think the focus would be much different. the only problem is that a force in the junk yard is head to come by one that is not raped
but like i said that was a dodge neon
idk if it will help but it is some thing
02-02-2009, 08:14 PM
Alright thanks. Maybe someone can say on a scale of 1 to 10 how hard it is to do. (10 being the hardest)
02-03-2009, 07:54 AM
I hope this will give you an idea of the tools and EVERY part you will need.
COMPLETE PARTS LIST
(see next post for pics)
-vehicle speed sensor and pigtail
-reverse sensor and pigtail
-shifter cable bracket
-rear mount bracket
-tripod of the upper mount
clutch pressure plate and disc
slave cylinder and throwout bearing (comes as one piece)
flywheel bolts (get new ones)
pressure plate bolts
clutch alignment tool
shifter and base and bracket from same era as trans i.e. 2000-2002.5
shift cables from same era as trans i.e. 2000-2002.5
applicable nuts and bolts
Fluid and Pedals
brake/clutch fluid reservoir from a manual transmission car
the fluid lines coming off the reservoir
clutch master cylinder
the fluid line that goes from the clutch master cylinder to the slave cylinder
clips that hold the lines into the master and slave cylinders
brake and clutch pedal box and pedal covers
clutch position sensor (there is a way to wire it without this thing)
brake fluid (it would be good to have 2 liters ready) I prefer ATE Super Blue or Typ200, or if you are cheap Valvoline SynPower
3 quarts of Motorcraft XT-M5-QS fluid
starter from a manual transmission car
crank position sensor mount from a manual transmission car
intermediate shaft bearing mount (bolted to the back of the engine)
T30 torx bit
3/8" drive torque wrench
3/8" drive ratchet
3/8" drive 3" extension
3/8" drive 6-point 10mm shallow socket
3/8" drive 6-point 13mm shallow socket
10mm combination wrench
13mm combination wrench
15mm combination wrench
17mm combination wrench
10mm ratchet wrench
6lb pellet-filled mallet with plastic head
many, many, many large surgical towels (or lint-free equivalent)
5 and 10 lb compact iron hand weights
handheld propane torch
something to light the torch
Permatex 51813 anaerobic gasket maker (you can get it on amazon for 10 bucks)
red threadlocker (Loctite 271 permanent threadlocker or equivalent)
a pretty big bench vice to hold the torsen at various times
piece of aluminum I tell you how to machine in post 32
another piece of aluminum about 2.7" in diameter not much bigger not much smaller, and yes 2.75" is too big.
set of angled feeler gauges (may also be called valve feeler gauge)
A good set of calipers accurate to 0.001"
patience. No, seriously you need it.
02-03-2009, 12:02 PM
I have everything but two or three things. But I'm not to worried about that. I just want to know how hard it would be for an average joe to tackle this job. Also an estimate in time if an average joe like me did it, and a professional mechanic.
02-03-2009, 12:52 PM
the tools in that list are just for doing the torsen
youll need a couple more on top of that for the swap
have you seen my thread? its literally EVERYTHING you need to know. give it a read sometime.
average joe, 30-40 hours
pro mechanic, 15-20 hours
02-03-2009, 01:09 PM
Yes I have. Thanks. Hm, so it would be around $800 to have my mechanic do this.. So the total cost if you're not doing it yourself is somewhere around 2,000. Phew thats a bit of money!